Depends on the depth you are going to fish. If your drifting out deep, the stronger current will require heavier jigs.
A lot of my fishing up that way is done between 20-40m. Small raiders (65-85grams) and searocks have worked best for me. Big soft plastics can also produce good fish, but they are not known for their longevity.
We only tried jigging once in the 25-35m mark and found that the sea rocks worked best. It was strange thou as some colours the trev's just wouldn't hit, soon as you change it was like flicking a switch and instant hookups. I would guess you'd need really heavy ones in the deep especially if the current/tide's running at any speed.
about 20 - 40 metres are the depths.i will be fishing for anything that wants a crack.havent done alot of jigging so am curious as to what might take 1.we usually spend most time bottom bouncing the shallows around the muirons and trolling so was just wondering what fish take jigs around there
trevs, all sorts of northwest snapper, pretty much anything that eats baitfish :)
rankins, red emperor, etc etc tuna mackies
I'd use a pretty heavy leader in case mackies are around, to give you a bit of a chance. (150lb+) and use wire or swivels to attach the assist hook instead of kevlar
For reef/bottom fish, look for flutter type jigs, over sliders, and jig slow.
For more aggressive predators like trevs, sliders and a quicker retrieve would probably work best.
For mackies or tuna, its easy; crank as fast as you can while jigging until you reach the top :)
basicly start slow in the water column, pick up speed as you approach midwater, and really rip it on the way up.
Good luck.
20-40m youre looking at between 75 to 150g jigs. Maybe a few 200g for the 40s, in strong current, but that should cover it. Searocks are cheap, but there are others, I'd recommend SW Lab, Smith Metal Jack, Shout Dangan; if the fish are in a frenzy and dont care, then use raiders or gillies metals. Off the top of my head, thats it, others might add more.
You never know what will hit a jig Bibs. I have seen photos of marlin caught on them on the east coast and know a variety of good bottom species hit them over here if you put in the time. The species you mainly catch are trevally of different species and size - they are awesome fun when you feel the rod almost get pulled out of your arms but you can never rule out what might be hungry for a piece of metal. :)
we got absaloutly hammered on jigs on wednesday, busted off 200lb leader :O And got regular bite offs on owner assist hooks. we found some of the daiwa jigs and the 150g searocks worked the best. Only jigged one day but had a ball getting our asses handed to us , even with the saltiga locked up a few fish peeled off 80lb braid.
IMO searocks were the go, anything that flutters a bit would work tho, knifes/zero droppers didnt seem to have much effect
i discovered a few surprising things about jigging on may last trip north, which everybody can read about soonish in wangler, available in all good newsagents.
if you ring in the next ten minutes you may even get a free set of cheese knives.
anyhoo, jigging. in temperate waters, namely esperance, i found violent jigging close to the seafloor to be most effective for demersal fish such as queenies, red snapper, and the occasional blue groper(kletch & gull esperance mohican adventures 2003). up north, i assumed demersal fish would follow the same suit, but it was not so at all.
i found the 'sambo style' retrieve worked better. slowing the retrieve down a bit kept me in the strike zone, but strikes were forthcoming when the jig was moving rapidly away from the bottom. i had rankins hit jigs at least 20m off the bottom, so if you turn them on enough they will rise to the occasion, so to speak.
Don't be afraid to try the humble leadhead jig straight down below as well. You can even put half a mulie on it, drop it down for a demersal, if you hookup great, if not crank it to the top flatout for spaniards.
Jigging is jigging. What I'm talking about is a technique that enables you to fish for a range of species, particularly when there not really switched on to hitting artificials. Baldchin are particularly partial to this type of presentation.
It's a technique that I'm happy to have in my arsenal Matt. It's all the sweeter when the jigs I'm using were made by my own hands.
Depends, those white hairtail jigs are perfect with a big strip of occy or half a mulie just to add that extra incentive. Metal jigs, different story. I suppose thats going to be a sin in the book of Kletch.
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we got absaloutly hammered on jigs on wednesday, busted off 200lb leader :O And got regular bite offs on owner assist hooks. we found some of the daiwa jigs and the 150g searocks worked the best. Only jigged one day but had a ball getting our asses handed to us , even with the saltiga locked up a few fish peeled off 80lb braid.
where were you shizza? ;)
being busted off on 200lb leader is intense.
We were using 150lb leader out at the south murions and getting busted up big time, straight to the bottom, ting ting, another riggy. There were a few rods about to be snapped at the time, can assure you of that.
my bet out at the murions is youve been sharked especialy if your jigging close to the bottom for a while,or a big cod grabbed it and went home for a lye down
[img_assist|fid=30269|thumb=1|alt=big merv]
if ya think it mightnt be a shark next time it happens more than once .wire up and hang on ha ha ha
always in it just the depth that varies
[img_assist|fid=30281|thumb=1|alt=Cod|caption=Big Cod that came up - I was stuck on the bottom and couldnt get it off for ages, gave it to gribbo after a fair fight and finally worked it to the suface. Took a fair while to get up!]
24oz release weight and then added 6 16 ounce sinkers and he only just went down. It didn't want to come up, I was getting hounded for hooking the bottom for about 15 minutes but could feel it move every now and then. I couldn't bust it off and didn't really want to cut the line either so was stalemated for ages. I thought it was a big sand tiger like I got last year that just sat on the bottom and didn't move much, wasn't really expecting a big cod to come up. We did a team effort and finally got him to the surface, cut the wire as his teeth were like razors and no body was volunteering to stick their hand in, revived him for a while and then release weighted.
i think the 200lb got busted on the reef, wasnt me who got busted on200, it was a fellow fisher. I was using 150lb jinkai and only got busted off when a shark ate my fish and jig(small doggie didnt stand a chance)
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Small jigs
Depends on the depth you are going to fish. If your drifting out deep, the stronger current will require heavier jigs.
A lot of my fishing up that way is done between 20-40m. Small raiders (65-85grams) and searocks have worked best for me. Big soft plastics can also produce good fish, but they are not known for their longevity.
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Jigs available online in my web store!
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Agree with Big John
We only tried jigging once in the 25-35m mark and found that the sea rocks worked best. It was strange thou as some colours the trev's just wouldn't hit, soon as you change it was like flicking a switch and instant hookups. I would guess you'd need really heavy ones in the deep especially if the current/tide's running at any speed.
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Kasey L.
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i was wondering if you could
i was wondering if you could give me more info as to what depths and species you should like to fish.
bibs
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about 20 - 40 metres are the
about 20 - 40 metres are the depths.i will be fishing for anything that wants a crack.havent done alot of jigging so am curious as to what might take 1.we usually spend most time bottom bouncing the shallows around the muirons and trolling so was just wondering what fish take jigs around there
Kasey L.
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trevs, all sorts of
trevs, all sorts of northwest snapper, pretty much anything that eats baitfish :)
rankins, red emperor, etc etc tuna mackies
I'd use a pretty heavy leader in case mackies are around, to give you a bit of a chance. (150lb+) and use wire or swivels to attach the assist hook instead of kevlar
For reef/bottom fish, look for flutter type jigs, over sliders, and jig slow.
For more aggressive predators like trevs, sliders and a quicker retrieve would probably work best.
For mackies or tuna, its easy; crank as fast as you can while jigging until you reach the top :)
basicly start slow in the water column, pick up speed as you approach midwater, and really rip it on the way up.
Good luck.
20-40m youre looking at between 75 to 150g jigs. Maybe a few 200g for the 40s, in strong current, but that should cover it. Searocks are cheap, but there are others, I'd recommend SW Lab, Smith Metal Jack, Shout Dangan; if the fish are in a frenzy and dont care, then use raiders or gillies metals. Off the top of my head, thats it, others might add more.
Adam Gallash
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Could get anything
You never know what will hit a jig Bibs. I have seen photos of marlin caught on them on the east coast and know a variety of good bottom species hit them over here if you put in the time. The species you mainly catch are trevally of different species and size - they are awesome fun when you feel the rod almost get pulled out of your arms but you can never rule out what might be hungry for a piece of metal. :)
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bibs
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thanks kasey will take all
thanks kasey will take all that onboard and let you know how i go
SHizz
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we got absaloutly hammered
we got absaloutly hammered on jigs on wednesday, busted off 200lb leader :O And got regular bite offs on owner assist hooks. we found some of the daiwa jigs and the 150g searocks worked the best. Only jigged one day but had a ball getting our asses handed to us , even with the saltiga locked up a few fish peeled off 80lb braid.
IMO searocks were the go, anything that flutters a bit would work tho, knifes/zero droppers didnt seem to have much effect
Matt Kleczkowski
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jigs of love
i love jigging.
i discovered a few surprising things about jigging on may last trip north, which everybody can read about soonish in wangler, available in all good newsagents.
if you ring in the next ten minutes you may even get a free set of cheese knives.
anyhoo, jigging. in temperate waters, namely esperance, i found violent jigging close to the seafloor to be most effective for demersal fish such as queenies, red snapper, and the occasional blue groper(kletch & gull esperance mohican adventures 2003). up north, i assumed demersal fish would follow the same suit, but it was not so at all.
i found the 'sambo style' retrieve worked better. slowing the retrieve down a bit kept me in the strike zone, but strikes were forthcoming when the jig was moving rapidly away from the bottom. i had rankins hit jigs at least 20m off the bottom, so if you turn them on enough they will rise to the occasion, so to speak.
more on that later
anyone else have some retrieve option gold?
big john
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White leadhead
Don't be afraid to try the humble leadhead jig straight down below as well. You can even put half a mulie on it, drop it down for a demersal, if you hookup great, if not crank it to the top flatout for spaniards.
WA based manufacturer and supplier of premium leadhead jigs, fligs, bucktail jigs, 'bulletproof' soft plastic jig heads and XOS bullet jig heads.
Jigs available online in my web store!
Matt Kleczkowski
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lacing a jig with bait is
lacing a jig with bait is CHEATING!
you have just opened a big can of worms big john....
big john
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Big Baldies love em.
Jigging is jigging. What I'm talking about is a technique that enables you to fish for a range of species, particularly when there not really switched on to hitting artificials. Baldchin are particularly partial to this type of presentation.
It's a technique that I'm happy to have in my arsenal Matt. It's all the sweeter when the jigs I'm using were made by my own hands.
WA based manufacturer and supplier of premium leadhead jigs, fligs, bucktail jigs, 'bulletproof' soft plastic jig heads and XOS bullet jig heads.
Jigs available online in my web store!
Adam Gallash
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Cheating
Depends, those white hairtail jigs are perfect with a big strip of occy or half a mulie just to add that extra incentive. Metal jigs, different story. I suppose thats going to be a sin in the book of Kletch.
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Kasey L.
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quote: we got absaloutly
quote:
we got absaloutly hammered on jigs on wednesday, busted off 200lb leader :O And got regular bite offs on owner assist hooks. we found some of the daiwa jigs and the 150g searocks worked the best. Only jigged one day but had a ball getting our asses handed to us , even with the saltiga locked up a few fish peeled off 80lb braid.
where were you shizza? ;)
being busted off on 200lb leader is intense.
Matt Kleczkowski
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how do you bust off 200lb
how do you bust off 200lb leader?
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Cinche
Recon he "cinched" up his knot too tight .
HA HA
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Matt Kleczkowski
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well cinched mav
ha ha, of course he overcinched the knot.
lets start a cinch revolution on this site and annoy gallash
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I dunno
We were using 150lb leader out at the south murions and getting busted up big time, straight to the bottom, ting ting, another riggy. There were a few rods about to be snapped at the time, can assure you of that.
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mitch
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huh
my bet out at the murions is youve been sharked especialy if your jigging close to the bottom for a while,or a big cod grabbed it and went home for a lye down
[img_assist|fid=30269|thumb=1|alt=big merv]
if ya think it mightnt be a shark next time it happens more than once .wire up and hang on ha ha ha
always in it just the depth that varies
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On the money
Think you're on the money there Mitch.
[img_assist|fid=30281|thumb=1|alt=Cod|caption=Big Cod that came up - I was stuck on the bottom and couldnt get it off for ages, gave it to gribbo after a fair fight and finally worked it to the suface. Took a fair while to get up!]
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davo
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How did u revive that one
How did u revive that one adam.?
Just sounds like it didnt want to come up.
Adam Gallash
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Release weight
24oz release weight and then added 6 16 ounce sinkers and he only just went down. It didn't want to come up, I was getting hounded for hooking the bottom for about 15 minutes but could feel it move every now and then. I couldn't bust it off and didn't really want to cut the line either so was stalemated for ages. I thought it was a big sand tiger like I got last year that just sat on the bottom and didn't move much, wasn't really expecting a big cod to come up. We did a team effort and finally got him to the surface, cut the wire as his teeth were like razors and no body was volunteering to stick their hand in, revived him for a while and then release weighted.
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Wat
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i think the 200lb got busted
i think the 200lb got busted on the reef, wasnt me who got busted on200, it was a fellow fisher. I was using 150lb jinkai and only got busted off when a shark ate my fish and jig(small doggie didnt stand a chance)