Tough Times?
Submitted by Adam Gallash on Thu, 2015-02-12 06:58
So it seems things are reaaaallllly slowing out there in the business and job world for WA. Whats the tale of woe from your work site at the moment?
It's cost cutting central around here; cars, contractors and any small expense that once would have been no issue.
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collin g wood
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Can't get my iPad to play movies for some reason, just gotta sit back and watch the rods go round and round and round, bored shitless.
sea-kem
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My main oil and gas client
My main oil and gas client has clamped up, just trickle of work from them. So having to hunt for work in other areas. It'll get worse before it gets better.
Love the West!
seaswirl
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concrete
I deliver concrete. I have had a 30% decline since November. ...
trymyluck
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Just been made redundant,
Just been made redundant, looking for another mining job !
tot
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a/c land
Definitely not as many wall splits being sold this summer. I know a few company's are having record low sales and installs. Im glad 70% of my work is ducted sold during sign-up for builders.
People don't want to part with the $$ this summer.
Reverse cycle a/c supply and install - Ducted and wall splits
Vinesh87
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Dunno, i cant manage a day
Dunno, i cant manage a day off. Hectic in the shopfit/bank jobs!
petermac
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bank jobs vinnie???
bank jobs Vinnie does that involve balaclavas ????
Swompa
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I work for an offshore
I work for an offshore drilling company, in Supply Chain and you can always tell when there is a slow down when the companies that you stopped using due to shit service call up and want to know why you are no longer ordering from them.
It is amazing that when it is busy, a company that we had a $1m account with became rubbish. We stopped using them and it took 6 months for them to call and find out what is wrong?
re-sent the complaint emails from mid year and they try to fix things.
The worst thing a supplier can do is make you look elsewhere, and find someone who needs you on their books...
Silver Fox
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Business is good..
Being a bottom feeder and selling coffee for a living is going well. Peeps won't think about not having their morning wake up hit.... Yet they'll think twice about spending on bigger items.Get em hooked on good coffee n great service makes for win win situation.
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
devhay
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You're onto a winner there
You're onto a winner there not a day goes by that I don't buy myself a coffee or two
devhay
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Yeah our company has just
Yeah our company has just downsized a fair bit and going back to our bread and butter jobs rather than the big projects that have all seemed to slow down over the last year.
The tenders all seem to be starting to come out again now though and people are starting to build again so I don't think it'll be long before the construction around Perth picks right up again
dodgy
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Could see the decline
Could see the decline happening so dropped the mining construction side and hopped over into specialised maintenance. Only 2 of us on site and the client doesn't know how to do our job so should be safe for a few years until things fire up again. 2 and 2 roster will make it a bit easier to get some fishing in and should really finish sorting the backyard out after years of working solid.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
fishcrazy
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hours cut
we got put on 7hrs a day but might get worse yet think a career change might be in order
Silver Fox
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Watch dem back yards
spent some time in mine yesterday. Ended up drinking waaay too much. Long story short the steak sammies I cooked at one o clock this morning tasted mighty fine ( everything is always a little better when you're a little toasted ) Wife took great pleasure in waking me up this morning to ask me how my late night cook up was... Hangover surprisingly good. Now where's brekkie?
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Dale
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I'm seeing more and more guys going for the same positions in OH&S these days as redundancies hit. Safety and Training departments always get culled first because they don't make companies any money, they're just a nice to have, but when push comes to shove, bye bye safety and training. I'm probably averaging 2 weeks work a month.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
petermac
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oh yes so right
all the oh&s department's go first , and why? because they are usually the blokes that cant cut it on the workshop floor . what they do is a course to get out of the workshop and turn into Minnie hittlers that spout shit they didn't believe in 2 years earlier, I always thought the useless tradesman were made planners , but now they are made safety blokes who have there safety bible in their hand
Now to the point why are OHS being got rid of , as I said at a supervisors meeting when I was at RIo "sooner or later a GM will say this OHS is out of control " he will be sacked (it happened) then I said " ten years later a GM will say OHS is out of control , he will cull them " and get praised for sawing millions of dollars it happened
Rob H
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Hope you dont hurt Adams
Hope you dont hurt Adams feelings there Peter
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Adam Gallash
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Lol
You obviously haven't read many of Peter's posts Rob.. :)
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Dale
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I've been on sites where the safety dudes are the 2nd most hated people on site. I am an OH&S professional and I refuse to be like those guys. We even have HSEQ's in our industry like that, but I get exactly the same results as they do, but I speak to people how they want to be spoken too, I don't ram crap down their throats. I don't believe in a blaming culture. My message always gets through, I've been around the block more than once, And I only got into Safety because my bodies shot after 30 odd years of pretty physical work in mining, refining and power generation.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
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Lastchance
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Didn't you get hurt on a mine
Didn't you get hurt on a mine site, Pete?
petermac
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yes i did
yes I did had the jsa , ptw , correct isolations , but if a dickhead does exacly what he is told not to do no amount of paper work will not save you (another words I said don't turn that bottle of nitrogen on until I tell you and then he turns it on then huge explosion )he was supposabley an instrument engineer with a degree from india . he was usless and nearly killed me , just ask pale ale a member of this site am I cranky yes I am , I should be at the peak of my working carrier but because of that usless F2222 I am not
petermac
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that said indian
he also pissed of back to india before my injury court case and couldn't be found , Worksafe what a useless bunch , didnt investigate, if there is a fracture or amputation at in the workplace they are supposed to investige I had over 12 fractures to my left hand and arm my left thumb was hanging on by a bit of skin and i had a shattered elbow , work safe didn't want to know even thou I reported it my self , the employer never reported it , their words to me your not dead are you (Worksafe)
GGs
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Medical research is a brutal
Medical research is a brutal profession to begin with and its only getting harder.
The majority of our money/funding comes from a federal government funding body called the NHMRC and in 2014 the national success rate for obtaining funding was 16.5%. If you are one of the lucky ones this funding generally lasts 3 years, yet you still have to apply each year to keep the lab afloat. For this reason most reasearchers have job security 3 years at a time. Scary thought when your a PhD student considering whether to dedicate your lifes work to medical research.
Im lucky enough to be in a successfull lab due to a few big names here but that still doesnt make it easy... work doesnt stop when you get home so your constantly working and the total cost of my annual scholarship is less than what my brother earns in 10 weeks on the mines.
Italsistem
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Working in civil
Working in civil construction we are not too badly placed at the moment. With MRWA being our biggest client there is always work coming out to tender on, then it is on us to win it. Nicely placed on the Kwinana Fwy widening at the moment and that will keep us safe until June at least, then hopefully going straight onto Mitchell Fwy extension if all goes well!
However have a few mates working for LOR and just got made rudundant up at Joy Hill - but that is more Samsungs / LOR's fault than the market at the mo!
strike_zone
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Safe
Not trying to take the piss to much but the speed at which roadworks are done around Perth especially the recent freeway widening work you guys jobs should be safe for years to come i still cant fathom why it takes so long
Italsistem
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A very common
A very common misconception...there is substantially more to widening a road than simply slapping down some pavement. You have service location, then rleocation, clearing & grubbing, bulk earthworks, sub base import, sub grade prep, then asphalt then roadside furniture then line marking etc etc. If it could be done quicker trust me it would be as it means we would make more money, simple as that! We will be finished out here on Kwinana by June so thats 10 months to add 2 brand new lanes including a bridge widening over a 5km stretch that includes 3 High Pressure gas mains which is you have any inkling into dealing the HP gas and Atco is no mean feet!....not too bad at all!
tot
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Hi Italisistem
How far north is the freeway extension going to get to?
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Italsistem
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Mitchell Freeway? It will
Mitchell Freeway?
It will extend from Burns Beach Rd to Hester Ave...and include upgrade to wanneroo rd.
go to www.mrwa.wa.gov.au and look it up, lot of info on it there.
sunshine
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And Atlantic Vanadium went into admin yesterday
Only the tip of the iceberg - our office sent all their small admin work to be handled offshore (phillipines) - thank goodness I only have 10 months before early retirement I really feel for those with a mortgage - scarey times that is for sure !
grantarctic1
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Last year
Last year was the worst for me in 20 years of bussiness . 3 years ago you couldn't rent a factory in Bayswater, now they are empty and rent rates are being reduced to try and get people into them.
I get 90% of my work from one client, there were 5 fabricators involved and now i'm the only one left. They all shut the doors and sold up.
I nearly packed it in myself but when the work started to come in ( nov 2014 ) I ended up having to fill the void from the other fabricators and am flat out again.
I dont understand why the economy has to be such a rollercoaster ride. It dosent seem to matter who is in government none of them can get it right. Australia should be in a great possition and have a steady economy for all, but is seems the polititions are the only ones who make a good living .
Deleted
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Saulty2
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in same situation
office space vacancy all time high & asking rental going down on a daily basis
Jayden20
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Im in need off an advamced
Im in need off an advamced scaffy but also needs to be mechanicaly minded and happy to jump on a broom if asked to
Adam Gallash
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Job and wage cuts - hiring freeze
http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/companies/mining-giant-rio-tinto-orders-wage-review-extends-hiring-freeze-as-iron-ore-price-crunch-hits/story-fnkjk9ku-1227216387178?sv=aba30271d25c0ba4f39574442033a91d
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Dale
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BP have announced today some 160 jobs being cut at Kwinana Refinery.
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Bodie
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Worth noting times are
Worth noting times are changing when it comes to oil and Petrol.
All Refineries will be turning into receiving terminals only and refinery work will be going offshore... simple matter of numbers.
Willlo
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The lower the $ drops the
The lower the $ drops the busier i get , hope it drops to 75c then i will start making more $. Got made redundant 4 yrs ago when our $ was 1.10 to US 1.00 Set up my own buisness straight away and have ridden out the bad yrs now to start making $ again.
Call Sign - BZ785
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petermac
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thats fine for you
that's good for you but blokes like me that get buggered up at work , get a pay out put it in the bank and have to live of the interest its not very good and yes heard all the storys find a good financial adviser but the truth I have seen to many people burnt by so called investment advisors
Gray
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Haven't noticed much change
Haven't noticed much change in our workload in the construction industry here in perth. Being fair and not being picky and choosey has paid dividends. Hopefully it continues
t bone
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gonna get worse yet
Im also out in the middle of the ocean on a rig searching for oil and gas and things are really hitting home with us. The 2nd largest drilling contractor in the world and we are parking rigs up all over the joint and cutbacks happening on a daily basis. best of luck to all you lads out there in the same situations, i reckon we are all going to need it, no matter what you do to earn a crust.
Swompa
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Who are you with?
Who are you with?
t bone
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at the moment
Working for ENSCO on one of their DP semi subs as a sparky.
Chris fish
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The last 3-4 months I've been
The last 3-4 months I've been getting a phone call or email a week about companies wanting me to work for them doing FIFO electrical work again and it's hasnt slowed down at all for me at any of the companies I've been working with, obviously slow patches between projects but a steady stream of wor they can't fill the places with fast enough really.
always looking for a new challenge!!
sandbar
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Really!
Its been happening for years! Everything is going offshore. I too am in oil and gas and am completely flabbergasted at what is going on. But "I" will not make difference. The government has farked us all over and wil continue to do so.
No Ticket No Heart!
Chear up boys, the worst is yet to come!
meglodon
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Roy hill
Roy hill has taken a big slap in the face according to the west aust news paper the other day, it appears that the safety on the site is real bad. I guess as has been stated above, first thing to go when things are tight is OH&S and then peoples lives are put at risk.
Some cost saving.
Dale
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A couple of years back when a person was killed at a FMG site, they turned around and sacked the safety dept. Talk about a knee jerk reaction.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
EL SYD
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My entire work crew has been
My entire work crew has been let go,
I am last man standing due to being on compo still,
Company won a major job , but will be fifo their own guys from down south.......
scubafish
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Getting a job,HA,HA!!
Try being in a same job for over 28 years,get treated like shit on the last 4 ,because they want to get rid of you so they don't have to pay redundancy then finding out you need a new knee because you wore the old one out,forced to quit.Now unemployed for 2 & half years 56yo artificial knee and no one wants to know you.
YEP!life easy.
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7739ian
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Plenty of work
here in the south west. If anyone knows a GOOD domestic irrigation installer we can use one.
sea-kem
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Oh btw ayone needs a good
Oh btw ayone needs a good steel fabricator
Love the West!
grantarctic1
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Pm sent
Sent a pm Andy regarding work .
pelagicyachts
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its just part of the cycle -
its just part of the cycle - Australia always lags the world, US is coming out of the hole - we are going into it, things will get worse, interest rates will be cut again - possibly twice but 2017 things will pick up markedly again -
20 years in the foreign exchange market and things have never been tougher - not because of the economy (volatility is good for us) but technology is replacing us - evolve or end up on the scrap heap..... i am not bad with retic....... and dont mind the south west either! ..... :-)
Swompa
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Oil and Gas
O&G will pick up again in 2016. We are bidding on a lot of new work, going into 17 and 18.
Hopefully our company gets the work or I will be redundo in three months...
t bone
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im hearing ya
Where abouts you at mate?
Swompa
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Maersk Drilling
Maersk Drilling
t bone
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on the Discoverer by any
on the Discoverer by any chance? I spent a bit of time on that a while back, rather impressive rig thats for sure.
Swompa
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I imported and Exported the
I imported and Exported the Disco. I am based onshore onshore though never went out.
Currently working in Supply Chain for Nan Hai VI for her last few months in Australia.
Justin M
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Just had to lay a few guys
Just had to lay a few guys off the other day...maintenance side of the business still cruising along however. Landscaping that is.
meglodon
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Can't fathom the Australian government out
We have some of the biggest resource fields in the world, be it iron ore or gas yet we go grovelling to companies to develop them.
Most other countries have the approach of yep there is the resource, if you want to develop it and make a squillion dollars this is the deal. You will pay ex dollars in royalties, in the case of gas some of it is reserved for the use of our countries citizens and they will pay ex dollars as the resource belongs to them, and you are not going to rip them of.
Workers for the project will be our citizens, full stop.
If they haven't got the skills required the gov or industry will pay for them to be trained up to speed, project management can be who the developer wants.
If you don't like it the "stuff" gas or iron ore stays where it is.
IMO the government (all shades) don't have the skills to drive a hard bargain for the benefit of our country.
Deleted
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enough said right there
enough said right there
Guardy
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Its not just happening in WA either
I have been doing some work for an Austrian company who make Jack Up Maintenance Platforms that attach to the legs and use their own power systems to drive up and down replacing anodes, blasting and painting and also leg extensions. With the price of oil dropping like an elevator with a broken wire there just is no work what so ever. They can only find so much work for them in the factory. What's going to happen when the oil price drops to $20 as Citibank is predicting????
neville hood
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Cant seem to get past 457
Cant seem to get past 457 visa HR and construction workers
ranmar850
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Oil price will turn around by
Oil price will turn around by the end of the year, it's just politicking by The Cartel (OPEC) Drives out the higher cost producers,(like shale oil) restores their share. Same with iron ore, Rio and BHP (more Rio) are going balls to the wall to produce and kill off competition . Unfortunately this strategy has coincided with a drop in chinese demand, but they seem determined not to blink. Really, REALLY tightening up on costs, thought (and told) it was done and dusted by the middle of last year, but feel there are now more redundancies coming. It , too will turn around--not back to the stupid prices of the previous couple of years', but to where they will feel more comfortable. FMG must really be feeling the heat--last time the price temporarily dropped to around $80/tonne, they hit the panic button. Their cost of production FOB is now down to $54/tonne (from $78) but they have a lot of debt just over the horizon.
Remember that the dropping dollar has given a lot of relief to these exporting companies, as well as the reduced freight costs due to drop in bunker oil prices. Consumer sentiment indexes show a lack of consumer confidence, which just reflects in 'discretionary" spending. People are paying down their debt instead, which is wise, but doesn't help the general economy.
And after all the above, why am I seeing so many $80-$100 K boats being bought :-), and people buying $2K fishfinders?
t bone
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Soo Shiny
Speaking for myself, the only reason i got a nice boat on the way was the paperwork and all the hard yards were done mid last yr whilst all was rainbows & unicorns. Now reality has set in again, im starting to think maybe i should of stuck with the old boat a bit longer.
Dale
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I do a lot of work over at Karara and I've got no idea how they are still operating, it is costing them way over what it the ore is worth at present
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
Rob H
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yep and that flows on Dale, I
yep and that flows on Dale, I do a bit of work on the local tugs and if Karara shuts, off goes one of the tugs with the crews
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Ben85
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I'm also in the O&G game and
I'm also in the O&G game and can see the next couple years being very tough in Aus. Our operation has been shut down and I'm relocating back to Dubai in the next couple months.
In any case, this down turn in oil price will probably give our local market the clean out its needed for a while.
t bone
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dead wood
I imagine a lot of companies are using this as a chance to clean all the dead wood out for sure... Times like this we all learn if we are as good as we really think we are ;)
What project back in aussie were you at mate?
Ben85
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no particular project mate,
no particular project mate, I'm in Tendering (subsea construction)
Bodie
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Like others, I was made
Like others, I was made redundant as well just before Christmas. Whole IT department in Perth was off shored to Asia, along with my role (IT Manager)
Now looking for a new job, but job market is not the best at present.
meglodon
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Can't follow line of thinking
I'm going to show a bit of ignorance about how the economy works so if I'm looking at the current job situation in real simple terms please give me a bit of slack, here goes.
If companies lay off lots of workers to keep profitability up, those laid of workers don't have a lot of funds for spending on goodies. We don't buy the toys anymore.
Companies don't need to make lots of toys for the boys, lay off workers
Back to para 2
How do you break this cycle.
Rob H
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By dropping interest rates
By dropping interest rates to stimulate investment
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
sea-kem
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They haven't got far to go
They haven't got far to go Rob regards interest rates. Tax cuts for small business owners like mine who are the backbone of the economy. I would go out and invest in new machinery tomorrow if I knew my tax wasn't going to rape me every three months.
Love the West!
petermac
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are you talking
are you talking about bass statements my brother in law recons he spends at least 15 hours a month doing battle with it
grantarctic1
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Yes
Yes the BAS is an absolute pain in the arse for small bussiness , all we are doing is using our time to collect, document and pass on government tax money, on goods that have already been taxed 3 times.
And at the election that saw Gillard not voted in but somehow got in ? . The one promise she made to small bussiness was to give a 1% tax relief that she quickly revoked after securing her position stating " the country just cant afford it in the current ecconomy "
Swompa
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In reality, the government
In reality, the government needs to make imports a less feasible option. When I can buy steel in Singapore for 1/3 of the price of local, what do you expect me to do. The country will one day be a nation of freight forwarders and customs agents...
petermac
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pilbara housing
saw on a current affair tonight a house in Headland that sold for 1.4 mill 4 years ago was passed in at auction at 360k on the weekend , that's a big haircut in any ones terms , my mate bought in headland 3 years ago paid 1 mill and is now clamping his arse checks together
dodgy
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Don't believe everything you
Don't believe everything you hear. Makes a good headline though.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
catchalittle
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Be a government private
Be a government private special security contractor and with the current events your never out of work
Nathan
meglodon
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your so right
It's a sad indictment of our times but you are so right, what a sorry state of affairs we are living in.
BarraSlayer
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Economy is stuffed cause
Economy is stuffed cause 30-40% of income is tied up in bricks and mortar.. Banks making a killing. Everyone else is scratching to meet the interest rate on their mortgage. Government is addicted to the stamp duty it makes. Half a million for a house.... When do you have changed to buy goods and services and support small businesses which are the biggest employers in this country.
We flogged off manufacturing and bet everything on mining and don't have much to show for it. Big corporations have skinned us.
My personal opinion is that when unemployment gets worse (this is the start) the highly leveraged will loose their shirts.
Mining not going to well in WA, back two years ago 1500 people were moving here a week and now they are competing for an ever diminishing pool of jobs. All about changing rosters and pay cuts now.
Rant over
Cheers
BarraSlayer
Swompa
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Got a letter from my company
Got a letter from my company on Monday. 0% pay rise and $0 bonus for 2015...
Funny how they couldn't send enough letters talking about how much money they were making in 2013. I guess they spent it all elsewhere...
big john
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Bonus
The one bonus with my job is that there will always be kids coming to school. Not the greatest pay, but good holidays and a few other perks.
WA based manufacturer and supplier of premium leadhead jigs, fligs, bucktail jigs, 'bulletproof' soft plastic jig heads and XOS bullet jig heads.
Jigs available online in my web store!
catchalittle
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Big John your looking after
Big John your looking after the next generation
Nathan
Jason M
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Hard Question
Alot of this talk seems to be about the resources industry and presumably mostly fifo workers. Now dont get me wrong you guys works damn hard for the big bucks with long hrs in tough places with long periods away from the family. My old man has done it for decades. The question is,if the resource industry goes belly up how many of you would be willing to go back to a job in Perth on 60-80 grand a year? An average Aussie wage. Could you do it? Or has spending gottten out of control? This is what some people will have to ask themselves if the going gets tough.
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Date Joined: 26/04/14
did my 3 years and walked
did my 3 years and walked away 9 months ago. taken a goverment job paying less then the pay you state but at least its not going anywhere in a hurry. got a lot of mates that are up the old provervial. i did 3 years 0 days off 0 sick leave taken and maximum saved and paid off. sacrificed the first 3 years of my sons life to make us better off, tough time for me but iam making up for it now. i wish all you boys that get laid of all the best and suggest that while you still work you plan a rainy day account to help when the crunch lands.
good luck boys and girls stay strong and dont become a stat, there will be an end date things will turn for the good.
Dale
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I would Jason, I'm trying for one now, but so is a lot of others.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
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Jason M
Posts: 46
Date Joined: 14/12/14
Thats it gilly
If you are going to do fifo and sacrifice the family life you want to have somthing to show for it ( pay off the house, get some savings or hell, even a nice new boat) But it seems alot of people piss it up and start spending like theres no tomorrow and when they are laid off its panic stations with big debts and no way to sort their shit on anything like an average wage. Dents the pride a bit to not be able to afford that new HSV or Boston Whaler but hey, just gotta wind it back a bit.
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dent the pride yes, hope the
dent the pride yes, hope the ones that have can tough it out. i feel that perth city will take of when these lads come home. dont think its the end of the world boys there is work in perth present and future, just a hit to the pay packet.
Jason M
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Date Joined: 14/12/14
We live in a privledged place
I hope for nothing but good luck for everybody. WA is a great place to live with lots of opportunities and what we call tough times doesnt rate a mention in most countries so if you are doing well, plan a bit for the future. If your not doing the best right now, chin up and keep positive. WA is still doing very well and there will be something out there for you.