New Trophy 22' Boat

YEEEEEEEWWWW

Got a new boat today a Bayliner Trophy 22' Walk Around for a steal

150hp Merc Saltwater Series !!!!!!!!

SOOOOOOO Excited

 

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Boat Source - Look him up on

Sun, 2011-11-13 06:18

Boat Source - Look him up on the usual boat sales website.....

I am awaiting my delivery..

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Just read the rules

Fri, 2011-11-11 23:48

Its not rocket science. You have a link to the towing rules. Get a tape measure, measure the boat and trailer at max width. Fare bet it will be over 2000 kg so you need electric brakes. Look up the LEGAL towing weight of your tow vehicle. Lots of vehicles will tow it, but the law and insurance companies look at what is legal.

The only difficult bit is if you have somethiong like a Prado that will be about on the legal limit, and then you will have to visit a weigh bridge to find out what the real weight of the loaded trailer is.

You have the info to work this out, just get on with it, and then go use the thing.

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I said its over 2 tone, i

Sat, 2011-11-12 07:52

I said its over 2 tone, i looked at the legal towing weight of the vehicle- its 2500kg WITH BRAKES (no specific form of them) we insured it so the insurance has no problem with the boat, trailer, motor, WEIGHT or Tow Vehicle. The hull is 1550kg, motor 250kg, trailer probably 450-550 because its aliminimum= 2300kg-2400kg with about 50L fuel and whatever gear. We wouldn't totally fill up the tank, probably only 100L

Hamo said he has the same boat which was 2.48m wide i think? plus about 4cm would be about 2.52m for the trailer.

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I don't know wether to laugh

Sat, 2011-11-12 13:05

I don't know wether to laugh or cry, the Fred Flinstone method of braking will not work!!

"I said its over 2 tone, i looked at the legal towing weight of the vehicle- its 2500kg WITH BRAKES (no specific form of them) we insured it so the insurance has no problem with the boat, trailer, motor, WEIGHT or Tow Vehicle"

That's braked towing capacity mate ie. meaning your trailer needs it's own braking system, each vehicle has braked & unbraked towing capacity so pony up the dough & get the trailer fitted with electronic brakes if you are towing with the Prado.

 

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Does anyone here have a

Sat, 2011-11-12 16:46

Does anyone here have a Mercury Salt Water series engine? I ran it 5 times today and only a dribble of water came out of the 'squirter' thing. I rang the mechanic and he said they have a Thermo heat level, so when it hits a certain temperature, then the water starts coming out.

Either that or the water pump is failing. I went on youtube and the water pretty much started to come out immediately...

Have the mechanic coming out anyway to check over it before we use it- better to be safe than sorry

Also gives me another week to fix up and organise the boat.

So anyone got a Salt Water series? Interested to know

Ben

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I am assuming the outboard

Sat, 2011-11-12 17:13

I am assuming the outboard went ok during sea trial? I am also assuming you used water muffs to run the engine & they were connected properly with good water pressure? How long did you run it for & did the overheating alarm go apeshit??

There is another way to flush your OB with the connection near the telltale & exhaust it has a square head on it which can be easily unscrewed with the socket set. Attach one of those threaded hose connections (don't thread it when you screw it in) get the garden hose cranking & turn the motor over.

 

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Na na the mechanic had a look

Sat, 2011-11-12 17:39

Na na the mechanic had a look at it before we bought it and said it was fine. No overheating alarm. Muffs were connected properly. Highest water pressure possible. Ran it for about 20 seconds then turned it off because i didn't want to overheat it.

Is there some delay because its a long shaft outboard?

I'm/Dads not a such a grate handy man so don't really want to start pulling things apart :(

Thanks

Mechanic should just do it up and clean it up. I don't really think theyre is anything wrong with it, im just being cautions. First 'big' 2 stroke motor so still getting warmed up to it.

Cheers

Ben

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Ok lots of Q & A's here so I

Sat, 2011-11-12 17:50

Ok lots of Q & A's here so I will drop you a PM

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heres the thing with muffs on

Sat, 2011-11-12 22:26

heres the thing with muffs on an outboard which a fair few people dont realize.

Even if you took the impellor out and threw it away, with a good set of muffs water will still flow thru-cos its under pressure.

Other thing is what your "mechanic" said-that water wont come out of the tell tale til the thermostat opens-Ive never come across an outboard that is set up in this way and strongly suggest if this is what he told you, that you get a real outboard mechanic ASAP.

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Yea good point. We've got a

Sun, 2011-11-13 07:14

Yea good point. We've got a different mechanic coming on tuesday morning so we are there to see what he does.

We've used this company http://www.oceanlifemarine.com.au/Servicing.html

Cheers Ben

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I had a 25hp mercury that was

Sun, 2011-11-13 07:34

I had a 25hp mercury that was set up this way. Tiny dribble until the thermost opened. Mechanic told me this was the case and i didnt believe, but he was right. CCC

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i had the same motor as CCC

Sun, 2011-11-13 08:54

i had the same motor as CCC and yep, only maybe after 1min on idle did it open up then it closed off to a dribble. i'd get the ears on it again mate and run it, it'll go nuts at you if it's getting too warm.

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well now I learnt something!

Sun, 2011-11-13 13:16

well now I learnt something! just googled it and checked.

Seems a bit odd though that it would open within a minute or so at idle-most engines would take alot longer to get anywhere near operating temp? And if it takes a minute or so to get to working temp then it wouldnt be far til cooking temp Id think.

Maybe one reason why Merc arent as popular as they could be!

 

Some of our smaller Yammies 2st at work take maybe 30 seconds to get flow there when the impellors are on the way out though.

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I'm no fan of this, to me the

Sun, 2011-11-13 13:37

I'm no fan of this, to me the telltale should work all the time, only time it should stop is when you have no waterflow ie: stuffed water pump, blocked pickups

CCC

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you could also try the good old

Sun, 2011-11-13 05:48

 80 pound mono trace line into the as you say"squirter thing a me bob" you may find it just has a bit of crap in it.

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now theres an ideaExcept if

Sun, 2011-11-13 07:16

now theres an idea

Except if there was crap in the piss hole wouldn't i then push it further up and clog it even more?

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It will normally just be a bit of salt ect

Sun, 2011-11-13 08:49

 i have never had it clog more YET.

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this man speaks sense How did

Sat, 2011-11-12 08:15

this man (bellony) speaks sense

How did this thread get bogged down on how wide/big it might be when it started about SRF's marvelous new rig!

Tape and weighbridge if its to be done properly-simple.

Forget what anyone else has said about size/weight coz its irrelevant.

Insurance and Transport inspectors AKA "MERMAIDS" wont care about any of that. This will be found most likely AFTER a mishap whether your fault or not.

You will find that insurance will only cover if "operated in accordance with applicable legislation and rules". They dont come out and inspect it until AFTER the accident.

 

Good luck with the rig-put up some pics of it getting its first run, especially if its choppy!

 

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i have only posted so the

Sun, 2011-11-13 05:30

i have only posted so the thead hits 100 Replies amazing all about trailer specs lol!!

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hahaha

Sun, 2011-11-13 07:16

hahaha

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Umm, just reading your

Sun, 2011-11-13 08:15

Umm, just reading your comments to Lamby it appears you spent $35k on a boat with no sea trial ????

"the mechanic had a look at it before we bought it and said it was fine."

 

Would be interested to find out how he tested it under load, across all revs - all for long enough to give the OK for you guys to drop that sort of coin on a boat with a 9-10 year old donk ;)

 

A compression test and short run at idle with no load certainly ain't a comprehensive "test"

 

Good comment from Smash about the muffs too - poor fitting muffs will really starve it of water, whereas a good fitting pair will provide all the pressure you need, sending water right through the engine without it running.

If in doubt, stick the leg in a drum full of water ....

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Well we had to act fast

Sun, 2011-11-13 08:44

Well we had to act fast because he had 50 calls within 8 hours of posting it up.

Theres actually nothing wrong with starting the motor, we're just inexperienced-ish. We bought the biggest muffs we could find with water injection from both sides, water was going through the motor and coming out everywhere apart from the piss hole.

We have a big drum that is definetly big enough and can try.

But if the water pump is dead, what damage could running the motor with out water do to it?

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How many of the 50 were legit

Sun, 2011-11-13 13:07

How many of the 50 were legit buyers, not paypal scammers?

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mmm

Sun, 2011-11-13 13:28

"because he had 50 calls within 8 hours of posting it up."

I can recall using a similar line in my younger days though I didnt dare try using a double digit figure

 

Poor old SRF-hes copping it from all sides!

Youve bought it now mate (at least Dad has) so no going back-plenty of good advice here, some of it wouldve been handy before the purchase.

  • get a real outboard mechanic (perth guys here will recommend one) to trial it
  • throw a tape over its beam
  • weigh it with a known quantity of fuel in
  • If you want to be legal do the brakes (and maybe a permit). Overides are NOT legal with 2.5 tonne.
  • if you arent interested in doing it legal then not much point in debating it with forum!

by the way what is the hull model number?

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I think you have covered all

Sun, 2011-11-13 15:18

I think you have covered all the points pretty well. But I will reinforce one point.

If you have no water out of the teltale, check the reason before running it any longer. I may be a simple as a blocked teltale that can be unblocked with a bit of wire..... or someting more sinister. temperature sensors often require some water in the engine to transmit heat to them. If this is the case you can cook your engine before an alarm is raised.

 

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I've read over previous

Sun, 2011-11-13 19:49

I've read over previous forums and rang up about a few numbers but no-one answered or the phone was off. We rang on sunday so thats probably why. Ended up getting someone else

How do i measure the beam at its widest because the cabins in the way? If i measure it ontop of the cabin i could call it wrong and that could be the difference between legal and illegal?

Any weight bridges around perth apart from the tips?

Thanks

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Drop a plumb bob down to the

Sun, 2011-11-13 19:56

Drop a plumb bob down to the ground at beam max...mark the ground and measure between the marks.

 

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Must have been typing at the

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:00

Must have been typing at the same time.....

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Possibly run a plum bob off

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:00

Possibly run a plumb bob off each gunnel so they hang just off the ground and measure the distance between them.

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Good idea ill mark it with

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:10

Good idea ill mark it with chalk

Will report back before school

 

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there is a public weigh

Mon, 2011-11-14 09:35

bridge on howson way in spearwood

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good questionHis phone rang

Sun, 2011-11-13 19:45

good question

His phone rang about 7 times about his boat in the time that we were there

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Oldest Trick in the Book ..........

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:13

You have to step back and take a deep breath in any situation like that.

 

That sort of stuff happens all the time, cars, boats, houses .......... it's the oldest trick in the book.

They just get mates etc to start calling to make buyers rush their decision.

 

I helped a mate out with a car about 18mths ago, and went along to help him check it out

(he had no idea what to look for).

Arrived to find the owner was a bit slimy looking, and within 5 minutes of us arriving, his phone started ringing

- and he stayed close so we could hear the conversations.

All calls sounded the same and really rehearsed to me.

4 Calls later, he came back saying "wow, heaps of people interested hey - another guy's coming over soon"   blah, blah, blah.  

 

I saw he had an iphone, so asked if I could use it to google some details about the car.

Bought up his call history, and all 4 last calls were from the same number - obviously a mate.

 

Told him he was full of shit and lucky I didn't stick his phone down his throat .

Sheepishly he tried to deny, and backed away.

 

Needless to say, we didn't buy the car ..........

 

Realistically, any authentic buyer was going to demand a sea trial of a boat like that, so you just had to book the first run.

Even if the calls WERE authentic, most were probably tyre-kickers.

Put down a deposit, take your time and take all steps to make the best decision.

 

But hopefully for you, this IS the good deal it appears to be... 

 

Just don't rush the next one

 

 

 

 

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Haha dumb prickI sure hope it

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:13

Haha dumb prick

I sure hope it is the real deal

I have to remember to breathe somethimes

Good tip will take into consideration in the future

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No worries mate

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:14

No worries mate

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A few people have said it now

Sun, 2011-11-13 09:56

A few people have said it now & I have let you know in PM mate, the Mercury is going to start screaming with an alarm at the slightest raise in temp so no you will not damage it. Grab the drum pop it under the skeg & fill it right up, just have to let go of that new boat fear, bigger engine & cooking it etc, get the old man start up the let the OB do it's work yeah whilst you both watch & listen??

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Its scary!!!!!Na i start the

Sun, 2011-11-13 19:53

Its scary!!!!!

Na i start the motor and dad observes and signals to me to turn it off or whatever. With our previous 4 strokes we encountered no problems so didn't have anything to fix or know about.

So you rekon just run it for a while until a signal goes off and if it doesn't the outboards fine?

We've never run it for more than 20 seconds apart from starting it up at the previous owners house, and i can't remember if water was coming out of the piss hole or not :(

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Mate i've got to say all the

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:12

Mate i've got to say all the advice you are getting is good but just get a good marine mechanic to look at it. You will kick your self and cost yourself a heap of money should it go wrong. Get a full service done why your there making sure the impeelor (water pump) is replaced.
Not sure where you live but pm if you want a good place to get it checked.
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Cool thanksWhich one do you

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:17

Cool thanks

Which one do you use- or do you know any mobile mechanics around Shelley/Rossmoyne in Perth?

One guy quoted $50 travel fee and about $550 for labour and checking/ replacing water pumps, spark plugs, unless it is something major that needs to be fixed.

Getting a full service done so we start from a clean slate

Ben

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Ok Ben here is my last piece

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:18

Ok Ben here is my last piece of advice on the OB flushing -

1) Open up 2 cans of harden the phuck up, one each for you and the old boy immediately take a few slurps

2) Put it on the muffs with good water pressure or into the water drum... quickly take a few more swigs!

3) Turn the engine over step to side of the OB & talk about something boring ie. the weather 

So now you will end up with two options:

a) Whilst shooting the breeze all of a sudden the tell tale squirts water, you & Dad do high fives, double thumbs up etc.

b) The Merc squeals beeps etc, you turn it off & no love is lost, then come back to FW & either try the multitude of options the members above have given you to look at or just call a 'proper' marine mechanic & get the pump replaced

 

     

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Harden the Phuck Up

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:36

is currently on special at most shops get a few extra cans just in case...

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Thats gold.take lambys advise

Sun, 2011-11-13 20:43

Thats gold.take lambys advise mate .alarms will scream if its cactus

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thermostats/ exhaust

Sun, 2011-11-13 21:22

follow lambys advice and give it a decent chance to flow. if you get an alarm call a pro.

even with the thermostats shut the water pump should still be pumping water up through the leg unit and back exiting through the exhaust ports and prop, with the two thermos shut it should only be causing the flow to bypass the powerhead. always best to run it in a tank but with muffs you'll be able to see if water is exiting via the exhaust indicating your pump is working. If you have water exiting out your exhaust and your thermostats are in good nick and open you won't overheat your engine, if still no telltale (AKA pisshole) you've probably got a blockage in the pipe.

Not familiar with mercs but the telltale serves no purpose in the cooling system and is just an outflow pipe that indicates to the operator that the motor is pumping water, seems strange and pretty uncommon that it would be running from the powerhead but may be the case

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Yeh once i've turned the

Mon, 2011-11-14 07:51

Yeh once i've turned the motor off water still comes through the props and holes just above them.

Both mechanics i've rang said it could be a blockage

I never knew that the tell tale is just like an indicator, good to know

Thanks

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teltale

Mon, 2011-11-14 09:14

indicator but for a good reason, not at all saying just to disregard if its not flowing though, if your out there or running your motor and it's not flowing you need to find out why.

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 yeh man. that would be

Sun, 2011-11-13 22:06

 yeh man. that would be awesome if you could

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I'm pretty sure its these

Mon, 2011-11-14 08:00

I'm pretty sure its these guys

http://www.boatlocator.com.au/cgi-bin/listing.cgi?id=14595

 

phone number and email down the bottom

Send them an email first just incase its wrong

Look on boatsonline.com.au for boats located in Mt Pleasant Perth for $40k-$50k and you should find them on there aswell

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or the motor explodes and we

Mon, 2011-11-14 07:46

or the motor explodes and we all die? sounds good

ill plug the hose into the place you said next to the piss hole i found it today

wheres the local 'harden the phuck up' shop, i havent seen one before haha

Tuesday will tell all i will let you know whats going on

Thankyou for all your advice

I'll re read all the advice about electric brakes and stuff

 

Beam of boat was 2.5m

Trailer only 2.15m between the wheels. looked like the widest point

Ben

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saltwater merc

Mon, 2011-11-14 08:28

 I had one and the hose that the telltale runs off only gets water when the thermostats open. I have pulled mine apart to check and that is how it is. I drill a small 2 mm hole in each thermostat to give me a telltale at start as it pissed me off waiting at the ramp on a cold day idling just to see if the water pump was working.

I had much more problems with the oil injection system and fuel pump on the old merc. I did however have to pull the PCV that diverts water arround the block a few times as it salt up and sticks open. That would set off the high temp alarms at low revs too.

Here's a tip for you. If you are going along at high revs and aproaching your spot. Start to slow down gradually before you get there. The oil pump injects into a fuel premix chamber. The higher the revs the more it injects. So if your going along at full throttle and slam it back to idle the next few minutes of fuel are over oiled. 

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Thanks for the tip would

Mon, 2011-11-14 09:50

Thanks for the tip would never have guessed.

So there might not be a problem with the motor we just havent given the thermostats a chance to let rip

definetly will remember that

Cheers Ben

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Ben, thats what about 10 guys

Mon, 2011-11-14 10:20

Ben, thats what about 10 guys on here are trying to tell you mate, i'm sure it's fine. take the old man out there after a few beers and give it a rip and listen to that merc sing. Also if you want a good marine mechanic (mobile too) that i use (ex karratha guys who comes back since he was so popular) is the Marine Doctor, he has a website and is a bloody top bloke that won't bullshit you around, his rates i don't know but a phone call fixes all that.

http://www.marinedoctor.com.au/index_files/Contact.htm

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Cool thanks im now sure

Mon, 2011-11-14 10:38

Cool thanks im now sure theres nothing wrong just being cautions

Ill check the website out thanks

Ben

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marine doctor ,

Mon, 2011-11-14 12:37

still charges pilbara prices in perth ,way to expensive

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Water Pressure Gauge

Mon, 2011-11-14 11:51

Sort of Off-Topic, but :

 

After you've got this sorted, I highly recommend fitting a Water Pressure Gauge too - huge peace-of-mind.

 

No waiting for a telltale if a thermostat is delaying the flow.

It gives an instant check that the pump is supplying pressure.

 

I can remember running cautiously through Geographe Bay with the old Johnzuki 115 between Busselton & the HMAS Swan wreck - when there was a lot of weed around.

 

Apart from stopping periodically to do the diligent visual checks and clearing, the alarmed gauge gave re-assurance without having to rubber-neck and squint

every 10 secs to check the tell-tale.

Even with a partial blockage, a telltale will still usually squirt - and it's hard to gauge any strength at speed.
(And that's assuming you can even SEE it from the helm)

The pressure gauge lets you glance down and see any small changes in pressure.

 

It's not just weed either - eg. a major blockage like a plastic bag will kill the water intake instantly - and it doesn't take long for an engine to cook at cruising speed.

Even if you're glancing at the telltale every 30 secs it could already be well into overheat territory.

 

I'd rather have a pressure alarm go off BEFORE it got hot, rather than waiting for a temp alarm.

 

I've got all digital gauges, and Water Pressure is one of the gauges I have on every screen.

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A water pressure gauge.I'll

Mon, 2011-11-14 12:00

A water pressure gauge.

I'll ask the mechanic about it and see if he can install one.

Thanks for the tip

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Ben for the love of god will you put the muffs on

Mon, 2011-11-14 16:09

 run it for a few minutes and push a piece of mono ( NOT WIRE ) up the telltale (piss hole) and be done with the bullshit.

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amen to that

Mon, 2011-11-14 16:18

perhaps they should have earnt a few more stripes on a smaller boat before stepping up?

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More worried about the fact that they will be out on the

Mon, 2011-11-14 16:22

 water and have little to no idea if it all turns to s@!t . Do us all a huge favour Ben take baby steps.Dont plan an offshore trip to kalbarri any time soon

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id love to but thats not the

Mon, 2011-11-14 19:27

id love to but thats not the plan just yet

We became a member with Fremantle Rescue incase it falls to bits

We are very cautious and will probably go in the river first

 

Getting mechanic over tomorrow morning to service it. By all means its not a shit motor its never konked it.

Just asume the motors fine

No more comments please i seem to be annoying you with my notices which is not the plan

Thanks for the positive feed back and good advice everyone its good to refer back to in the future- its now a bookmark on my computer :P

Ben

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Mate you are not annoying me

Tue, 2011-11-15 05:21

 you need to learn somehow.You have been given advice from folks that have been around boats for years,you have been given advice from folks that have your engine,you have been given advice from people that own your same style boat.Now all you have to do is act on it.My advice is not to be to confident straight off the bat.Also dont be to cautious as that can be just as bad.The river mouth at Kalbarri and the swan river in the middle of a sailing regatta is no place to be either.You seem switched on enough and you are starting earlier than most so you will get there.Good luck with it.

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its finding the right

Tue, 2011-11-15 07:17

its finding the right ballance hey,

I always go on my dinghy in the river most weekends (I have my skippers ticket dont worry) when the sailing is on around the South of Perth Yacht Club and its pretty frustrating.

Thanks for the constructive feedback

Mechanic is over now and rekons the motors in tip-top condition

We've also patched up some small chips around the boat to make it look better.

Thanks Allrounder

Ben

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perhaps upgrade to a 4

Mon, 2011-11-14 19:18

perhaps upgrade to a 4 stroke?

we know about boats and stuff, just not a genius on motors

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nice thread very funny to read

Mon, 2011-11-14 18:04

noha is on the money with the poppet valve or pressure relief in lamens terms will take a minute or two for your tell tale to read correctly, also depending on what suburb you live and your water pressure you can also get any outboard to the point of overheat after a short time on muffs drop it in down the ramp on the trailer run it for a while and you will quickly find out if it overheats, pressure relief seals can also swell on a motor that isnt flushed properly causing bugger all tell tale

goodluck

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local ramp is 5 minutes away

Mon, 2011-11-14 19:20

local ramp is 5 minutes away but every weekend is packed with boats, and cannot do it on week day as dad has work

Thank you silly

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Mechanic found a broken

Tue, 2011-11-15 11:48

Mechanic found a broken plastic rectangle object that turns the prop when the boat accelerates.

He said it would be 50 bucks to replace

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A plastic object that turns

Tue, 2011-11-15 13:12

A plastic object that turns the prop ?? - surely not - would hate to think that there are plastic drive-train components in there !

...... maybe he's talking about a removable rubber hub ? (which would look rectangular from the side)

Unless you've got confused and it's the trim tab just above the prop, under the anti cav plate ? (which compensates for prop torque).

Not sure about the Mercs, most Tabs used to be anodic alloy, but I think most have changed to plastic now -  they're hardly 'rectangular' though.

 

I'm not second guessing / stirring or anything - just interested in how it all pans out for you

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Ok cool when i get home ill

Tue, 2011-11-15 12:50

Ok cool when i get home ill see the invoice he left us and see how the motor runs tonight

Also there were little orange pieces, pobably 1m x1m found in the fuel line and injectors? He said that if they reached the cabi's he would have to clean them out.

Ill let you know the cost too!

Ben

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 good buy mate, loved my

Tue, 2011-11-15 12:58

 good buy mate,

 

loved my Trophy that I had, same as yours, but with a V6 inboard, and in hindsight I woyld have been better off with an outboard if I'd had the choice again.

Only reason I sold mine was the cabin was too small for three to sleep in and my son would not sleep on the deck 

 

Great boats, very very sea worthy and well laid out for use.

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Yay! thanks for the

Tue, 2011-11-15 13:25

Yay! thanks for the comment

Cabin is atleast 6' so its big enough for me and dad

how are you finding your new boat?

Ben

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 the Berty is work in

Tue, 2011-11-15 15:50

 the Berty is work in progress and is more being set up for long stays at Rotto and family fishing runs, but she will have a few good bashes at blood on the decks soon.

Will do an upgrade picture and post to my thread soon again, as a lot has changed in the last few months 

 

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looking forward to some more

Tue, 2011-11-15 21:01

looking forward to some more pics!

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Keyway

Tue, 2011-11-15 14:48

was it the keyway for the water pump impellor mabey ?

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maybe he found it when he

Tue, 2011-11-15 15:04

maybe he found it when he took off the bottom half of the leg and prop

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You sure it's a real boat and

Tue, 2011-11-15 15:10

You sure it's a real boat and not just a plastic model ???? Hehe


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$700 later....oh well it had

Tue, 2011-11-15 15:28

$700 later....oh well it had to be done so its all good for another year... hopefully

Guy was really nice and gave me the parts he needed to replace

 

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....... now for the trailer !

Tue, 2011-11-15 15:51

....... now for the trailer !

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now for a smack across the

Tue, 2011-11-15 16:33

now for a smack across the face!

Should i post up the invoice and damaged parts?

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No, just stop fucking around

Tue, 2011-11-15 17:21

No, just stop fucking around and go and get your new boat wet !!!  

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Tue, 2011-11-15 21:02

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Toughen up Princess !   

Tue, 2011-11-15 21:10

Toughen up Princess !

 

 

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so its like that eh? haha

Tue, 2011-11-15 21:12

so its like that eh? haha

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I shake my head, FTR, boating

Tue, 2011-11-15 16:50

I shake my head, FTR, boating ain't this hard!!

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i know!mechanic said the

Tue, 2011-11-15 17:02

i know!

mechanic said the motor was a gem ran perfect on our new muffs

he said go in the river first to try it out like cruising, WOT, trolling and stuff

cant wait

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update

Tue, 2011-11-15 18:05

i would love to know what the problem was? have thought about what your mechanic has replaced and cant for the life of me think of anything orange on any outboard that sounds like what you have described, interested on what the fix was

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When is it getting

Tue, 2011-11-15 18:29

When is it getting wet?????????

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Just go and catch some fish

Tue, 2011-11-15 18:30

Just go and catch some fish FFS!!!

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Lol

Tue, 2011-11-15 18:51

 This thread will never die. Always someone willing to breathe life into it. Tipping 250 plus replies myself.

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na 250 is a lot and i don't

Tue, 2011-11-15 21:06

na 250 is a lot and i don't want heaps of comments

i have the knowledge and advice now so no this thread should be done and dusted

i think everyone is getting tired of it

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 Hehe - It's a great thread -

Tue, 2011-11-15 21:21

 

Hehe - nahhh, It's a great thread.

 We'd be hard strapped to find another thread that can :

 

* Show off a nice new rig

* Make you Laugh

* Make you Cry

* Make you worry

* Make you slap your forehead

* Make you punch your computer

* and Make you think "Thank F#ck" !

 

......... all in the one (long) read !

 

And he's been a humble good sport all the way through........ onya Swanny.

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haha thanks dizzy

Wed, 2011-11-16 07:32

haha thanks dizzy