i need reel help!!!

im looking for a few pointers/tips for a deep water jigging reel. id like to get sumthing with good line capacity. 500ish of 80lb an 20kg and sum of drag. more of a DONT ARGUE sort of thing

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if you can afford it i would

Sun, 2010-12-26 12:23

if you can afford it i would recomend  a stella 8000sw with 60lb braid

dont think you need 500mtres but

not much will argue with it

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Drag

Sun, 2010-12-26 12:46

Most people can't fish 15kg of drag much less 20kg, so unless it's electric and fished out of a rod holder, probably not a big deal. I found with pe8/100lb I got too much line drag, so go for 80lb/pe6 for jigging I'm using an accurate boss bx600 and 600n, the 600 takes a full 600m of pe6/80lb and packs about 15kg of drag.

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yer a good reel. iv got most

Sun, 2010-12-26 12:46

yer a good reel. iv got most of the saltiga spinning reels. just got a z6000 an a dog fight. i wont to get a over head that i can use up to 400m

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.....

Sun, 2010-12-26 12:55

Just relised you wanted an overhead reel for your deepwater jigging....

 

 

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Overhead jigging reel.

Sun, 2010-12-26 13:05

 

THe Jigging Master Powerspell PE 8 reel will hold 500m+ of 80lb Whiplash braid and packs a punch with more than 25kg max drag.
Built narrow spooled and a power handle to crank it in.

 

Alternatively you can go to a Daiwa Tanacom Bull 1000FE power assisted reel. Meaning it'll hold plenty of line and if there's no action, you won't wear yourself out just winding jigs in all day. You can use the electric power to wind it in when you're having a drink (they do wind in upto 180m a minute!!) This reel will hold about 900m of 80lb Whiplash braid.

 

The line is just as important as the reel. The best value and one of the thinnest braid on the market is the Whiplash Braid.

 

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How "narrow" is the JM pe8?

Sun, 2010-12-26 13:53

How "narrow" is the JM pe8? In mm preferably.

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The PE8 is 38mm

Sun, 2010-12-26 14:00

The PE8 is 38mm, the PE7 is the same size reel with a 31mm wide spool and holds 100m less line for those that like them even smaller.

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That is quite narrow, the

Sun, 2010-12-26 18:45

That is quite narrow, the Accurate is about 37mm in the BX600N version (475m/PE6) v's 44mm in the BX600 (600m/PE6).

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 I wouldnt like to fish a JM

Sun, 2010-12-26 19:13

 I wouldnt like to fish a JM too deep, very very slow reels, youll be winding like a mad man!

I hear they have bumped the ratio of them up to 4.5:1 now which will be a lot better I can imagine but mine was just way too slow for me.

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Only the new model Jigging Master PE3 and PE4s

Sun, 2010-12-26 20:44

Only the new model Jigging Master PE3 and PE4s have the 4.5:1 ratio, PE5 - PE8s are still 4.0:1, I sure no when I am jigging any depths I would much rather be using a 4:0.1 ratio than a 6.0:1 ratio for the more torque/cranking power Hon-Su mentioned, you would really notice the difference after a successful day on the water.

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Each to their own but I know

Sun, 2010-12-26 19:28

Each to their own but I know Ryan who does a lot of deepwater fishing/jigging preferes a slightly lower ratio reel with more torque/crank. At the end of the day your fighting heavy fish with a bent rod so line retrieve isnt an issue.

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Shecky, you're going to have

Sun, 2010-12-26 19:41

Shecky, you're going to have to grow a few more muscles to fish big 600g jig and worse, massive sinkers people use for bait, in 200-300m.

My Accurate BX600 is 4:1, and whilst I feel that is too slow in a PE4 reel, its fine on the Accurate for deep drop.

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OJ 4000p

Sun, 2010-12-26 20:02

I'm running an Ocea Jigger 4000p with 50lb whiplash on a Blackhole 450g rod. Absolutly love this reel so grunty and super smooth.

The Whiplash is great for deep jigging as Honsu mentioned with the line diameter and reduced drag ...

 

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Daiwa Saltiga Boat Braid v's Whiplash.

Sun, 2010-12-26 20:40

I'm a bit sus on whiplash myself. Never used it, but it does break under strength in the line tests on this site. In fact, the Daiwa Saltiga Boat Braid PE4/55lb was busting at 68lb, where as the whiplash 80lb only managed 69lb and its thicker, ie; 0.418 v's 0.385 sq mm.

I've sent the guy a bunch of Daiwa Saltiga Boat braid samples and the results are on the site.

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Both myself and Ryan rate

Sun, 2010-12-26 21:34

Both myself and Ryan rate Berkley Whiplash hightly and I agree with Ryan with a comment he made a while ago....."use the gear to test it and not the other way around"....he's landed some big fish on Whiplash so......yeh!

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No ones saying whiplash isnt

Mon, 2010-12-27 16:59

No ones saying whiplash isnt a reasonable braid, but it does break under what it says it does, and its a LOT thicker than it says on the packet (but reasonably thin compared to many other braids). Its still good braid and good value. Just nice to know what you're getting (and paying for). Objective over Subjective ;)

 

As for the landing lots of big fish, I'm sure Ryans landed several fish over 100kg on 15kg line :p

 

 

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Some braids break over some

Tue, 2010-12-28 12:19

Some braids break over some under, at the end of the day we look at the "on water results" and just highlighting its a very reliable/thin/strong braid that we use ourselves. Ryans L/B GT outfit (Berkley Whiplash) did landed a 100kg shark around reef with near on lock up drag lol

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Not saying I want a 6:1 at

Sun, 2010-12-26 21:52

Not saying I want a 6:1 at all, I'm saying 4:1 is too slow, prefer 4.6 approx, that's why I got an L-50, with spool diameter in consideration. And Jamie, arm wrestle? Hahaha

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how much line are you getting

Sun, 2010-12-26 22:41

how much line are you getting on the L50? looks nice!! id like sumthing around the 4.5/5:1. id run the daiwa saltiga boat braid pe#6

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I'm running 300m of pe4

Mon, 2010-12-27 01:35

I'm running 300m of pe4 varivas big one, definitely not a pe6 reel. Check out the L-120, much more of a pe6 or 8 reel. They have a new version in Hi or Lo gearing but if you look around you can also find the old L-120 new or used.

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Did the PE4 have much room to

Mon, 2010-12-27 17:00

Did the PE4 have much room to spare?

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 Yeah I have about 80 metres

Mon, 2010-12-27 18:02

 Yeah I have about 80~ metres of 50lb Tufline behind it plus a layer of backing. Dont you have one Matt?

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Yeah, but unspooled. Thinking

Mon, 2010-12-27 18:16

Yeah, but unspooled. Thinking I should get 450-500 of PE3 on it but will see.

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how would the shimano talica

Tue, 2010-12-28 05:49

how would the shimano talica 12. with a 2 sppd be??

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Talica 12 - 2spd

Tue, 2010-12-28 14:16

This reel will be a tad small for your needs and there's no need for the 2 spd gear box.  We sold a Talica 12 single speed the other day and its completely filled with only 400yds of 80lb Whiplash. This is all he needs as he doesnt fish anymore than 100m.

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i just got the accurate boss

Tue, 2011-01-04 13:16

i just got the accurate boss 600w. thanks for the help

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Whoa the W? Thats going to

Tue, 2011-01-04 21:39

Whoa the W? Thats going to take a lot of line!

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yer i should get about 600m

Fri, 2011-01-07 22:20

yer i should get about 600m of 80lb pe#6 on it!! any pointers on a reasonable priced tough as f%$ jigging rod?

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As I mentioned before, I got

Sat, 2011-01-08 07:04

As I mentioned before, I got 600m of Daiwa Boat Braid PE6/80lb on the regular one, so you will get even more! I have plenty of it, if you need to spool that reel up.

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hahah sweet!! i got a roll

Sat, 2011-01-08 13:00

hahah sweet!! i got a roll thanks any way mate

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Deepwater Jigging rod...

Sat, 2011-01-08 13:15

There's plenty to choose from out there. Here's a couple of rods we recommend from the Jigging Master range.

Powerspell 400G, PE 4-8 and the Three Kings Special 53B-H PE5-10.

They're what we use ourselves for heavy sambo jigging and deepwater jigging for the Hapukas and Gropers.

Drop by and check them out.

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