South West Sanctuaries

 I'm not sure why I only found out yesterday about the marine sanctuaries that are proposed and said to be in place by winter 2018 down here off the capes....

 

Have you fellas on here been aware of the sanctuary zones?

 

I asked the young lady when i came in at the ramp yesterday why they were being implemented and her response was to ensure sustainability for demersal species....

 

I suggested bag limits and closures already are in place to do this, she suggested extra measures were needed....

 

Its a fucking pox.....

 

I'm not sure how they'll be enforcing them but i wont be paying attention to the imaginary line....

 

 


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Sustainability ??

Sun, 2017-12-17 12:57

Sucking off the greenies more like it.

No shortage of 50-60cm dhuies out there yesterday.

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 Yep exactly..... I'm all for

Sun, 2017-12-17 13:12

 Yep exactly.....

 

I'm all for sustainability but its a fucking joke on the WC bio.....

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 Done a search and can’t find

Sun, 2017-12-17 13:39

 Done a search and can’t find anything recent only some documents dating back to 2012. There is gonna be a major uproar with these parks if they are brought in. 

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 Probably too late I'm afraid

Sun, 2017-12-17 14:24

 Probably too late I'm afraid the labor /greens started all this when they had the wheel the libs put it on the back burner  now it changing of the gaurd time he we go again  as to how they police it (fisheries )same as over compliance  ignore it get fined don't pay fine lose driver's lic it sucks i know. 

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 Anyone got any idea how much

Sun, 2017-12-17 14:36

 Anyone got any idea how much the fine would be for "accidently" being complacent and not knowing where they start/stop?

 

If it is a labor/greens thing recfish should make enough noise that come next election they are out on their ear if they go ahead with it....

 

The National parks chic said they had kept saying it will be implemented in around six months, she said thats what they'd kept telling them....

 

She said hopefully in the next 6 months, i felt like saying oh yeah lets fucking hope so eh love.....

 

I didn't want to stir the pot as i didn't have my fishing lisence ( was at home in my wallet ) nor do i hold a skippers ticket....

 

I refuse to cough up the $120, I got my skippers ticket when i was 14 on a school camp in South Australia but of course the fuckwits over here won't recognise that.

 

 

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Skippers Ticket...

Sun, 2017-12-17 19:05

 ...unless they've shifted the goalposts, I thought you're exempt from having to do the practical assessment if you've been a registered boat owner for five years or more.

 

Theory only wouldn't be $120, would it?

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That was the case when

Mon, 2017-12-18 05:47

That was the case when skippers tickets first came in. Well over 10 years ago now.
I had to dig out my TL3 and change it over as I lived in the NT for a few years with no registered boat...

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 I don't get out fishing much

Sun, 2017-12-17 18:53

 I don't get out fishing much due to my location (desert) but from what I read and see on here, our fisheries seem to be in bloody good order and managed quite well already, so I can't see what more having these sanctuaries would achieve

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 It gives people a with no

Sun, 2017-12-17 20:29

 It gives people a with no actual idea nor scientific evidence a warm fuzzy feeling in their undies coming up with this this shit.....

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 Prepare for another one up

Sun, 2017-12-17 21:06

 Prepare for another one up near NW Cape, soon to be put up by a prominent West Australian

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 A lot near the shelf whole

Mon, 2017-12-18 06:32

 A lot near the shelf whole way down coast 

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A few links

Mon, 2017-12-18 17:39

I found a few links that might be conected to what you are talking about. 

It seems to me this is the outcome from the Tony Burke / Pew proposal from 2012.

www.environment.gov.au/topics/marine/marine-reserves

Each link seems to have a different opinion on what is actualy going to happen. 

www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-17/australian-marine-parks-criticism-of-new-conservation-plan/8944594

And this group has been pushing this agenda for some time on FB and other social media groups.

www.marineconservation.org.au/pages/save-our-sanctuaries-australias-marine-parks-under-threat.html

 

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 Just had a look good news is

Mon, 2017-12-18 22:20

 Just had a look good news is most areas are still open mainly commercial use is being targeted. Around margs with in 5 mile seems to stay the same.

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 Few  cray spots at hamlin

Mon, 2017-12-18 23:37

 Few  cray spots at hamlin and good dhu ground off lewuin cape cosy corner fucked as a shore dive and for what.this shit was put in place so labor got the greens voteway back when as s usual they let murig aca pew spokeswoman babble a lot of shit and call it science when it was just a political stunt for her backers  (pew)lucky the fisheries refuses to take her views seriously after finding who h r r backers were shame all over departments of government don't do the same. 

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The federal Marine Parks.

Tue, 2017-12-19 03:23

The marine parks in Federal waters are quite acceptable if implemented as published recently but the State government ones are a lunacy. . In geographe bay for instance they have stuck a sanctuary zone at both ends and one in the middle and they say it's all to do with sea grasses but then they allow big cruise ships to anchor close to the jetty and plough up the grasses with their big anchours. What damage does a guy in a dingy do hanging a line over the side compared to what these big ships do but they'll argue the ocean needs to be protected from fisho's. They are got to be joking bloody idiots.

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Rise of the P E W

Tue, 2017-12-19 12:09

From things that I'm seeing, to me it looks like the tree huggers and the like have found favour with a minister and are making hay while the sun shines so as to speak.

I have a bad feeling that next year we will have to be very vigilant and make sure that we are up to date with what is proposed by various departments of the government that could have a detrimental effect with access to various fishing areas constrained and these moves will be brought into place with stealth and guile.

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Labor government

Tue, 2017-12-19 12:22

Labor government

Extremist Labor DPAW already tried to shut down the Canal rocks boat ramp

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There is a line of oil rigs

Tue, 2017-12-19 13:21

There is a line of oil rigs being installed up and down the capes. Didn't see John Butler protesting oil rigs in pristine habitat under his "Lock the Gate" campaign.

The oil industry did a deal which ensured jobs via oil funding for lazy marine park greenie rangers who are anti fishing

Don't know why they are bothered with the oil rigs. Between electric cars and the hybrid KERS, oil demand is in decline.

If you have oil shares, dump them.

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Even though they are separate

Tue, 2017-12-19 12:29

Even though they are separate entities, I don't buy British Petroleum fuel

Read how a billion dollar trust fund dishes out its hush money

http://sharkmanofcortez.com/shark-protection-its-all-about-oil/

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Greens Bob Brown Foundation

Tue, 2017-12-19 13:09

Greens Bob Brown Foundation funds Sea Shepherd.

Ever noticed the Dunsborough Dive Shop has a big Sea Shepherd logo over the door. Kicking out anglers.]

Off the Save the Marine Park Website. Obvious PEW involvement.

Jobs for the Nimbans.

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 Salt..... A line of Oil Rigs

Tue, 2017-12-19 21:45

 Salt.....

 

A line of Oil Rigs being installed off the capes?!?!......

 

Hmmmm come on now mate release the grip a little, its turning purple!!

 

There is no Oil and Gas exploration down here at present and TBH i'll be suprised if there is ever any IMO.....

 

Lets not talk bullshit and get off track, well unless you can of course provide some evidence of something that is happening right under my nose in an industry i'm involved in then i'll of course eat my humble pie....

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Who built the Augusta marina

Wed, 2017-12-20 06:42

Who built the Augusta marina Now, however, thanks to the Western Australian Royalties for Regions program, cruisers have a safe haven at the new $36.47 million Augusta boat harbour. The new facility was officially opened in November 2014 after almost three years of construction, including the creation of 600 metre and 150 metre breakwaters using 500,000 tonnes of granite from the onsite quarry and 40,000 cubic metres of imported sand fill. Read more at http://www.mysailing.com.au/news/new-boat-harbour-at-cape-leeuwin-makes-cruising-western-australia-safer#oQ1c8D0ci8RZXQCh.99

Yeah, Ill do some more research tomorrow. Maybe its the research running out of Augusta.

The new seismic reflection was obtained in underexplored and unexplored areas offshore, extending from the southern tip of Western Australia at Cape Leeuwin to as far north as Exmouth. The survey acquired about 7300 kilometres of seismic reflection data from the Mentelle Basin off Bunbury, the Zeewyck and Houtman sub-basins within the Perth Basin, the Carnarvon Basin and the Wallaby Plateau.

http://www.energynewsbulletin.net/exploration/news/1077350/opening-up-wa-s-frontier-basins

 

Just looking for the image of the WA Fisheries Marine park brochure on it with "Sponsored by Chevron"

The largest donors to the NRDC include the Pew Foundation (Sun Oil/Sunoco), the W. Alton Jones Foundation (Citgo), and the Rockefeller Brothers Fund (Standard Oil/Exxon Mobil). The Rockefeller family initiated the Environmental Grantmakers’ Association. The British Royals (BP) as well as Prince Bernhard (Shell) and the Rockefellers were principal actors in initiating the World Wildlife Federation (WWF) as well as the World Wildlife Fund for Nature (WWFN). Sunoco oil →Pew Charitable Trusts→The Nature Conservancy. (WWF)

 

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At what point bullshit?

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:23

At what point bullshit? At what isnt it in relation to marine parks?

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 I'm not sure what relevance

Thu, 2017-12-21 12:27

 I'm not sure what relevance the new "awsome" Augusta Marina and the supposed "line of oil rigs" have to do with each other....

 

Me personally i'm not opposed to change but down here most seem to be, perhaps you fall into the latter bracket....

 

I'm sure if there is a "no oil rigs" in the South West John Butler will indeed be there, he'll drive there like all the other hypercritical tossers that accumulate down here....

 

As long as it aint happening in their backyard they dont care....

 

They'll happily hook up their vans and camper trailers to head north during the winters here, some probably enjoy fishing around the dozen or so facilities that are along the Ningaloo coast.....

 

While i myself use Oil/Gas for the lifestyle I enjoy if there is responsible drilling along the coastline i live then so be it....

 

Its gotta come from somewhere....

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I reckon you'll be the first

Thu, 2017-12-21 12:48

I reckon you'll be the first in line to buy a cheese sausage from the Dunsborough Puma servo Boon

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I couldnt believe my eyes

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:13

I couldnt believe my eyes either when I saw the oil companies sponsoring fishing closures.

Maybe organised crime can sponsor our police force?


I guess if you are powerful enough you can give government departments enough money $ to greenwash your environmental destroying business when you have wiped out millions of juvenile sea creatures in currents via oil spills and the greenies will just blame anglers.

I dont think the Timorese have recovered yet.

Id say the Augusta marina is one of the stop points occassionaly for support services around to the Australian bight. 

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What part of bullshit

Fri, 2018-01-19 17:17

What part of bullshit corruption hush money weren't you referring to Tim Boon?

I myself havent seen a Sea Shepherd t-shirt for a while now. There is a lot of blokes that want to kill them.

Sea Shepherd boys got a nice hiding the other week.

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haha

Thu, 2017-12-21 15:43

 i lived in dunsborough for 22yrs ,

3 servos on 1 street mad,

the poor bp will die , thats where i filled for years easy with a big boat, 

i havnt seen the marine park closures etc but i do know its been just talk for years 

i do remember even part of the shelf north was included,

as for the bay thr pros stilll run nets all across it,

the bay needs help, its fucked now

 

 

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It seems the greenies are

Fri, 2018-01-19 17:18

It seems the greenies are trying to protect the Shell and BP cartel in Dunsborough

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https://parksaustralia.gov.au/marine/parks/south-west/plans/

Thu, 2017-12-21 21:32

 This not so good

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So is that corrupt enough?

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:16

So is that corrupt enough? How would sponsoring go in regards jobs for hush money greenies and closures to anglers?

So oil companies fund what exactly? There is no fences.

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That would be our cronie

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:32

That would be our cronie corrupt state government? So when is the inquiry into how overseas companies are influencing the removal of human rights?

 

 

Pew accused of using "fake" fishos in renewed push to close Coral Sea

THE US-based anti-fishing Pew organisation has been accused of using “fake” anglers to garner support for a push to create a massive lock-out zone in the Coral Sea. Pew last year failed in a campaign to to lock anglers out of 1.3 million square kilometres of iconic sportfishing territory after the Abbott Government halted the previous Labor government’s national marine parks scheme. Now a Sydney-based tackle distributor says Pew is seeking to convince Aussie anglers that the Coral Sea lock-out has support amongst the fishing fratenity. Research by Andrew Hestelow, from the Sydney-based Downrigger Shop, accuses Pew of using “fake” anglers to push its marine agenda. Via his weekly e-newsletter, Hestelow says that Pew is using “greenies pretending they were fishos who supported marine parks closures” in literature promoting the closure of the Coral Sea to fishing. Hestelow published images taken from campaign material he says originated from Pew showing “anglers” commenting about the need for lockouts. These “anglers” are then shown to have links to anti-fishing green groups. The brochure was reportedly handed out to music goers at a recent Homebake festival in Sydney.

http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/pew-accused-of-using-fake-fishos-in-renewed-push-to-close-coral-sea

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Australian anglers first

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:42

Australian anglers first became aware of the US-based Pew environment organisation in mid 2009. The group, then headed up by veteran eco-campaigner Imogen Zethoven, had released a glossy brochure calling for the Coral Sea, to the east of northern Queensland, to be declared “the world’s largest no take marine park”. Fishing World followed up initial reports on this proposal with lengthy interviews with Zethoven, which detailed Pew’s “no compromise” stance on recreational fishing. See HERE for details. These interviews, published in September 2009 on the Fishing World website, sparked significant concerns amongst the recreational fishing community and resulted in public meetings and vocal opposition to any large scale fishing bans. At that stage, however, the rec fishing sector was disparate and fragmented with no effective voice or strategies. Fishing World then arranged an interview with then federal environment minister Peter Garrett.

http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/analysis-pew-politics-and-fishing

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RECENT revelations regarding

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:38

RECENT revelations regarding the use of "dodgy" science by the US-based Pew Charitable Trust in its push for Australia's Coral Sea to become the world's largest no-fishing zone have reportedly rattled local marine conservation activists. However, Fishing World magazine's ongoing investigation into this issue has uncovered information which suggests Pew should be used to this sort of adverse publicity. It seems that Australians are not alone in their mounting dislike for this giant American conservation group and its extremist views on the need for vast no-fishing zones throughout the world. Others in the Pacific have also been exposed to Pew's philosophy on marine conservation, and it seems they have also become aware of issues relating to misinformation, deception and blatant bully boy tactics from the oil money funded Pew.

http://www.marinebusiness.com.au/news/pew-slammed-over-bully-boy-tactics

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So which part of bullshit

Fri, 2018-01-19 14:43

So which part of bullshit were you referring Tim Boon?

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wonder if

Fri, 2018-01-19 15:40

 

wonder if the pros can still run the netts through the bay, i have seen a net dropped right next to me northwest of the cape and it run around 8mile into the bay....

 

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Tell the Labor Tony Burke

Fri, 2018-01-19 17:15

Tell the Labor Tony Burke ****head where to go!!!   The corruption of foreign money has to stop!!!

 

FOR an organisation that claimed a naval battle 70 years ago was proof of the need to lock Australian fishers out of our own oceans, the United States-based and oil company-funded Pew Environment Group was quick to accuse local recreational angling groups of running a misleading campaign.

http://www.fishingworld.com.au/news/opinion-who-s-misleading-who-pew

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At the same time Pew was

Fri, 2018-01-19 17:22

At the same time Pew was lambasting Australian angling groups and pulling down dodgy videos, an open letter from Pew to the US-based Sport Fishing magazine exposed the sheer hypocrisy of its push to lock up our waters. Sport Fishing's editor Doug Olander had written a piece about the push for marine parks in Australia and warned that the US would be next, tipping the Gulf of Mexico as the next marine battlefield.

 

However, Pew director of federal fisheries policy Lee Crockett said this would never happen, as the Gulf of Mexico had too much economic and social value to the US.

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Throat

Fri, 2018-01-19 18:34

I wouldn't piss down a greenies throat even if their stomach was on fire.

It all comes down to dollars, influence and spin, it always has and it always will. Wasn't Jessica Meeuwig's partner eventually revealed to be quite high up in an oil and gas company that had their fingers in the exploration pie off Broome? The same area where Jessica Meeuwig was tring to spin her PEW funded research to keep west aussie anglers out of the area. PEW it stinks alright.

Keep them under the pump saltatrix. I fear what a federal labor govt will bring in regarding fisheries closures.

 

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Bob Brown steps down as Sea

Fri, 2018-01-19 21:32

Bob Brown steps down as Sea Shepherd chairman

 

FORMER Australian Greens leader Bob Brown has joined the board of anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd.

The outgoing chairman of Sea Shepherd Australia Bob Brown

backing from politicians such as former Green Party leader Bob Brown, has kept Sea Shepherd in the public eye.

n addition to his accomplishments as Captain of Sea Shepherd Ship, Bob Barker, Peter was recently named the Bob Brown's Foundation's Young Environmentalist of the Year

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 I love you're passion Salt,

Sat, 2018-01-20 08:01

 I love you're passion Salt, you'd be a good fella to have a chat to over a frothy....

 

I take it you live down south, perhaps it would be easier to discuss than on here....

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Are you down south? Ill be

Sat, 2018-01-20 08:16

Are you down south? Ill be around

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