Hi sorry i missed your earlier post. I have a 4012 garmin multi function display and a garmin gsd 26 chirp sounder combined with an airmar 1kw 200htz transom mount tm265 chirp transducer. Performance wise i note the following, in seeing fish in the water collum, it is excellent in identifying individual fish which it displays as clear seperate arches. The blob of fish you will see on non chirp souders including furuno, is resolved into clear seperate fish detail with representative size and colour definition. This is where the unit really shines and does what is claimed. For a transom mount transducer of only 1 kw the detail in the water collum is very good at speed with the bottom lock holding on to taget visuals, both the sea floor outline and fish detail. There are no problems with aeration of picture signal due to the transom mount set up, the design by airmar is superior to the typical transom mount transducers which do suffer from aeriation bubbles disturbing screen resolution. Now for the down side, my major complaint and the weakness of the system lies with the colour palate that Garmin uses. A Furuno 295 , 1150 or even the 585 offers an 8 , 16 or 64 colur range ( palate ) that has separate colours for the specific densities of SONAR SIGNAL reflection. The wide colur palete enables a Furuno user with experience, to identify sand, coral, mud, sponge, limestone, weed etc by looking at the wide range of colours displayed on the lcd screen. GARMIN, INTERPHASE, SIMRAD, LOWRANCE and RAYMARINE all have limited colour pallettes, 8 colours would be the maximum that each offer, they rely on the thickness of the sea bed outline colour to represent bottom hardnes and dont have as wide a range of colours to identify just whats down there which for a lot of experienced operators is exactly what we want to identify. If you are looking for limestone , coral or othe small ledges off Kalbarri, Coral bay, Jurien etc, this is where discrimination is so important. It is important to note that the 1 kw transducer does not penatrate to the depths that a higer powered transducer does, i have used the 1kw down to 500 meters at which it still performs well but it wont go to the depths that a 3kw chirp transducer will. Before i get the comments of just how can you justify these conclusions, are you on drugs, just how far can bullshit be streched, may i add the following back up to my conclusions. I have verified the basis for my comments by the folowing. I have owned and operated a furuno 295 for 5 years and have used it for over 600 hours, i own and operate an underwater video drop colour camera with a topside lcd color screen which i can operate down to 250 meters and as a diver i have dived and inspected the sea floor to check on the type of bottom as displayed on the sounders down to 65 meters. I HAVE BEEN USING COLOUR echo souders for the past 25 years starting with the old cathode ray tube models up to the lcds of today. Yes i am an old fart who started with the paper models back to the 1970,s, i still have my TRUSTY OLD FURUNO AND LOWRANCE paper DIANASOURS which i keep for sentimental reasons they werent half bad. So there it is, i am keeping my Furuno 295 with 2 kw 200kh transducer for my bottom discrimination and the Garmin for fish detail, IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD ONE GO FOR THE FURUNO. Chirp technology is a evolving, hang on untill it develops further. I cant wait for furuno to release thier chirp model it will leave the rest in thier wake. It wont be cheap but it will be damm good from day1. By the way i dont work for furuno and i have not recieved any form of payment or enducement to write this material. A last word of warning technical support and repairs for garmin in Australia is very poor to say the least. They do not keep spare parts for thier current units, if its out of warranty throw it away and buy a new one because they only have refurbished units at mega dollars.
Hi sorry i missed your earlier post. I have a 4012 garmin multi function display and a garmin gsd 26 chirp sounder combined with an airmar 1kw 200htz transom mount tm265 chirp transducer. Performance wise i note the following, in seeing fish in the water collum, it is excellent in identifying individual fish which it displays as clear seperate arches. The blob of fish you will see on non chirp souders including furuno, is resolved into clear seperate fish detail with representative size and colour definition. This is where the unit really shines and does what is claimed. For a transom mount transducer of only 1 kw the detail in the water collum is very good at speed with the bottom lock holding on to taget visuals, both the sea floor outline and fish detail. There are no problems with aeration of picture signal due to the transom mount set up, the design by airmar is superior to the typical transom mount transducers which do suffer from aeriation bubbles disturbing screen resolution. Now for the down side, my major complaint and the weakness of the system lies with the colour palate that Garmin uses. A Furuno 295 , 1150 or even the 585 offers an 8 , 16 or 64 colur range ( palate ) that has separate colours for the specific densities of SONAR SIGNAL reflection. The wide colur palete enables a Furuno user with experience, to identify sand, coral, mud, sponge, limestone, weed etc by looking at the wide range of colours displayed on the lcd screen. GARMIN, INTERPHASE, SIMRAD, LOWRANCE and RAYMARINE all have limited colour pallettes, 8 colours would be the maximum that each offer, they rely on the thickness of the sea bed outline colour to represent bottom hardnes and dont have as wide a range of colours to identify just whats down there which for a lot of experienced operators is exactly what we want to identify. If you are looking for limestone , coral or othe small ledges off Kalbarri, Coral bay, Jurien etc, this is where discrimination is so important. It is important to note that the 1 kw transducer does not penatrate to the depths that a higer powered transducer does, i have used the 1kw down to 500 meters at which it still performs well but it wont go to the depths that a 3kw chirp transducer will. Before i get the comments of just how can you justify these conclusions, are you on drugs, just how far can bullshit be streched, may i add the following back up to my conclusions. I have verified the basis for my comments by the folowing. I have owned and operated a furuno 295 for 5 years and have used it for over 600 hours, i own and operate an underwater video drop colour camera with a topside lcd color screen which i can operate down to 250 meters and as a diver i have dived and inspected the sea floor to check on the type of bottom as displayed on the sounders down to 65 meters. I HAVE BEEN USING COLOUR echo souders for the past 25 years starting with the old cathode ray tube models up to the lcds of today. Yes i am an old fart who started with the paper models back to the 1970,s, i still have my TRUSTY OLD FURUNO AND LOWRANCE paper DIANASOURS which i keep for sentimental reasons they werent half bad. So there it is, i am keeping my Furuno 295 with 2 kw 200kh transducer for my bottom discrimination and the Garmin for fish detail, IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD ONE GO FOR THE FURUNO. Chirp technology is a evolving, hang on untill it develops further. I cant wait for furuno to release thier chirp model it will leave the rest in thier wake. It wont be cheap but it will be damm good from day1. By the way i dont work for furuno and i have not recieved any form of payment or enducement to write this material. A last word of warning technical support and repairs for garmin in Australia is very poor to say the least. They do not keep spare parts for thier current units, if its out of warranty throw it away and buy a new one because they only have refurbished units at mega dollars.
Septimus
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GOOD QUESTION...
That's a very good question mate!
till
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Good first question is does
Good first question is does anyone have any other garmin sounder that they like, or have found reliable.
katsy85
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I'll let you know in a few
I'll let you know in a few weeks, my new boat has a garmin 541 combo
grayzeee
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I think 1 or 2 are putting up
I think 1 or 2 are putting up reports over on ausfish. check over there!
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
katsy85
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What is a chirp sounder? Prob
What is a chirp sounder? Prob a stupid question
paula8519
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Date Joined: 09/03/10
garmin chirp sounder
Hi sorry i missed your earlier post. I have a 4012 garmin multi function display and a garmin gsd 26 chirp sounder combined with an airmar 1kw 200htz transom mount tm265 chirp transducer. Performance wise i note the following, in seeing fish in the water collum, it is excellent in identifying individual fish which it displays as clear seperate arches. The blob of fish you will see on non chirp souders including furuno, is resolved into clear seperate fish detail with representative size and colour definition. This is where the unit really shines and does what is claimed. For a transom mount transducer of only 1 kw the detail in the water collum is very good at speed with the bottom lock holding on to taget visuals, both the sea floor outline and fish detail. There are no problems with aeration of picture signal due to the transom mount set up, the design by airmar is superior to the typical transom mount transducers which do suffer from aeriation bubbles disturbing screen resolution. Now for the down side, my major complaint and the weakness of the system lies with the colour palate that Garmin uses. A Furuno 295 , 1150 or even the 585 offers an 8 , 16 or 64 colur range ( palate ) that has separate colours for the specific densities of SONAR SIGNAL reflection. The wide colur palete enables a Furuno user with experience, to identify sand, coral, mud, sponge, limestone, weed etc by looking at the wide range of colours displayed on the lcd screen. GARMIN, INTERPHASE, SIMRAD, LOWRANCE and RAYMARINE all have limited colour pallettes, 8 colours would be the maximum that each offer, they rely on the thickness of the sea bed outline colour to represent bottom hardnes and dont have as wide a range of colours to identify just whats down there which for a lot of experienced operators is exactly what we want to identify. If you are looking for limestone , coral or othe small ledges off Kalbarri, Coral bay, Jurien etc, this is where discrimination is so important. It is important to note that the 1 kw transducer does not penatrate to the depths that a higer powered transducer does, i have used the 1kw down to 500 meters at which it still performs well but it wont go to the depths that a 3kw chirp transducer will. Before i get the comments of just how can you justify these conclusions, are you on drugs, just how far can bullshit be streched, may i add the following back up to my conclusions. I have verified the basis for my comments by the folowing. I have owned and operated a furuno 295 for 5 years and have used it for over 600 hours, i own and operate an underwater video drop colour camera with a topside lcd color screen which i can operate down to 250 meters and as a diver i have dived and inspected the sea floor to check on the type of bottom as displayed on the sounders down to 65 meters. I HAVE BEEN USING COLOUR echo souders for the past 25 years starting with the old cathode ray tube models up to the lcds of today. Yes i am an old fart who started with the paper models back to the 1970,s, i still have my TRUSTY OLD FURUNO AND LOWRANCE paper DIANASOURS which i keep for sentimental reasons they werent half bad. So there it is, i am keeping my Furuno 295 with 2 kw 200kh transducer for my bottom discrimination and the Garmin for fish detail, IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD ONE GO FOR THE FURUNO. Chirp technology is a evolving, hang on untill it develops further. I cant wait for furuno to release thier chirp model it will leave the rest in thier wake. It wont be cheap but it will be damm good from day1. By the way i dont work for furuno and i have not recieved any form of payment or enducement to write this material. A last word of warning technical support and repairs for garmin in Australia is very poor to say the least. They do not keep spare parts for thier current units, if its out of warranty throw it away and buy a new one because they only have refurbished units at mega dollars.
paul a
paula8519
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garmin chirp sounder
Hi sorry i missed your earlier post. I have a 4012 garmin multi function display and a garmin gsd 26 chirp sounder combined with an airmar 1kw 200htz transom mount tm265 chirp transducer. Performance wise i note the following, in seeing fish in the water collum, it is excellent in identifying individual fish which it displays as clear seperate arches. The blob of fish you will see on non chirp souders including furuno, is resolved into clear seperate fish detail with representative size and colour definition. This is where the unit really shines and does what is claimed. For a transom mount transducer of only 1 kw the detail in the water collum is very good at speed with the bottom lock holding on to taget visuals, both the sea floor outline and fish detail. There are no problems with aeration of picture signal due to the transom mount set up, the design by airmar is superior to the typical transom mount transducers which do suffer from aeriation bubbles disturbing screen resolution. Now for the down side, my major complaint and the weakness of the system lies with the colour palate that Garmin uses. A Furuno 295 , 1150 or even the 585 offers an 8 , 16 or 64 colur range ( palate ) that has separate colours for the specific densities of SONAR SIGNAL reflection. The wide colur palete enables a Furuno user with experience, to identify sand, coral, mud, sponge, limestone, weed etc by looking at the wide range of colours displayed on the lcd screen. GARMIN, INTERPHASE, SIMRAD, LOWRANCE and RAYMARINE all have limited colour pallettes, 8 colours would be the maximum that each offer, they rely on the thickness of the sea bed outline colour to represent bottom hardnes and dont have as wide a range of colours to identify just whats down there which for a lot of experienced operators is exactly what we want to identify. If you are looking for limestone , coral or othe small ledges off Kalbarri, Coral bay, Jurien etc, this is where discrimination is so important. It is important to note that the 1 kw transducer does not penatrate to the depths that a higer powered transducer does, i have used the 1kw down to 500 meters at which it still performs well but it wont go to the depths that a 3kw chirp transducer will. Before i get the comments of just how can you justify these conclusions, are you on drugs, just how far can bullshit be streched, may i add the following back up to my conclusions. I have verified the basis for my comments by the folowing. I have owned and operated a furuno 295 for 5 years and have used it for over 600 hours, i own and operate an underwater video drop colour camera with a topside lcd color screen which i can operate down to 250 meters and as a diver i have dived and inspected the sea floor to check on the type of bottom as displayed on the sounders down to 65 meters. I HAVE BEEN USING COLOUR echo souders for the past 25 years starting with the old cathode ray tube models up to the lcds of today. Yes i am an old fart who started with the paper models back to the 1970,s, i still have my TRUSTY OLD FURUNO AND LOWRANCE paper DIANASOURS which i keep for sentimental reasons they werent half bad. So there it is, i am keeping my Furuno 295 with 2 kw 200kh transducer for my bottom discrimination and the Garmin for fish detail, IF YOU CAN ONLY AFFORD ONE GO FOR THE FURUNO. Chirp technology is a evolving, hang on untill it develops further. I cant wait for furuno to release thier chirp model it will leave the rest in thier wake. It wont be cheap but it will be damm good from day1. By the way i dont work for furuno and i have not recieved any form of payment or enducement to write this material. A last word of warning technical support and repairs for garmin in Australia is very poor to say the least. They do not keep spare parts for thier current units, if its out of warranty throw it away and buy a new one because they only have refurbished units at mega dollars.
paul a
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very interestng
cheers for the post
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wangler
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Yes, thanks for taking the time
to write it up and make things clearer, very interesting.
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