Watch this story evolve
A very interesting story is going to develop over the next couple of days, the subject of which has been discussed many many times on F/W.
The story is about just what can you do if you find some piece of human excrement stealing, or attempting to steal some of your property. On channel 7 news tonight there was a story about a person being caught trying to break into a residence and being detained by (I believe 3 men).
During the altercation to detain/stop the house breaker he sustained serious head injuries and as a result is in Perth Hospital.
One of the people who assisted in detaining the would be house breaker until the police arrived has been charged with GBH. That's the very basics of the story as I understand it.
Now, quite a few times people have had their property stolen and reported it on this forum and also insinuated just what they would like to do to the thief if they caught him in the act.
Basically the law (as I understand it) says that reasonable force may be used to stop/detain the thief if they are confronted/discovered breaking into your property.
It will be very interesting to see just what constitutes "reasonable force" and exactly just what happened when the person was confronted
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sandbar
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Ohhh Yeah!
If one was to deal with an offender vigilante style justice then one would not want to be identified. If one does deliver the deserved justice to the offender and detains till police arrive then one would want a few "resisting arrest" wounds.
I think it's bullshit myself that ol mates getting charged with GBH but as I said, if your dishing out a bit of self imposed justice then Don't Get Caught! Otherwise you end up facing criminal charges and the offender can then counter sue. And imagine there is not enough evidence for a conviction of the said offender...
Our JustIce system is a farce.
Rob H
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wasnt there 2 incidences
wasnt there 2 incidences last year similar, where the "offender" died or was seriously hurt?
Possibly we need "stand your ground" laws as in some US states, where you do not need to retreat from an intruder, to determine them as hostile.
http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/man-dies-after-confrontation-with-homeowner-in-lockridge/news-story/81bef5979cc96bcd62836f3a8971b3b4
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https://au.news.yahoo.com/the
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/wa/a/31089797/man-charged-after-burglar-suffers-serious-head-injuries/
With the benefit of hindsight in the event of accidently causing injury to a intruder it may well be better to not notify authorities and instead put your Winston Wolfe hat on ..
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sea-kem
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Yep beat the shit out of the
Yep beat the shit out of the prick and dump him on the street as a mate of mine did years ago. Saves a lot of headaches and paperwork for you and the coppers.
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rob90
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So long as the bloke aint
So long as the bloke aint gonna die from his injuries dont think you should dump a guy with serious head injuries, busted knee caps and broken nose
. Bit shit the situation this bloke finds himself in now. But goes to show the justice system protects the crims.
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sea-kem
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Nah just a good painful beat
Nah just a good painful beat will suffice. And kick their arse so hard they can't sit down for a month.
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smash him then dump him
Was told that by a cop himself after my place got done over. I'd still dump the piece of shit over the road even if he had head injuries and nearly dead. Fuck em
rob90
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If we get pulled over
If we get pulled over speeding, cop says if you werent speeding you wouldnt get a fine. So If you werent trying to steal peoples hard earnt belongings for a hit of smack you wouldnt need to spend the rest of your life as a vegetable. Leaving someone for dead isnt rite imo, letting them suffer in a bit of pain that will eventually heal to re think there actions im all for. Ive heard cops say it too i definately havent herd them say almost kill em then dump em.
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barracuda
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Yes correct
As sea-kem said, it is the only way to do it. Exactly as I was told by the law
randall df223
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The individual charged with
The individual charged with GBH has a defence if he was genuinely in fear of himself or his colleague suffering GBH or death.
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uncle
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Is this the one where a taxi driver got the
Wrong address.dropped of a total drunk bloke who had no idea where he was and was then set hammered, had the photos on the news
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randall df223
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I'm not sure what the
I'm not sure what the circumstances are in this matter uncle. Just saying that if someone breaks into your house, you are allowed to defend yourself or other people with necessay reasonable force. If you genuinely fear death or GBH to yourself or another, you have a legal defence if you cause death or GBH to the intruder.
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uncle
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if its the one I think it is
the one charged with GBH could be in trouble,the one last night on the news was beaten to a pulp
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Dale
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And as I've said before, make sure your wallet is in the pricks back pocket when mr plod arrives.
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What happens if you have dogs and they do a number on the intruder and the owner doesn't do anything to stop them.
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Full circle karma, I guess
Full circle karma, I guess .
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nightfish
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Not responsible
if the person is on your property whilst commuting a crime. As long as you have taken reasonable steps to protect the general public. This means if the dog gets em before they break in, smash a window to prove a crime took place
petermac
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good question
mate of mine had two rotties that were very protctive of him and his property , he had some indigous boys break in to his place in willage , and the mutts took to them , cops called turned up and and followed the trail of blood down the street untill they found them kackered sitting on the curb , dont worry about the dogs attacking them no different to one of our dogs chewing an offender up the coppers said , a month later he was hit with a court summons ,for using excesive force , yes got chucked out but why oh why did he have to go through that process , compaint made by the offenders is my guess
Simmo
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I have two large German
I have two large German Shepherds. Not sure I'd be able to stop them, even if I wanted to.
Michael Yoni
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This is well deserved. More
This is well deserved. More so.
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/world/a/31104618/dad-savagely-beats-alleged-paedophile-after-rescuing-his-daughter-from-attack-in-public-toilet/
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I don't know how I'd not go
I don't know how I'd not go AMerican History X on him
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
uncle
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can't argue with that
piece of scum should get a lot more then that.I wouldn't have been aiming for his head!
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beachsoul
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when i go out to front thieves
I carry a big stick........I don,t know how crazy or messed up they are. Or if they are carrying a weapon.
Its dark their is a prowler, im in fear for my life and that of my family......that is a given.
Hit with a stick at the first hint of aggression and deal with the flak later. Why should we risk being injured by feral scum.
chris raff
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This is what we’re up
This is what we’re up against this with the soft c**k approach to the bad guys this oxygen thief’s been given bail .. 58yr old teacher caught red handed videotaping kids in the school toilet , 1st offence apparently ( YEAH RIGHT ) . I seriously doubt that , hope he gets put away will be interesting to see how that evolves as well
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-14/teacher-on-charges-of-secretly-filming-students-getting-dressed/7245618
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uncle
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No case to
Answer.
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I'd myself invite them
I'd myself invite them fishing if I found someone in my home. First stop be the middle of the trench
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lol
all jokes of ....dogs......fishing etc aside
I just want the punishment (whether dished out by courts or "instant justice") to be fitting for the crime.
So sick of the courts not doing their job......that being JUSTICE.
uncle
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Like the dick who took video
Of the girls in the disabled change room, first offence see you later, bet theres a few Dads want to meet up with him, arsehole!
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I heard today that the bloke
I heard today that the bloke recons he wasn't trying to break into the house and thought it was his new house.
He had apparently been out on the piss and caught a taxi home. The taxi however dropped the guy off in the wrong street and as this bloke had only just boaught the house got a bit lost and I guess thought it was his house.....must have been pretty pissed !!
The result is that one or more of the three has been charged with GBH ....just what the radio said today.
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uncle
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Could be in
Trouble
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Scotte
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Meglodon have you got your
Meglodon have you got your facts right? The bloke who was bashed is a good guy no chance hes trying to break in..only muppet here is the hot headed guy who assaulted him and all the muppets who have wrongly broadcast incorrect information(that he was trying to break in)
uncle
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On the money maggot
By the look of the bloke charged he would have though I can get away with beating the shit out of this bloke as a few on here have indicated. Gotta be sure
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Bodie
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Throw the guy who in charged
Throw the guy who in charged with GBH in jail.
Sounds like the typical hit first ask questions later. If the guy was heavily intoxicated chances are he would have not been much of a threat and you would have found that out pretty quickly too
there is a time and place for using force and only a dimwit can't tell when that is
petermac
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your kidding arnt you
i have an exlrelmly large moari bloke living next door to me and has two equaliy big sons (one in the australian under 19 rugby league team) if they catch some one even if they are pissed trying trying to brake into my house i know they would dish out a world of pain to the offender , it was scary having them all over to mine to watch the world cup rugby final last year haha
sandbar
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Well this story surely evolved
Didn't see that coming.
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Got to love a story with a
Got to love a story with a good twist at the end
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sea-kem
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Well you can thank the media
Well you can thank the media for beating this one up. I can see why everyone is hot headed and on edge with this type of thing because we are all sick and tired of being thieved from and all the other shit crime to go with it. Who know's maybe more evolving for this story yet.
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meglodon
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How's that for an ending
The way the story is now according to channel 7 news is briefly, guy is drunk gets dropped off at wrong address by taxi driver.
The guy who is drunk goes wondering around trying to find out just where the hell he is, a couple of guys acting too quick of the mark think he is attempting to break into a residence and one really gives the geographically confused drunk a terrible hiding.
Hmm that's the way I see the story ending.
This is not going to end good for a couple of people, one is in hospital and another is up on a GBH charge.