Squid Jigging TechS Share info
Submitted by DhuBoi on Sun, 2010-12-05 19:38
Hey guys recently i have been getting deep into the squiding scene i have 5 or so decent squid jigss and have nailed a few decent sizes. Just curious as to jigging techs people use while going for the squid and the depth, usualy i jigging in 3 to 6 metres. When i use my rod i let the jig sink n flick the rod up a few times and wind a bit let it sink and do the same. Just wondering what other people do . cheers an happy squiding dont get inked lol
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snappermiles
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throw your jig
into between 1.5 and seven metres of water drift with the wind and drink beer whilst waiting for the rod to bend!!!
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hemi
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Sounds like my kind of
Sounds like my kind of fishing
danno
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Sound like your technique is
Sound like your technique is fine. i use 3 sharp lifts most of the time and only vary it if im not getting anything. as for depth 1-10m is what i try and stick to but i have had a good session in 15m of water. i changew jigs alot if it not producing but not before i chance and vary my retrive with that jig.
DhuBoi
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yeh i have found that in 15
yeh i have found that in 15 to 20 while fishing whiting and other fish species i usually popp a jig out let it drift in the current and have nailed some absolute corkers , i have never actually properly jigged for squid in 15 metres. mainly shallower water , i have seen jigging techs quite agreesive flicks and rods rises to get them . cheers
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danno
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i use a semi aggrssive
i use a semi aggrssive technique.
go on youtube and search egi, squidding, squidding/calamari and ill get some helpful tips. most of it is in japanese but you can make out their movements.
chrisp
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Egi Master
No Comments from DazSam yet..Suprising
DazSamFishing
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hahaha. I remember Schecky
hahaha. I remember Schecky explaining how clever the old squid is. I disagree... they aren't too smart when there is a jig in front of them!
schecky
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I did? haha I dont remember
I did? haha I dont remember that but they are dumb when you are out for them Daz, after all your the egi master
Japs think they are the most amazingly clever things in the ocean... iz why you need egi jig rod, double paddle handle, egi spool, egi floating braid, heat expelling egi jig and egi shoes...
oh dont forget the egimax spray!
danno
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isnt squidding braid spose
isnt squidding braid spose to sink haha lol
schecky
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Can do both but I have seen
Can do both but I have seen more floating ones as it keeps the jig horizontal on the sink.
The fact that it comes in both types shows what a gimmick it is anyway. You would be a sucker to fall for half the crap these Japs hype up.
SamC
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But i heard the Egi master
But i heard the Egi master got out squidded the other day by a pimped up handline?????
Cheers,
Sam
schecky
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That is true, but I
That is true, but I obviously had the advantage with such superior gear. Daz had a crappy emeraldas reel, no match for the light blue handline
flangies
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suppose it was a bit like
suppose it was a bit like the time i outsquidded you on the 1.19 force ten handline ay?
PilbaraBrad
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they are squid, there is a
they are squid, there is a reason why you can cath 10 in 20 minutes you know.
now, who will bite???
mejutty
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I was out in the 40's using
I was out in the 40's using some whole whiting as bait one followed the retrieve, it took off out the back of the boat quickly got a jig on my bottom gear sent the jig about 10 metres out the back of the boat slowly braught it in. It followed the jig all the way back to the boat and took the jig pretty much at the waterline at the side of the boat.
Only dam thing I caught all day. Should have replaced the whiting with a jig and sent it back down.
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Hmm sounds like a good Xmas
Hmm sounds like a good Xmas day activity when we go to drop the cray pots
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Markie
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when im on the boat i dont
when im on the boat i dont do anything. Drop it down to the weed patches n with the boat drifting wait for some tension and i got HIMM :) or her :P
hunterdive
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going on the vibe of a
going on the vibe of a couple of the replies on this post, does anyone else think the the whole EGI thing is a absolute load of crock. I think its just a huge marketing scam. I have never has too much trouble catching squid. Just drift over a weedbank in 3-6 m of water, and try a few different colours. Different days different colours will work better, but to release a whole range of rods, reels, mega bucks jigs, I dunno but it sounds a bit over the top.
I'm no stranger to buying bling or quality gear either, I've got my fair share of Stella/ Certate/ Torsa etc, but I think these tackle companies are laughing. If there is more to it and someone recons that they do make a difference I'd love to be proven wrong, or are the results that much better when using quality EGI gear.
I would love to hear a response from some of the crew with the Esmereldas etc and the sexy EGI gear to hear their point of view
danno
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ive got a fair bit of
ive got a fair bit of squidding tackle including rod, reel, jigs and accesseries. i personaly think that it feels bettewr to use this gear compared to normal gear. might just be me but it adds fun to catching squid. the jigs are the most important thing tho. the other bits and pieces are up to your personal choice.
im happy spending my money on squidding gear like you guys are happy spending money on jigging whats the difference?
schecky
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The difference is, a cheap
The difference is, a cheap jigging outfit is highly likely to go bust on decent fish... a crappy squidding outfit wont go bust, nor will it decrease your catch rate much.
I agree with the squid jig side of things and they are the most vital part of squidding. I also agree with squidding rods to an extent for LB fishers as they do need the length to reach the weed banks etc. and also that soft action.
But every other thing is a load of crap. Would you go jigging with a handline? No. Squidding with a handline? Of course!
Markie
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spot on schecky although i
spot on schecky although i stilllll wouldnt buy a rod for squiddin tho, my bream gear is fine. Defs would not use a handline land based tho :P
SamC
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Im all for the quality jigs
Im all for the quality jigs and how they work, their sink rate, their finish ect.
But i think the whole tackle side of things is a bit over the top.
Cheers,
Sam
scottland
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i feel a fishwrecked
egi comp brewing here haha
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Markie
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Dont pay huge bucks on my
Dont pay huge bucks on my jigs, im a big fan of the daiwa emeraldis jigs but thats as far as it goes. Cheap line on a hand line reel and im set.
JohnF
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Daz jigs for squid like
Daz jigs for squid like most people jig for Sambos....VERY agressive......and jigs for Sambos like most people jig for squid.....soft and feeble.....very strange....but he is the Egi master.....does OK on Sambos too I spose.....
Schecky on the other hand....only uses kwalittee gear.....fully blinged flourocarbon handline....noice!
I actually had a big squid take about 2 inches of drag the other day on my 1500 Tierrra with 8lb braid.......fearing a possible spooling, I think it is time to upgrade, SW20000 Stella will be used next outing with PE8 braid....never give a inch!
Who said ya dont need bling gear for squid.......
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Markie
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hahaha johhnyy out there to
hahaha johhnyy out there to catch that giant squid.. bigger than a submarine.
MattMiller
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HAHA
2inches, must have been shitting yourself
schecky
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hahahaha classic!
hahahaha classic!
hunterdive
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thanks for the replies lads,
thanks for the replies lads, and sorry for hijacking the thread, although its is related. I agree with the jigs, some of the colours and the finish on the more expensive ones are pretty nice.
I think the basis for my comments comes from my view that you need quality gear to catch good (and big) fish consistantly, it will be more reliable, perform better and be far nicer to use. On the other hand I think you can use a cheap combo or a handline to catch squid pretty easily, without the fear or loosing that fish or in this case squid of a life time through gear failure.
But what ever floats your boat, I spend good money on quality toys of all sorts, I just can't buy to cheaper end of the market, but if squidding is your thing then good luck to you, I just don't think you need it to get good results
Adam Gallash
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yup
I'm with you on your comments hunter, a tackle industry gimmick that has worked very well.
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till
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Sort of, I must say that egi
Sort of, I must say that egi rods do cast a mile and if they didn't have a specialist stick, I'd just be using a bream rod.
Shorty
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Egi rods can propell a jig
Egi rods can propell a jig up to 80 meters they say, great for landbased,,
brenz
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shecky jigs are not meant to
shecky jigs are not meant to sink horizontaly infact the thrue way for them to sink is at a 45 deg angle with a sink rate of 1m per 3.5sec. now we can start having a crack saying it is all a gimmick or that the creature is dumb . so dhuies must be super stupid as well with sambos etc for eating lumps of metal. gts are dumb for eating lumps of wood and pelajics are stupid for being excited by anything that flashesand makes noise... conclusion the whole ocean is full of stupid animals. what ever floats your boat . but in recent outings one of mymates has been useing a standard spin stick with f all give and is pulling hooks on over half the squid hooked whilst the egi rods pull close to no hooks at all. just my take on things anywayz
Foxy
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Geez blokes... Far too much
Geez blokes...
Far too much marketing influence turning a simple activity into a complex fine art.
Get a $20 kids flick rod, a jig or two for more than $14 each, drift or cast over broken, weedy/sandy bottom, move the jig around a bit above the weed, [dont snag weed-]
When you feel the weight, wind in with steady pressure.
use a net or grab ,em round the neck.
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What happens if you haveen't
What happens if you haveen't got a boat and are land based ?
sea-kem
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HAHA I'm with you Foxy. a
HAHA I'm with you Foxy. a half decent flic rod and jig simple. Got me fired up for christmas day. Good excuse to the missuss. If I said we were going on a full blown Dhuie adventure there'd be trouble at the camp. But i'm just dropping the pots and throwing a quick jig out (with a beer or two)
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schecky
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Sorry Brenz just going off
Sorry Brenz just going off what I have read on jap sites and been told over time. I have never even worried about it though because its all a bit over the top for me.
Sambos are stupid, stupid as hell - the point I am trying to make is you still need a decent outfit which will withstand them? I said myself that squid jig presentation is important and I also said that egi rods can be very good for LB fishermen (although I never pull hooks on squid using normal bream rods and even my old Loomis which had a very fast action).
I didnt mean to offend you though brenz haha just a bit of fun....
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shecky never offended mate
shecky never offended mate just wanted to join iin on the fun lol
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If the Egi guys want to
If the Egi guys want to spend heaps of money on specialised rods and reels and jigs, then thats fine by me.
Boat guys spend plenty on their toys as does jigging and popping folk.
Fishing is a hobby/pasttime or sport, whatever you label it. Thing is, it costs money.
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That book
I'm glad I didn't read that book - or I would have been stuck with the make up kit instead of my boat and associated toys!
Fishing costs money LB or boat... I think it's like diving though - ya buy the best that you can afford at the time...
None of my tackle is expensive - I'd rather spend the money on my GPS and Sounder, and be able to get out to the good spots. I don't think the fish take much notice of the price of the cutlery their lunch is on...
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got it in one juneka
as long as the terminal tickle is good! a average rod and reel will catch as many fish as a top of the range reel if you look after it!!
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Can't agree on that, I have
Can't agree on that, I have seen average reels get gears smashed up north, not to mention busted rods.
You get what you pay for
till
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Pretty much, you can catch a
Pretty much, you can catch a lot of average fish on an average reel. I'm running 15-20lb line on a Daiwa 2500R and you know rthats just going to smash cheaper gear.
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Yeh i think that some of the
Yeh i think that some of the egi products are over the top but , its like that with everything now with fishing , special fishing gear for this species and that species , its peoples choice wether to buy the gear ornot , imo a cheap bream rod or 20 buck kids rod with a light tip will do the job fine , plenty of examples of people using cheap quality gear and nailing some excellent size and quality fish and squid etc. Jut depends on how far you want to take your hobbie as to what gear you buy .
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flangies
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How many breambos here have
How many breambos here have steez and/or exist?
And to all the people who say squid are stupid, when you've got a shirt full of ink I think the squid has the last laugh ^_^
brenz
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breambos
im guilty of that one to flangies
flangies
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I would be too if I had the
I would be too if I had the money
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G'day DhuiBoi, there is
G'day DhuiBoi, there is nothing wrong with your technique. Mix it up a bit and try a few different retrieves. Personally I like a wind drift of .8 - 1knt which I find is ideal and no winding back in required but alot of ground is covered. I've also found that the thumpers I've caught are always on a pencil jig or whole bait jig. A whole herring or whiting, trumpeter, yellowtail are ideal and I nearly always have one over the side when fishing.
Just remember squid turn up almost everywhere so dont be shy to try!
fisho-ron
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question? when we are
question?
when we are squiding, we get alot coming right to the jig, take a sniff and back away, tried being aggresive and also tried just letting it stay still.
so, why is this?
today we had about 10 do this, we still got some anyway but i would like to get the other 10
cheers ron
danno
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with the little ones you
with the little ones you have to down size your jig. i was squidding the other day and one followed my 3.0 jig all the way in to the rocks but wouldnt hit a quick change to a 1.8 and the i got him. another way is to open the bail arm and let the jig sink to the bottom they will often come and hit it then.
Shorty
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Try changing the colour as
Try changing the colour as well and having some scent on your jig cane make the difference on shy squid a lot of people reckon,,
But what Danno said let it sink to the bottom,,i guess a squid thinks its died and better get it before his mates do, i have seen this in action dozens of times off the Busselton jetty and it does work well most times,,
shifeng
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i agree on danno on that one
i agree on danno on that one too. i squid at ammo dump jetty at woody's using a 1.8 and i cast it out and just leave my rod there for 3 to 5 min and when i lift the rod up, there is usually a squid there alr. not much work needs to be done.
honsu chin
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Gimmick....
I totally disagree with expensive squid jigs been a gimmick. I myself is an addict to squidding gear but I don't just buy the most expensive just becoz its the newest thing out there.
I fish from the shore for squid 90% of the time and casting distance is a requirement for me. Hence the Egi rods and "egi" braid. The rod is certainly a big help for me. I also spend the money on braid becoz, again, casting distance. I've got a very smooth and thin braid that breaks around 10lb - 12lb and its very thin. Usually its about $80-$100 for 150m spool. Its not a necessity but its my preference.
Leemo
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totally agree with you honsu
totally agree with you honsu about the distance. squidding with flangies one day in freo landbased, he had his Stradic and blak diamon flats ranger. i had my 30 dollar shakespeare synergy rod with a plueger trion with mono. couldnt get half the distance he was, and he was getting rewarded for it!
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honsu chin
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Distance...
and an 8'+ squid rod can get even further to those outer weed patches....
honsu chin
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Back to squid jigs....
I have alot of squid jigs but its not all marketing gimmick, as some ppl have pointed out.
Obviously marketing is required to sell a product. What product doesnt. Then why do people buy E-tec's over Yamaha or Suzuki. Why do people like Boston Whaler??? Marketing gimmick have shown people that they still float even cut in half!! Gimmick or not??
Same with squid jigs. I buy my squid jigs becoz of certain colors where I think it'll catch squid. Also I buy certain "type" becoz of the sink rate, casting ability or adjustable weight or even different glow color.
Fair enough if you're in the boat and you got no problem catching squid on the $2 jigs but question is how long does it take you to get squid in the middle of the day.
I buy the branded "gimmick" squid jigs becoz it catches more squid and even in shorter time period.
Ive bagged out from the shore countless of time and done within a very period of time. Some days within 1hr. Its all due to squid jigs working for me. These are the reason why I buy the more expensive squid jigs.
flangies
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Seems like someone struck a
Seems like someone struck a nerve :P
honsu chin
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Nope...
Just saying my bit and how it is....imo.
sea-kem
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What is the bag limit for
What is the bag limit for squid?
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flangies
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15 per person per day . Boat
15 per person per day . Boat limit of 30
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Squid in Action
For those that might have missed my underwater vid;
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/squid-13
You can learn alot from viewing this short video.
Cheers Pete
Shorty
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It will be an eye opener for
It will be an eye opener for the cheapy jig bridgade, sure you can drop a jig down near the bottom while haveing a beer or use a $2 jig and get a feed but by the time you have 6 the quality jig boys have 30 thats the difference
Brucesta
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i agree with the expensive
i agree with the expensive jigs, they last longer and work slightly better than cheapies (thankfully when we find the squid, WE FIND THEM!!! 30 in 30 mins on occasions) and you attract more fish with them also.
if your off a boat then rods are not so important as long as it has a soft tip for a slow action. some days jigging it up and down works other times it's a steady and slow retrieve. Colours well it's pink or nothing for me, but orange and green and beige have worked, also black on occasions
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