Salting Surf Rod Spin or overhead?

 I Have owned and used a Saltiga Ballistic surf Rod for some time now,

However I have since put it aside due to the high mount of the reel seat and find myself reaching for my every reliable SU450 with low mount. Looking into the specs of the ballistic surf it says it can be used with spin or overhead, has anybody used it as an overhead if so would the long but section make it quite difficult to cast overhead? I was also thinking that if it were ok for an overhead reel that it may be a good stick for ballooining off the beach?


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Can't you just cut the bottom off below the reel seat?

Tue, 2016-02-16 19:32

 A rod builder would be able to sort that out, just not sure of the cost.




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Just go buy an Alvey

Tue, 2016-02-16 19:54

you got the low mount. Only worry you will have is can you still fish in fifty years? Because that's about the half life of an Alvey.   

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 Ive already been down the

Tue, 2016-02-16 20:27

 Ive already been down the track of trying to adjust the rod, I had a mate put a 30 stripper guide on it which is mint and cut the reel seet off and remounted it lower down the but section. However the rod snapped at the reel seat  so I had to get a new butt section anyway downt want to go back down that track if possible, I can deal with the high mount if its only setting a ballloon out and winching dirty great big spanish in. I have an Alvey set up already with an SU aswell just wanting to put an aplication to the Saltiga rod that is gathering dust.

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Long butt no problem, that's

Tue, 2016-02-16 20:32

Long butt no problem, that's what you want for an overhead casting rod anyway. The question is are there enough guides to stop the line rubbing the blank when the rod is fully loaded up? Go put a reel on it, tie the line off, fully load up the rod & see if the line touches the blank anywhere. If not your good to go with an overhead reel, if it does then not so much. I would think a good rod builder would be able to redo the guides though so that it could be used with an overhead.

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good Idea, Thanks Shimka!

Tue, 2016-02-16 20:51

good Idea, Thanks Shimka!

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ballistic surf

Tue, 2016-02-16 21:29

The ballistic surf would defiantly rub the blank big time loaded up with an overhead.I hate the way daiwa built these rods up, but the blanks are awesome. I ended up buying the blank from america and building my own up a few years ago when the exchange rate was ok. I've used mine for ballooning and its fine for it. certainly worth stripping back to a blank and getting it rebuilt, i haven't picked up my su450g since using this rod, perfect wage stick!!



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Tue, 2016-02-16 21:30

I meant Wagoe!!



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Penn talon

Tue, 2016-02-16 21:40

get yourself a Penn talon  which is an adjustable reel seat for spin or overhead.  They are on eBay usually purchased via the UK.

I use one on my ballistic to fish low mount spin or OH although I quite often just fish high mount spin but I understand smaller folk would struggle with this as you need to be lanky.

Ballistic is still one of the best beach fishing rods I have ever used so light and powerful ( I sold all my assassins) as above if you don't like it and are prepAred to spend the coin then rebuild the blank 

ballooning with a 13ft rod is not my idea of fun but each to their own

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 I have used both rods at

Tue, 2016-02-16 23:28

 I have used both rods at Wagoe I love the sensitivity of the ballistic for bite detection but when it comes down to the nitty gritty I find it easier winching a fish over the reef edge with the short butt of the SU plus being a composite it can handle a bit more of a beating on the reef when put down or heaven forbid getting bowled (not that I plan on that happening but you never know) just curious as to why the specs say spin/overhead seems a bit strange with guide spacing and number of guides. I did look into the Penn Talon reel seats a while ago from a previous thread alas couldn't get them in oz and put it in the too hard basket. I would like a shorter ballooning rod as the one I have now is an old mako extreme which isn't all that fun to fish with.

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Wed, 2016-02-17 05:49

if your looking for a balloon rod keep it under 10ft it gives you more power to pump and wind, as far as beating the swell at wagoe modify your rod holder arrangement so it is up high off the ground ie off your cars roof rack or long star pickets.
as far as handling a beating the SU should prevail here and they are much cheaper should you break it, hard to put the 2 rods side by side for fishing purposes as the ballistic is superior for actual fishing bite detection as you state

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Wed, 2016-03-09 13:02

Dude you got bowled on the sand... lel. You hardly go ballooning so stick to what you have got. The old mako extreme will work just fine. And cut the ass off ya stupid skinny daiwa rod and be done with like i said to do a long time ago.

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Wed, 2016-02-17 06:26

Yea its strange the way they built these rods with the tiny low down stripper and 5 guides plus tip dose not seem to suit either. I built mine up with 8 plus tip, low mount fishes much nicer than my old mans daiwa built version.Rig is spot on about the ballooning rods i have used my ballistic but prefer my much shorter dedicated ballooning rod!!



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 Thanks Rig and 100series my

Wed, 2016-02-17 19:59

 Thanks Rig and 100series my balloon stick is 8ft and 15-24 kg, usually stand up in the dunes or on the roof of the car to get the balloon out, lets just hope the wind plays ball on my next trip hopefully get a fish or two.

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 You can always bind on a

Fri, 2016-02-19 11:50

 You can always bind on a plate seat. Less than $2 for a chinese one. Use hose clips for a temporary position and can slide it any position you want. Heaps cheaper than repositioning guides unless you want that done anyway.

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had the same problem but with a different rod

Wed, 2016-02-24 13:17

I left the high mount on and just added another one lower down. Now I use the low mount with an overhead and switch to the high mount with the fixed spool.