retards and stingrays (some unpleasant language)
On Saturday my son and I went to the estuary at Miami/ Dawesville to chuck a U turn in the ute.....
We noticed a group of people watching some guys mucking around with something on the waters edge. We decided this may be worthy of some further investigation so we cruised over to see what was going on.........Well.........
Some fucktard had been fishing with a 8 or 10 ish hook wire trace on those knee deep flats. You know the ones where stingrays always hang out!!!!!!!!......
Im pretty sure he must have sight cast to it or the blowies would have torn his bait to shreds quickly
Reckoned he was after Makos (leave you to put in your own swear words) So anyhow he's got this poor bloody stingray on it's back out of the water...I volunteer that it may be best to cut his line and release the poor thing to which he replies that someone has gone to got some pliers (No pliers with him! ) and that they can survive for 15 mins out of the water so she'll be right......Eventually the pliers arrive and this chap saves his hook and wire then he gaffs the ray in the wing again to the groans of onlooks and flips it over and with help from some samaritans he get it into it into 6" of water where It just does'nt even move an inch........Im assuming it was DEAD..........I left at that point because if i stayed i reckon i might have seen how long he could hold his breath for......
Maybe iv'e been spoilt with a reasonable fishing life.....but I cannot understand why people want to hook or stuff around with stingrays and shovelnose sharks. I think they should be put on the protected species list.
Em801
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Well said fella seen the
Well said fella seen the same sort of treatment
down Tims thicket made me want to drown the bastards
A life not fished is a life not lived
fisharoo
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I reckon there's nothing
I reckon there's nothing wrong with catching stingrays, maybe it's the issue of after care and how it's caught. Although now I try and avoid the bloody things as much as I can, I still remember getting dropped off by my parents 25 years ago to woodmans point to get a good battle with the stingrays and cousins.
Well I hope this dude is a young lad......if not, I'll fully agree with you with him being a total tool.
robby4675
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Nothing short of abusing a
Nothing short of abusing a creature! Some people have no idea, and if caught should be dealt with harshly! It's not hard like u said, just cut the hook off which wouldn't bother the poor thing at all.
It's idiots like that who have destroyed fish stocks all over the country, makes my blood boil.
born to fish, forced to work
meglodon
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plus 1
couldn't agree more
Ben85
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I saw a few blokes catch a
I saw a few blokes catch a large shovel nose shark down at hillarys on the weekend. they cut its tail and head off and bled it, so I assume they were keeping it for a feed. Are they classed as an eating class species?
grantarctic1
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I have
I have kept a few small Shovel nose . ( when i was younger ) The are not bad to eat . These days i don't keep them at all and i have never killed a stingray. IMO I would rather catch a few Herring or Tailor for a feed .
In saying that , if a fisho catches a ray or shovel nose, then uses it to feed the family i can't realy complain, altho don't like to see it .
cuthbad
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I see your point about catch
I see your point about catch care and agree 100%. However, I don't see any reason they should be protected. No reason you cant catch and release in the same way as any other species I reckon. Easy to get your hook back as well no need to cut the line in most cases.
Versus
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More bad PR for fishos
More bad PR for fishos
paulsmez
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Rays
I thought I read/saw somewhere that just flipping a ray over could kill it. Something about putting pressure on organs not used to any.
Best just to cut the line in shallow water if you ask me. Slip a long rod rest tube over the tail to prevent a sting while you're doing it.
cuthbad
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If people choose to do that
If people choose to do that fine, but its easy enough to get them on shore, remove hooks and get it back without gaffing, flipping it over or any of that stuff. I think sherbs or someone posted a "how to" last year some time. I reckon removing the hooks is always a good move where possible and safe. Easy grip in the mouth to move em around, tail wont reach the mouth, no problems....
If not confident though, then sure cut the line