Tagged Salmon

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I caught a few salmon off the beach in Mandurah last month. Great fun on a lure.

One of them had a tag in it. Tag was from NSW which surprised me.

I thought 'bloody hell', surely it hasn't swum that far.  

Called NSW fisheries, then filled in a capture form they sent me

Turns out the fish was tagged and released in Mewstones three weeks earlier.

So it hadn't swum very far after all.  

Still interesting though, Ive never caught a tagged fish before

Im interested to hear more about who would be tagging fish in WA with NSW tags

The fisheries guy wasnt surprised but id like to hear more about it if any one knows.   


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Most WA fish are tagged with

Sun, 2016-06-12 18:37

Most WA fish are tagged with NSW tags. They have the funding for a nationwide tagging program and WA doesn't.

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Sun, 2016-06-12 18:43

NSW fisheries runs the tagging program for all the game fishing clubs. ANSA also tags but are a different program.
If you have the number I can check if it was one of the Perth Game Fishing Club members who tagged the fish.
 
You should get info on the original dtails sent to you as well by NSW fisheries.

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Thanks Tim

Sun, 2016-06-12 19:47

 Ive sent you a message. Yes they promised to send me a re capture certificate.  

I had no thoughts of catching a tagged fish so was unprepared and very surprised. 

In future i will have a rag to wipe the slime off the tag & a pen & paper to write down the number,

& maybe my reading glasses should i be so lucky to catch another one 

As it was i couldnt read the number and was eager to release the fish quickly.

So i pulled  the tag out to clean and read later

Would have been better to leave it in & just record the details

It swam away strongly - they're a tough fish arent they?  

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Sun, 2016-06-12 20:48

Will let you know when/if we have the details.
As a club we have tagged a significant amount of salmon in the last couple of years with the great run we have had.
They are a very hardy fish and seem to survive well. When you see some of the injuries they can have and still put up a good fight I think the capture part is pretty minor.
If the tag was inserted properly it should have been hooked into one of the dorsal spines. Might have made it hard to get out but shouldnt be too bad for it.
You could try taking a photo of the tag with your phone next time so you have a reference for when you get home.

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Mon, 2016-06-13 19:43

 Yeah Im too old to have thought of that.

 The tag came out easy peasy - it was only in a fleshy part of its back 

 It seemed fine when i released it 

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Australia wide

Sun, 2016-06-12 18:44

The NSW DPI tagging program is in use throughout Australia.  It's the primary tagging system used, although some billfish skippers/anglers also use The BillFish Foundation tags.

When there are good schools about the metro area PGFC members can tag several hundred fish during a season.

EDIT - forgot about ANSA tags as Tim mentioned.

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 Tagged a Salmon off

Sun, 2016-06-12 22:23

 Tagged a Salmon off Yallingup in 1997 and 26 days later it was caught at Esperance. Not bad of a swim in that time :-)

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 Where you been hiding all

Sun, 2016-06-12 23:00

 Where you been hiding all this time Buz?

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Still around Rob.Have backed

Sun, 2016-06-12 23:27

Still around Rob.

Have backed away from fishing a fair bit since 2014. Had a few changes in my life, plus also ticked off a heap of PB's all in that one year, so have been trying out other hobbies a bit more now. :-)

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Mon, 2016-06-13 09:08

Hi C.P
Have been advised that this Salmon was tagged around the Mewstone area on 24/4/16 by one of the PGFC members.
Seems like he was heading home for the winter.

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Thanks

Mon, 2016-06-13 20:51

 Interesting to hear about the original release 

 Hopefully he's still on his way home 

Not a very smart fish it has to be said - caught twice

Bloody lucky fish actually - released twice 

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ANSA tags are yellowNSW game

Mon, 2016-06-13 20:16

ANSA tags are yellow

NSW game tags are pinkish redish, usually 'game tags' for game fish.  Some are special shark tags with stainless tips.

But ANSA tags have the 1800number that you call which was in WA.  Not sure now.  About $1 each too. If you have 50000 in tackleboxes, its a lot of money. Ouch!!!!

WA salmon are a different sub species to eastern states.  They generally start around WA SA border somehwere and head in opposite directions.  SA salmon are genrally smaller than WA salmon by a fair bit.

But IGFA tags are different to ANSA tags

ANSA tags are targeted at specifically requested species by FRDC (fisheries).   IGFA or GFAA tags are put in 'gamefish' he gamefish on the gamefish list

IGFA manage those tags, partly due to,I think that pelagics gamefish can be quite global.

I read this week online, a Yellowtail Kingfish started in South Australia, and turned up in Queensland

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Corrections

Tue, 2016-06-14 06:59

Some incorrect information here.

The most commonly used tagging system in Australia is the NSW DPI game Fish Tagging Program.  There are separate tags for billfish, sharks and other pelagic gamefish species.  They are all yellow, with the exception of a small pink tag for small pelagics that is not commonly used.  

GFAA, nor IGFA as far as I'm aware, does not run a tagging program.  They endorse and encourage clubs to use the NSW DPI program.

I know WA Fisheries do tagging programs from time to time but they are targeted at certain species for research purposes.  ANSA state bodies run tagging programs under the ANSA banner but I'm not sure how widely they are used.  There are also other international programs such as Gray FishTag, and The Billfish Foundation.

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Queensland have about 5000

Mon, 2016-06-13 20:17

Queensland have about 5000 ANSA tags in Mangrove Jack.  They discovered Mangrove Jack reached a certain size and moved out of QLD creeks to inshore reefs once the Jacks reached a certain size.

The tagging models are different affiliation to affiliation, then state to state.  IGFA GFAA tags are global.

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Who wants to ping some

Tue, 2016-06-14 08:02

Who wants to ping some sharks?

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Now you're talking!

Tue, 2016-06-14 10:10

Now you're talking!

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Do they have stainless tips? 

Wed, 2016-06-15 21:53

Do they have stainless tips?  Stainless tips for sharks?

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 Yeah. Stainless heads on

Thu, 2016-06-16 07:59

 Yeah. Stainless heads on them. 

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