Pro Cray Fisherman

Last year I had high regard for them this year it is all out the window why would you put pots on top of mine and tangle our ropes makes no sense

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I have never seen so many

Wed, 2019-11-27 09:18

I have never seen so many pro's out of Mindarie and starting late in the day, usually they are on the water working away before we even get to our pots at 5ish.
Can't say i have had any interaction with them as they seem to be further out.

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 There's arseholes in every

Wed, 2019-11-27 10:06

 There's arseholes in every industry.

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 Pros have been good out of

Wed, 2019-11-27 13:10

 Pros have been good out of Mindarie. We are in same area, we just stay a little clear when they are pulling their pots, it's their job, our pleasure so we have a bit more time.... Plus, just means I am late to work

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Must be crap pros

Wed, 2019-11-27 21:35

Market atm is in jumbos . According to price table

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Pros are alright

Thu, 2019-11-28 12:25

....my son is one and he's OK :-)

He tells me they are moving out deeper next week

I have amatuer pots right on top of me too, so I tend to not get worked up about it

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Pro will get his haha

Sun, 2019-12-01 21:15

today he was seen cutting rec pots for no reason just because of a twisted line around his pots for potting too close I would say to the aluminium boat operating out on the five you have been videoed and sent to fisheries why would you be such a dick head hope you loose your boat not your ocean

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 What's the boat name? The

Sun, 2019-12-01 23:57

 What's the boat name? The local pros down our way are pretty good if you ask me.. it's the blow ins we get from lano, etc over winter that can be a drama 

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 what colour are his floats? 

Mon, 2019-12-02 10:51

 what colour are his floats?

 

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Have found the pros down Mandurah

Mon, 2019-12-02 01:05

To be very friendly and helpful this activity is (hopefully) from some one from outside the circle of locals.

If you have the name of the boat and you have it on film name the boat and be done with it, I'm over this nice touchy feely politically correct crap if you act like a swine then be named as a swine

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 Yep, Mandurah pros no

Mon, 2019-12-02 13:54

 Yep, Mandurah pros no dramas. If you've got facts, spill them

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Everyone has different opinions

Mon, 2019-12-02 21:18

On pros. Worked with few locals. My opinion only. They don’t give a fuck anymore .Doesn’t matter if your in area before them or not. The originals ( pros ) where good. New generation are dicks. Take rope cutters of them . ( there not safety thing . There a weapon)They will improve. Me and my deckie other day seen them full speed ( no change in direction). Mow down fair few. Never seen this pro before. Dumb thing is more amateur pots than there’s. How would they like there floats gone. There costs will go up big time, goes both ways.

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Thats very sad to hear

Mon, 2019-12-02 22:54

Like I said before I found them to be an alright bunch, sounds very much like a new greedy group has moved into the area what a bloody shame.

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had my pots in the same place for 3 weeks

Tue, 2019-12-03 07:11

no body else around got bombed by a pro on Saturday morning ,he drop a pot within 3meters of everyone of my pots ,checked them this morning 2 pots been propped thanks very much

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 I feel your pain, had a pro

Tue, 2019-12-03 08:53

 I feel your pain, had a pro cut four of my pots in one day. Managed to get them all back ( floating rope) but now with the stupid weighted rope rule you will lose them or need a diver to recover them. Right pain in the ass. 

 

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Pretty hard to prop a

Tue, 2019-12-03 09:26

Pretty hard to prop a vertical rope 

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 Not hard at all. They dive

Tue, 2019-12-03 09:49

 Not hard at all. They dive over the float rig and both your floats get smashed to bits. Buy buy rope

 

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 They don't have to be

Tue, 2019-12-03 09:49

 They don't have to be vertical just shortened if less than 20m of rope.

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 Yep. What seakem said. I

Tue, 2019-12-03 20:12

 Yep. What seakem said. I just coil and cable tie my slack. I did that before the rules and regs came in

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they were weighted ropes

Tue, 2019-12-03 12:44

 2 floats 1 m a part 1 float missing and a pile of twisted rope.not hard to prop them if you run straight over both floats

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What goes around

Tue, 2019-12-03 13:08

Comes around in my books. I moved mine once pro hit area. No respect of others gear. They do not give a flying fuck. I call a spade a spade . It happens every day. Why don’t fisheries ( in plain white centre console) police it. Must be allowed to cut gear off maybe. Make cutters ( of shore illegal) when fishing in close to reef no problems ( safety issue). Then I bet $1000 bucks they would respect others gear.

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 Yeh I have my pots out on

Tue, 2019-12-03 16:49

 Yeh I have my pots out on the five and held up some great ground not alot of activity on it . 2 days soak i came back bombarded with pro pots 1 of my pots is gone and 2 of my pots have been pulled/ moved. To say im fuming is an understatement !!!! And go figure Aluminium Cray Boat ! 

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 Hey mate we the same coming

Tue, 2019-12-03 21:00

 Hey mate we the same coming upto our floats and then the pros drove straight over our gear lucky they didnt cut the floats 

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There not all the same

Tue, 2019-12-03 18:35

There is still a few crackers out there still. The local rocko ones mint.

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What I am reading here is alarming

Tue, 2019-12-03 22:13

From what I am reading it appears to me that quite a few amateur potters are experiencing interference with there pots from people they believe to be professional cray fishermen.

Some time back a suggestion was floated that there should be a boundary in place to put a stop to the allegations of pros robbing destroying amateur pots. With the introduction of quotes I was under the belief that just about all of the problems of destruction of pots etcetera had been massively reduced, that doesn't appear to be happening for some reason this year.

My be the idea of having an exclusion zone for armatures only needs to be viewed again with a limit of so many nautical miles from shore being for the exclusive use by armature potters.

A complex and feisty issue for sure but just maybe it needs to be looked at by fisheries.

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Your not really serious are you?

Wed, 2019-12-04 15:35

The white run is a resource for all of us to enjoy....including professionals. On my sons boat they catch half their quota in close, through November/December.

I have never experienced the wilful damage that is being suggested here, but I’m sure there are some bad apples.

My sons boat have now moved out to 40 metres, so I’m sure whatever issues people think is happening is short lived

 

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Quote some are brilliant

Wed, 2019-12-04 18:47

Agree not all the same. Been there done that. But when fisheries hanging xmas cards on armatures pots . They could widen there vision. Some do not care at all. Full speed pot to pot . Truth . Best thing keep away and move.

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people are people

Wed, 2019-12-04 19:19

 regardless of what industry you are in. You can't define a person by saying that they are a pro fisherman, or a farmer, or a panel beater, or a metal fabricator, or whatever. As some of you would know, I had 26 years behind the wheel of a crayboat--and before you say they are all different now, I wouldn't believe that one bit. I knew fishermen who would not deviate off course if it meant that they were going to cut off someones balloon , when they were ballooning off Wagoe or Steep Point. But the majority  would, if they saw them in time. Some would not deviate to miss amateur pots, the majority would. As for rope cutters, if you have ever wound up one of your own pots 30 miles offshore in a howling easterly, so that the engine was stalled, and you had to go over the side to try to hack it off, holding your breath, with 15 tonne of boat trying to crush your skull....well, you would understand why you fit rope cutters. Not the mention the safety aspect when it happens in close, dodging swell. 

As to having them drop pots on top of you-well, you don't own that edge, and you can't reserve it. Pro fishermen know that having pots close by  certainly reduces your catch per pot. So they'll only do it if they think it will pay. I certainly did my share of untangling amateur pots from my own gear, PITA. They were, and still are, so thick in some places up here that you just leave it until you were sure that they were really going to go off for a few days, and then hit it. Whereas the amateurs had just sat there for a month. Then the amateurs would whinge