Landbased respect ? do you practise it?

Ok I not starting a bitch and whine post , but due to a recient event that happened to me , I need a some

faith restored in landbased fishos, ( and maybe a hug)

Scene , bowes river mouth , just south of horrocks, weather , rain!

We set up ( rods out , car awning out , chairs out etc etc) around lunchtime in the pouring rain, not a sole in sight, at a gutter ( approx 50 metres wide) near the mouth,

after checking a couple of others in the area ( as you do)

Fished off and on for about 3 hours ,( quite a bit of side drift , but managable) just really killing time before the ( hopefully ) tailor run late afternoon.( sun finally appears)

Anyhow , a dude appears, and he and two others set up at the end of the gutter, and start fishing.

Bit rude I thought , but oh well, just far enough away, to work. Then 10 minutes later 2 more appear and go between me and them, just great, but it gets worse

No bul...t within 30 minutes , in a 50 metre wide gutter there was 10 people fishing, and quite frankly I lost it. They all were in 4wd,s except one , and I was staggered by the pure

disrespect of it all .I pride myself on always giving others a very , very wide berth on the beach, Im taking going to the next gutter or the next, If possible out of sight, so

this just hit me like a ton of bricks .I tangled up almost straight away with some bloke , and for the first time in years , told this bloke to f,,,,,,k off.

Now maybe Im a fossil ( at age 48?) but is this the new reality with population growth  or should we all be respecting a mans right to have a quiet beach fish with his family

and drive off to find your own gutter. Quite frankly , none , and I mean none of these blokes thought they were doing anything wrong , so Im now questioning my own

beliefs.Things like jetty fishing and the like , fair enough, but on a deserted beach , kms long with lots of gutters?

We packed up, and headed home and saved baits and rigs for another day, the bitter taste of disrespect and stupidity still hard to swallow.

thoughts?

 

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 Happens all too often. I'm

Sat, 2014-04-26 22:11

 Happens all too often. I'm same as you, I like my space & if someone is already fishing an area I move on, it's just good manners. People only think of themselves these days & couldn't care less if they stuff up someone else's trip. I usually tell them politely that they are too close & should move on. If I get the response that its a free country or they just ignore the friendly advice they get an offer to have their gear thrown in he water & their teeth knocked out. 

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Sucks, similar happened to me

Sat, 2014-04-26 22:12

Sucks, similar happened to me out on the water yesterday. Hooked up to a good fish casting at a reef, over comes sir f@#kwit with Mrs and kids trolling and politely advised him that I was hooked up so give me room, and he acknowledged. Obviously my rod facing where the fish was, this douche then cuts in front of where I was fighting the fish against my verbal and visual advise and subsequently hooked my line and I lost a good fish. Yelled at them to cut their line and they did and wisely took off. Scored an xrap (cheers d!#khead) but likewise to you quad, where's the respect but more so where's the brains, no one has any these days, evolution of society, f@#kwits everywhere!

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 Agree quadfisher.  Would've

Sat, 2014-04-26 22:15

 Agree quadfisher.  Would've reacted the same, if not worse lol! Metro i leave at least 30m between myself and others fishing, and if someone tangles my line i cut their's and " advise " them it's not a good idea to be fishing so close to someone. . . 

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Two Rods

Sat, 2014-04-26 22:25

I usually fish with 2 rods, if someone casts over one I make sure its nicely tangled up then put that rod in the rod holder and start fishing with the other one.

Once a mate and I were on a deserted beach in the middle of the night when a bloke on a three wheeler comes down the hill and along the beach towards us, doing the right thing, we buried our fish so they couldn't be seen and this bloke promptly parks his bike on top of them and has a chat for 20 minutes before heading off down the beach. He's a member on this site and knows South Conto very well don't you Bruce. Can still laugh about it even after many years.

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Sun, 2014-04-27 08:42

too many clowns around the place now days

may they should have a shore fishing licence where you have to pass a fishing etiquette test first

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same

Sun, 2014-04-27 09:08

 dont worry mate. Holiday time all respect commonsense and brain function go out the window. Same happened up at frustrations during xmas hols. Was up there at the hole with 4 of us then a leach rocked up on a quad bike with 3 ppl then went back for another load. 9 ppl now fishing. Then 4 guys rock up and just jump straight in between us. Then 2 more rock up and I lost my shit. Stood on the rock looked at them all and stuck both fingers up in salute and told em all to F OFF!! little did they know the hole is only 15m wide and we were in it but it shows you how useless and minimal brain function goes on with ppl! 

So dont worry quadfisher your not alone mate! These ppl are sheep n you are a leader! Stand your ground nin the end you just get the knife out and start cutting lines!

Unfort bowes gets like that and is same everywhere!

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'get a knife out and....'

Sun, 2014-04-27 10:19

'get a knife out and....' Lol, thought you were goin somewhere else with that

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 Dont question your beleifs

Sun, 2014-04-27 11:02

 Dont question your beleifs mate, you are in the right...they were just lazy sods. Bit harder in the metro area but I will always give people plenty of room, if they have a good spot then I'll just keep moving and find somewhere else. Amazing that people think its cool to setup so close to you and they wonder why you get aggro when their line tangles with yours.

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Thats not crowded

Sun, 2014-04-27 14:51

this is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUpKPARyL2M

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haha

Sun, 2014-04-27 17:57

Thats it , thats bowes river mouth last friday, right there on tape , Im the one with the scissors

you must have had a hidden camera wangler, although must be a bad camera angle , as I remember

the interlopers being alot closer, oh well you got to laugh, Most of them on the day looked like the chuck it in, and chance it

brigade , so I guess we all will have alot more brilliant fishing days ( by ourselves hopefully) than those smucks will have in a lifetime.

cheers boys , I am mainly over it now , thanks to the kind words and humour.

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I think they throw him

Sun, 2014-04-27 18:54

off the jetty in the full length movie

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Ha Ha

Wed, 2014-04-30 19:14

 Thats my favorite video clip of how not to fish, lol. Every time a thread like this pops up i remember that clip and laugh . 

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mate nothing worse.....there

Sun, 2014-04-27 17:39

mate nothing worse.....there is miles apon miles of beach out there, so annoying

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by far the most annoying and

Sun, 2014-04-27 18:48

by far the most annoying and disrespectful thing when beach fishing. I hate hooking or landing any decent fish if I see anyone coming past the area we are fishing, I sometimes pretend that im hooked onto a pile of weed. Even when its just dad and myself we have about 10m between us and then u get those tossers who come and stand in between u, when all ur gear is there and knock ur stuff around.

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Heavy surf rod + reel + 50lb

Tue, 2014-04-29 16:31

Heavy surf rod + reel + 50lb mono, cast across every possible rod/line in sight.  Reel in, cut all lines, WIN.

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 Was down at Myalup on the

Tue, 2014-04-29 17:15

 Was down at Myalup on the weekend and there was a decent amount of respect shown by guys there. Minimum of 50m gap between each person/group. And they went as far as the eye could see. Pity the only fish being caught were herring

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Kayak

Tue, 2014-04-29 18:02

 Got sick of land based fishing..... due to overcrowding..

saving for a kayak atm.

 

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I think what peeved

Wed, 2014-04-30 07:39

me off the most beach fishing. I  setup chair near the water, 4x4 backed up so people can pass between me and the 4x4 (hard sand,) castout and I sit fishing then next damn minute a 4x4 drives between me and the water, hello you f.....kwit you have my line.   You can image what old fart said hahah

or you sitting fishing and nobody for miles, next minute 4 4x4's come through doing 60klms a hr, hello that is so dangerous to drive at that speed on the beach.  Old fart and I used to sit and watch them drive up the beach, thinking any minute you are going to go nose down. and unfortunately maybe roll

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Very similar experience

Wed, 2014-04-30 08:13

Very similar experience Quad

But revenge was sweat.

Was fishing as a fairly young student at Witacarra for Tailor. Had time to waste so went early by myself. Found the "best" spot I thought. Spot nicely set up with holders etc.

Soon a 4B arrived with 2 old sods, one fished on my left, the other on my right, and everytime I rebaited they crowded in on my little turf. A few more "nomads" arrive and soon there was about 10 off them. I barely had a 5m patch to myself and then when I had to cast I basically pushed in to reclaim a little water.

Wasnt going to give up to these rude a*holes so persisted.

Everyone caught a few tailor but then I hooked something very decent. It was obvious that it was not a small tailor and that I might need some space but still they didnt give way or pull lines out to clear some water.

Proceeded to land my "still" PB Tailor at 98cm. Beautiful greenback. I had enough for a feed already so carefully treasured the monster. One of the dudes realised I was reviving the fish for release and asked if he could have it.

He was told in no uncertain terms where to go and then I watched the tailor swim off.

Not the end though, God gave me Karma after that and whilst they caught the odd tailor I got on to a very hot streak and must have landed about 10 greenbacks in a row, releasing all but 2 with a very smug look on my face.

Paybacks a B*tch!!!!

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Living like ants?

Thu, 2014-05-01 01:27

 Good to hear someone had a win , when You get dissed on a beach like that , I always hope and pray

you meet the ba....ds on the way out bogged , now that would be karma.

 

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Happens everwhere

Fri, 2014-05-02 18:46

 I tend to fish off rockwalls more than beach but have suffered the same fate. When I can I get down early to mark my spot before others and get a berley trail running. Even had the cheek a few weeks back with a couple of fellas set up two rocks from me (about 3m away) and say to me "great you have already got berley in" then proceed to fish on top of me in my trail. Unfortunately with the number of hot head young blokes these days I tend to keep my mouth shut rather than have them smash my head on the rocks because somebody dared tell then to f**k off...

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 Lol you should see the north

Fri, 2014-05-02 19:09

 Lol you should see the north mole on a full moon. Only get 2m if space and a lot of tangles

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 I can understand this

Thu, 2014-05-15 20:03

 I can understand this happening on jetties, rock walls/platforms, and beaches without 4wd access. Tangles drive everyone crazy and causes road I mean fishing rage. Respect is a quality in short supply. You should never have this problem on a beach with 4wd access ever.

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Rise above

Fri, 2014-05-16 13:12

 

yeah , i look back on that day , and still think i was dreaming, but the great and postive thing that always comes

out after a lose of faith in humanity, is the great guys here  , and some corker people Ive met at the north mole just in the last few weeks.

I am a positive person by nature , and by lifes ups and downs testing me in the past ( long story) 

so fish on! brothers ( and sisters), hopefully in a uncrowded gutter!

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