Selecting jig rod weights
Submitted by fishfish on Sun, 2010-01-31 09:42
A questions to all the jiggy jiggers out there, I'm after a new jig rod {spin } to jig 100 - 200g jigs .
It will be used in the same depth range but depending on current different weight jigs are required, so my question is which end of the range of weights do you choose ie do you go with a 150g rod to work the 100g {or there abouts } jigs but may be a bit light to work the 200g jigs when the currents running or do you go with the 200g rod which covers the heavier end but will probably be too stiff to work the 100g jigs ????? ....
Or does it all come down to quality of the blank/brand and its ability to do both jobs ???
Cheers fishfish....
Paul H
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Rods are not that specific
Rods are not that specific with their rated jig weights i.e. will be rated for jigs weighing between a range say 100-250gm, 150-300gm or 200- 350gm and so on. Just get a rod to match your requirements.
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fishfish
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range ??
mmmmm fair enough Paul but why then do some manufacturers offer jig rod gram weights in 50g increaments ???? ie 100,150.200 etc
I thought there would be more to it than just one rod to suit to majority of light jig weights ???
Cheers fishfish
fishing fanatic
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just go for a like a t cuvre
just go for a like a t cuvre 200 or something.. i think its 100-200 or 150-200
hlokk
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tcurve 200 is 170-225g, but
tcurve 200 is 170-225g, but shimano also rate it as a 50lb rod, so its likely to be a fair bit stiffer than other blanks for 100-200g stuff (200g is more average rating, and I think the rod curve is a little different than some other jigging blanks)
till
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Who offers jig rods in 50g
Who offers jig rods in 50g increments? That is a bit crazy.
Nelly
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Jigging Master do...
Jigging Master do...
till
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Really, and to think I took
Really, and to think I took them slightly seriously before =(
hlokk
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50g of difference between
50g of difference between the rods could translate into 1kg or more in terms of drag rating.
See here for the comparisons
100g PE0.8-3 (seems 0.8-2 is more realistic)
150g PE1-3
200g PE1.5-4
You'll notice a difference between a PE2,3 and 4 rod.
In the AMJ range, smith's jig ratings are 180, 230, 280, 400 which is 50, 50 and 120g increments.
Similar with xzoga for example too. 80, 120, 180, 200, 300g. So 40,60,20,100g difference.
Jigging master just tend to rate their blanks in terms of jig weights, whereas other brands tend to use PE ratings instead (but if you look at the jig weights for them, the difference between models is around the same)
till
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I thought the original
I thought the original poster meant 50g increments range, ie; a 25-75g rod, a 75-125g rod, a 125-175g rod etc.
Instead they rate them for around 50g either side of the median weight which isn't quite so rediculous and translates to about a 100g range.
hlokk
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When you jerk a jig through
When you jerk a jig through the water, the amount of force it takes to do it is related to the weight. Generally when you jig a jig of the maximum weight on the rod, the rod will bend a fair bit (equivalent to drag pressure). You'll be able to use lighter jigs cause it will just mean that your rod doesnt bend as much. You can usually go up a little in jig weight too, but depending on the rod, your action, and how hard you jig it, it might make the rod bend too much to be comfortable at least.
Basically speaking, the jig weight is related to the stiffness/drag ability of the rod. So offering jig weights in 50g increments would mean that theres small increments between the rods (say PE2, PE3, PE4, PE5, etc). You'd be able to tell the difference between the rods as their drag ratings will be different. So it allows you to pick a rod which is exactly the stiffness you want (e.g. a 20lb rod, a 30lb rod, etc)
Its pretty unlikely that a '200g' rod wont work 100g jigs well (it depends on the blank style though). The jigging rod I used the most is rated 120g, and I do about 80-150g jigs on it. 150g is kinda a little on the heavy side, but it still works.
Ideally if you want to work 100-200g jigs, then something 180g rated would be best. If you'll probably be working 100-150g jigs most of the time, then it will be fine for that, but then it'll still handle 200g if used occasionally. Though, going a 200g rod is likely to be fine for it anyways (though, again, it really depends on the blank, but most will be fine).
Line wise, for those jigs, most jig rods would be around about PE3 (or PE4)
honsu chin
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Yes Jigging Master do, but
Yes Jigging Master do, but its a recommended best jig size. Doesnt mean you have to use that size. Each rating will be -+ 50gm.
If a jig rod is rated 100-200gm and you have 250gm....you still can use the rod, just obviously not 500gm on the same rod....
Most rods have recommended casting weights. Same principle applies to jigging rods.
HuggyB
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since when has it all become so technical?
hang a jig off the line and if it doesn't snap your rod when you hold it horizontal, you are good to go.
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hlokk
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I can hang a 500g off my
I can hang a 500g off my light jigging rod and it wont snap if I hold it vertical and high stick it. Pretty sure I wouldnt be able to jig the jig with the rod though.
Not sure how matching jig weights to a rating is any more technical than matching line or drag settings to a rod rating?
HuggyB
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Thanks Matt
I love how you took my comments seriously. Ah the hilarity.
And for the record, I have jigged 300g jigs with no problems on a rod rated 100 - 200g. Its common-sense really (although I know its not that common), you can push the envelope a bit, but dont take it too far - I wouldn't try jigging a 400g jig with it as IMO the rod isn't stiff enough to handle it.
Its really not that hard.
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hlokk
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Yeah, I suspected that I
Yeah, I suspected that
I probably should have been a bit more liberal in the smileys to get my tone across a bit better.
fishfish
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jiggy rod weights !!
Thanks to all who replyed and I didnt mean to use 50g increaments as a set in stone rule, just that Jigging Master offer it so I presumed that there had to be a reason for the differences. I was leaning towards a slightly heavier rod for a bit of a safety margin and also as Hlokk mentioned it also generally allows for slightly more drag pressure and line classes ... I was also concerned using heavier jigs on lighter rods and having to jig with the tip in the water....
Thanks once again fishfish....
Coxy
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Jigging Master Three King Special Light
Gidday fishfish
Jigging Master have just brought out there new range of rods, they are called the Three Kings Special that are designed by Pony Liu after a trip to the Three Kings in New Zealand. They are designed to have 35/65 action instead of the 45/55 that the power spell range has.
Here are the specs on there light model.
Action 200gram
Jig 120 - 300g
PE 3-6
Max Power at 50deg 26kg
" " at 90deg 16kg
I have seen these rods in person and they look amazing, I heard that Oceanside should have some stock of them shortly.
Cheers Coxy