Recreational catches from 2005/6 boat survey
Recreational catches from 2005/6 boat survey
Some info from Fisheries Research Report 177 "A 12-month survey of recreational boat-based fishing between Augusta and Kalbarri on the West Coast of Western Australia during 2005-06" http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/frr/frr177/index.php?0706
Page 22 Table 3. Estimated total recreational retained catch by weight for major species caught in West Coast Bioregion.
Western Australian dhufish.......186 tonnes
Combined whiting spp..............46 tonnes
Pink snapper......................40 tonnes
Australian herring................40 tonnes
Skipjack trevally.................34 tonnes
Baldchin groper...................28 tonnes
Samson fish.......................24 tonnes
King George whiting...............19 tonnes
Breaksea cod......................16 tonnes
Australian salmon.................17 tonnes
Queen snapper.....................10 tonnes
Snook..............................9 tonnes
Narrow-barred Spanish mackerel.....7 tonnes
Sweetlip emperor...................6 tonnes
Redfish............................5 tonnes
Sea sweep..........................3 tonnes
Tailor.............................3 tonnes
Sergeant baker.....................3 tonnes
Flathead, general..................3 tonnes
Coral trout........................2 tonnes
Western foxfish....................2 tonnes
Oriental bonito....................2 tonnes
Garfish, general...................2 tonnes
Silver bream.......................1 tonne
Banded sweep.......................1 tonne
Western butterfish.................1 tonne
Page 23. Table 4. Estimated total catch (tonnes) for the main recreational species retained for each zone within WEST Coast.
Midwest Zone.....................tonnes
WA Dhufish........................71
Whiting (Mixture of 4 species) ..4
Pink Snapper......................10
Australian Herring.................3
Skipjack Trevally..................3
Baldchin Groper...................19
Samson Fish.......................3.8
King George Whiting...............0.04
Breaksea Cod.......................2
Australian Salmon............ .....0
Metro Zone .....................tonnes
WA Dhufish.......................58
Whiting (Mixture of 4 species)...36
Pink Snapper.....................13
Australian Herring...............32
Skipjack Trevally................23
Baldchin Groper...................8
Samson Fish.....................13.1
King George Whiting.............14.4
Breaksea Cod.....................9.9
Australian Salmon................12
Southern Zone (not South Coast)...tonnes
WA Dhufish.........................55
Whiting (Mixture of 4 species)......6
Pink Snapper.......................15
Australian Herring..................5
Skipjack Trevally...................8
Baldchin Groper...................0.1
Samson Fish.........................7
King George Whiting...............4.7
Breaksea Cod......................4.2
Australian Salmon.................4.7
Kalbarri Zone...................tonnes
WA Dhufish........................2
Pink Snapper......................2
Baldchin Groper...................1
Breaksea Cod.....................0.2
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Recreational catches from 2005/6 boat survey
Combined extracts from Appendices F and G, pages 33-36 of Fisheries Research Report 177 "A 12-month survey of recreational boat-based fishing between Augusta and Kalbarri on the West Coast of Western Australia during 2005-06" http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/frr/frr177/index.php?0706
Estimated numbers of fish kept, released and calculation of percentage released, with weights added.
When these two appendices are combined and sorted, shows some missing numbers in the kept and released tables. .
Species................Estimated kept...Estimated released..%age....Weight
Combined whiting spp............404,376......62,305........13.4%...46 tonnes
Herring, Australian.............288,392......38,299........11.7%...40 tonnes
Squids, general.................83,791........1,746.........2.0%
Trevally, Skipjack/Silver.......73,693.......37,017........33.4%...34 tonnes
Whiting, King George............48,362........9,002........15.7%...19 tonnes
Dhufish, Western Australian.....35,222.......16,766........32.2%..186 tonnes
Wrasse/Gropers, general.........30,736......143,367........82.3%
Garfish, general................22,161........2,252.........9.2%....2 tonnes
Cod, Breaksea (Black-arse Cod)..18,008........9,900........35.5%...16 tonnes
Snapper, Pink...................17,808.......13,693........43.5%...40 tonnes
Groper, Baldchin.................9,933........1,963........16.5%...28 tonnes
Seapikes/Barracuda/Snook, general..8,711......1,546........15.1%....9 tonnes
Emperor, Sweetlip (Red Throat)...7,513........7,063........48.5%....6 tonnes
Butterfish, Western..............5,900..........277........4.5%
Flatheads, general...............5,882.......48,928........89.3%....3 tonnes
Scad, Yellowtail.................5,251........5,877........52.8%
Tailor...........................4,826........3,586........42.6%....3 tonnes
Trumpeters/Grunters , General....4,313.......45,816........91.4%
Snapper, Queen (Blue Morwong)....4,252..........842........16.5%...10 tonnes
Samson Fish/Sea Kingfish.........4,117........8,429........67.2%...24 tonnes
Blowfish, Common.................4,052.......96,027........96.0%
Sergeant Baker...................3,997........6,407........61.6%....3 tonnes
Salmon, Australian...............3,891........6,583........62.9%...17 tonnes
Redfish..........................3,875..........656........14.5%....5 tonnes
Cuttlefish.......................3,803..........590........13.4%
Leatherjackets, general..........3,324.......10,758........76.4%
Mackerel, Blue...................2,788........1,707........38.0%
Sweep, Sea.......................2,774........1,827........39.7%....3 tonnes
Foxfish, Western.................2,434..........936........27.8%....2 tonnes
Shark, general...................2,321........3,765........61.9%
Bonitos, general.................2,033..........785........27.9%....2 tonnes
Harlequin Fish...................1,989..........327........14.1%
Bream, Silver (Tarwhine).........1,732........3,497........66.9%....1 tonne
Goatfish, general................1,706........4,638........73.1%
Sweep, Banded....................1,697........1,206........41.5%....1 tonne
Flounders, general...............1,106..........384........25.8%
Dart, Common.......................818 ???
Mackerel, Narrow-Barred Spanish....812.........???..................7 tonnes
Pike, Long-finned..................808
Trout, Coral.......................804..........855........51.5%....2 tonnes
Octopus, general...................679
Tuna, Southern Bluefin.............612.........???
Gurnard Perch......................527.........5,276.......90.9%
Wirrah, Western....................489
Sweetlips, Gold-Spotted............469
Sweetlips, Painted.................436
Wobbegongs/Catsharks, general......392..........563........59.0%
Parrotfish, General................385........1,675........81.3%
Emperor, Blue-Lined (Black Snapper).368.........543........59.6%
Scorpion cod, Western Red..........340........3,493........91.1%
Trevallies, general................323..........226........41.2%
Groper, Western Blue...............282..........661........70.1%
Emperor, Spangled..................279..........316........53.1%
Cod, Estuary/Slimy Cod.............278..........775........73.6%
Kingfish, Yellowtail...............268..........276........50.7%
Mulloway...........................260..........???
Mackerel, Scaly....................243
Gurnards, general..................188.........2,390.......92.7%
Pilchard (Mullie)..................176
Morwong, Dusky.....................161
Dolphinfish, Common/Mahi Mahi......159..........???
Cods - General.....................149.........1,106........88.1%
Scorpionfishes, general............145...........796........84.6%
Tuna, Yellowfin....................113..........???
Eels, General......................107...........460........81.1%
Threadfin-Breams/ Butterfishes/
Monocle Breams.....................103
Rays, general......................???..........5,810
Butterfish, Western.............................5,298....................1 tonne
Blowfish, Northwest
(Silver Toadfish)...............................2,358
Rays, Shovelnose, General..........???......... 1,169
Sweep, Footballer...............................1,087
Blue Devil, Western...............................924
Knife Jaw.........................................325
Whiting, Blue Weed................................324
Cod, Chinaman.....................................287
Old Wife..........................................265
Footballer/Stripey................................241
Pigfishes, general................................218
Moonlighter.......................................217
Cow Fish, Shaw's..................................210
Buffalo Bream, Common (Silver Drummer) ...........209
Other Species (n = 72/71 species)..2,910........6,494.........69.1%
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I would love to see the
I would love to see the calculation formula and the raw data.
There is more than one way to arrive at a expolated number from a bunch of random stats.
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Yeah Noha
Picked up on that too! I want to give that PDF a darn good read before I comment further!
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Yep, estimated and
Yep, estimated and extrapolated from a 12-month survey of boat-based recreational fishing in the West Coast Bioregion (Augusta to Kalbarri) of Western Australia was conducted at boat ramps between 1st July 2005 and 30th June 2006.
During the survey a total of 15,999 boat crews were interviewed, of which 13,185 (82%) had been undertaking some form of fishing activity and, of these, 10,382 (or 79%) of fishing boat crews had been ocean line fishing.
The total annual recreational boatbased fishing effort for the West Coast Bioregion was estimated to be 1,557,000 fisher hours , which is a 15.5% increase in nominal fishing effort (i.e. this does not include increased efficiencies generated by technological improvements) compared to a similar survey conducted on the West Coast Bioregion in 1996/97.
Read the paper for more details about how they collected and analysed the data.
Like it or not, agree with the figures or not, agree with the analysis and interpretation or not, this data is the best available.
Does anyone think they have any BETTER DATA they'd like to put up which has come from surveys of as many people actually out boat fishing???
And if you don't like anything about this, think about what you can do about it.
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DoF Resources Terry
Well, I know DoF are advertising for people - I'll be putting my hand in! So will be endeavouring to do something about that!
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Western Australian dhufish.......186 tonnes
This is nearly 5 times the Pink Snapper take? It seems odd that the Dhufish extraction is extra ordinarily high considering recreationals target or would keep Pink Snapper as a Category 1 fish as much as a Dhufish?
If the Pink Snapper capture rate is so much lower, maybe West Australians should be looking at Pink Snapper as a much higher risk species than West Australian Dhufish?
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Not bashing the pro's
Any chance of finding out what the pro's catch was? just to compare.
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During the survey a total of
During the survey a total of 15,999 boat crews were interviewed, of which 13,185 (82%) had been undertaking some form of fishing activity and, of these, 10,382 (or 79%) of fishing boat crews had been ocean line fishing.
While this survey was being undertaken only one person was encountered at Hilaries a high recreational boating yet Two Rocks there was encountered on 5 occasions survey personel.
Could it be that Survey personel targeted boat ramps with a much higher recreational deep sea fishing participation rate in the survey?
I mean Two Rocks has a very low recreational leisure boating activity rate?
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Dont think thats the answer
Dont think thats the answer how about halving the pro's catch I mean half the fish in perth isn't caught in that bio region or even the wa state as a whole. And are those figures correct I mean 4052 Blowfish kept come on officer
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Crayfishermen
I knew a few cray boat opperators (no region given) that would after the last pot go SMASH alot of fish on board(ESTIMATED TONS)!!!! Couldn't they have waited for 10 years after this was stopped before doing any HMM HMM survey before screwing with a great Australian past time and hobby of the general public!!! BLOODY POLLIES!!!!!!! Mind you the rec tally would have been higher due to the amount of fish LEFT in the ocean!! Does anybody know if JON owns a fish store!
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Yeah, someone was keeping 4%
Yeah, someone was keeping 4% of the blowies...probably had problems with the neighbour's dog...and I find it hard to believe that nearly 3 times more salmon were caught in the metro area than the southern zone? Oh, hang on, that was that really good year for salmon....in which case, I'd have thought more than 12 tonnes?
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Recreational catches from 2005/6 boat survey
There's LOTS of info in the State of Fisheries Report http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/sof/index.php about the commercial catch. Such a pity that so much of the info only covers catches up to 2005/6 with just the odd snippet of later info.
Fisheries Research Report 177 http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/docs/frr/frr177/index.php?0706 It really is worth a read to answer some of the questions and comments raised here.
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Dhu fish take 186,000kg, say
Dhu fish take 186,000kg, say the average size Dhui would be 10kg that would be roughly 18,600 Dhui's per year which is roughly 360 Dhui's per week??? Do you think that would be about right??
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Kreel surveys vs Tags
Read through that article - I'm no boffin head but no slough either - pretty heavy mathematically going - so many percentages of percentages or estimates. Out of respect for those involved, a good effort, for my money though, I'd still like to see a tag system. BUT, then it comes back to the inevitable issues of resources.
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VAGABOND
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Would be interesting to know
Would be interesting to know the amount of boat ramps on the west coast? It's just a rough average, would be intresting to know if the fisheries do know what the average size fish would be caught?? Then we would have a better idea of how many fish?
Going by what I've seen caught by people and what comes in at fishing comps the average would have to be around the 10kg mark give or take a kilo?
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Average 715 Dhui's per week.
Average 715 Dhui's per week. HMMM
TerryF
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Recreational catches from 2005/6 boat survey
Even though the questionnaire (page 27) has a question about the species targeted, it's a great pity that there's not more data in this report such as:-
What people were fishing for and what they caught, and how many people surveyed actually had their bag limits of the various species, etc. That data would give some real info on the effect of reducing bag limits, selective bans on species, etc.
Think about this....
Dhufish caught: West Coast total 35,222 Weight 186 tonnes = average 5.28kg
At that average weight, the 58 tonnes of Metro number of Dhufish = about 11,000 fish = about 210 per week.
Target is to cut that Dhufish catch by 50%, so about 5,500 Dhufish can be caught in Metro each year in future.
If there were no closed seasons, that would average only about 105 Dhufish can be caught in Metro per week at that same average weight of 5.28 kg.
With a 3 month closed season, that increases to 141 per week during the 39 week open period.
With a 4 month closed season, that increases to 162 per week during the 34 week open period.
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What happens when
1: person works 6 days a week
2: weather on that 1 day off is crap (like most of the time on the weekend)
3: missus says you have to spend time with your family
4: Ah we'll leave it at that
So can you get your calculator and tell me how many kilos of fish I will catch in a year!! Terry "I DON'T THINK SO"
I think some people are playing with more than a calculator!!!!! And there playing with MY HOBBY(stress relief)(family feeds).
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