imo ya lose most of your fish because of the trebles and most people these days take trebles off lures and put singles on because of the better landing rate
If you are targeting catch and release, then trebles are a bad idea IMO.....after listening to Peter Pakula the other night, I now squash the barbs on my singles when jigging for amber/sambo to minimise harm to the fish, and any loss is an error by the fisherman as pressure is not maintained....as my young bloke found out yesterday.....
It really depends on what you're chasing. Japs use trebles on jigs for chasing pelagic fish coz these type of fish like to target their prey from behind, and usually have small mouths with thick bones inside its mouth. Trebles offer more hook points for better hookup rate.
For sambo and other dermesal jigging, best to go with jigging hooks. You can go double single assist hooks. What I find is dermesals and the seriola (sambos, ambos, ytk) family of fish tend to swipe the jig from the side or go for head shots, hence the assist hook from the top of the jig.
I wouldn't bother, some of the charters wouldn't even let them onboard. The charters are planning on catching the same fish all season, so anything that messes them up, is frowned upon. As a few of the other guys pointed out, its not necessary with sambos or ajs.
i dont know may be "just " sambos but i have had plety of days when ive been getting the odd hit with no hook up ,you cant critisize someone for throwing an idea forward or having a go with something new can you?
I'm merely pointing out that sambos are not finicky feeders or require any special magic.
I don't know what experience hekser has with them, but if you're getting bumps and no hookup, I'd be working on my action or jig selection, not make my jig bristle with barbs.
Yeah till is right mate, if your really worried about not getting as many hook ups just run normal twin assists, but even then it is pretty unnecessary for sambos.
My experience is that if the sambo doesn't hook up the first time they will always come back for a second go. Had one come right up to the surface once. Hit the jig a few times before it was hooked. Trebles IMO should only be used if the fish is going to be kept. They can do heaps more damage to a fish than an assit hook. Plus they can be a pain getting out so why would you bother?
Sizing hooks for jigs is a little different to sizing hooks for bait fishing. The gape has to not catch on the jig, or you have to use stiffy rigs, or catch protectors. I think there was a previous thread about it and Shout! Kudako in 6/0 was considered a good size?
Jigging is a lot of fun and the sambos is a world-class fishery, so make sure you get out and have a go!
grayzeee
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sounds like a bad idea. not
sounds like a bad idea. not necessary. i hadn't heard of anyone doing it myself.
If I spent half as long fishing , as I do reading this bloody forum , I'd be twice the fisherman I am.
SamC
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I have seen hardcore Jap
I have seen hardcore Jap jiggers that run a treble off the bottom of their jigs!
They seem to swear by it, but it's not for me..
Cheers,
Sam
Dreamtime
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meh!
imo ya lose most of your fish because of the trebles and most people these days take trebles off lures and put singles on because of the better landing rate
till
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Singles all the way! Much
Singles all the way! Much safer boatside handling, much less damage to the fish and far fewer thrown hooks.
DazSamFishing
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As Sam mentioned, some
As Sam mentioned, some Japanese jiggers run trebles on the bottom of the jig in pelagic rich waters. Doggies specifically.
JohnF
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If you are targeting catch
If you are targeting catch and release, then trebles are a bad idea IMO.....after listening to Peter Pakula the other night, I now squash the barbs on my singles when jigging for amber/sambo to minimise harm to the fish, and any loss is an error by the fisherman as pressure is not maintained....as my young bloke found out yesterday.....
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Trebles on jigs....
It really depends on what you're chasing. Japs use trebles on jigs for chasing pelagic fish coz these type of fish like to target their prey from behind, and usually have small mouths with thick bones inside its mouth. Trebles offer more hook points for better hookup rate.
For sambo and other dermesal jigging, best to go with jigging hooks. You can go double single assist hooks. What I find is dermesals and the seriola (sambos, ambos, ytk) family of fish tend to swipe the jig from the side or go for head shots, hence the assist hook from the top of the jig.
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hekser
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guess ill stick with singles
might give a treble a try tho. compare results
till
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I wouldn't bother
I wouldn't bother, some of the charters wouldn't even let them onboard. The charters are planning on catching the same fish all season, so anything that messes them up, is frowned upon. As a few of the other guys pointed out, its not necessary with sambos or ajs.
hekser
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wondering
wondering how these would go? http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/73000239/Images/9/WDAHR02-802PS__1.JPG
till
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Geez mate they're sambos,
Geez mate they're sambos, they're as thick as blowfish when they're firing, you're thinking about it all a bit hard.
brenz
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samby
i dont know may be "just " sambos but i have had plety of days when ive been getting the odd hit with no hook up ,you cant critisize someone for throwing an idea forward or having a go with something new can you?
till
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I'm merely pointing out that
I'm merely pointing out that sambos are not finicky feeders or require any special magic.
I don't know what experience hekser has with them, but if you're getting bumps and no hookup, I'd be working on my action or jig selection, not make my jig bristle with barbs.
schecky
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Yeah till is right mate, if
Yeah till is right mate, if your really worried about not getting as many hook ups just run normal twin assists, but even then it is pretty unnecessary for sambos.
Indiana
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Limited experience
Only been jigging the once a few weeks back and we never missed a hookup ,both the sambo's and amber jacks really hit the jig's hard.
Certainly no need to use trebles , which is a better result for both the fish and fishermen.
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Seaquest
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My experience is that if the
My experience is that if the sambo doesn't hook up the first time they will always come back for a second go. Had one come right up to the surface once. Hit the jig a few times before it was hooked. Trebles IMO should only be used if the fish is going to be kept. They can do heaps more damage to a fish than an assit hook. Plus they can be a pain getting out so why would you bother?
hekser
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i have been jigging once....
just asking questions... did anyone see the last hook config i pasted -
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/73000239/Images/9/WDAHR02-802PS__1.JPG im liking that but would it work?
cheers for your opinions guys
till
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Its a marlin rig. I made my
Its a marlin rig. I made my comments about overthinking it after I saw that!
hekser
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lol. k cheers
it said gamehook , but yer.. im still new to the big fish thing... im used to catching river fish...
thanks for the quick answer Till. single assist hook it is.. im thinking 7/0 - good size?
till
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Sizing hooks for jigs is a
Sizing hooks for jigs is a little different to sizing hooks for bait fishing. The gape has to not catch on the jig, or you have to use stiffy rigs, or catch protectors. I think there was a previous thread about it and Shout! Kudako in 6/0 was considered a good size?
Jigging is a lot of fun and the sambos is a world-class fishery, so make sure you get out and have a go!
Markie
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i say put one assist on.
i say put one assist on. Would not want to know what a double hookup of sambos feels like
hekser
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ahah
especially if they were horses like the ones u pulled up the other day :D