What's this, please??

Hi All

Just come back from a day out off Mandurah looking for some whiting around the five fathom bank. No luck with the whiting, but we did catch some parrot fish, wrasse and rock cod, all released, including this one. It was approx. 30cm long and as you can see, large spikes, bulging eyes and wing-like side fins.

We caught another one later, this time it was very red on its underbelly...it too, went back.

 

My first thought was a gurnard, but after googling it, couldn't find anything that looked like this one.

 

Your thoughts on this would be appreciated....any any thoughts on finding some suitable whiting ground around the FFB would also be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

regards

rusty...

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Think scorpion fish not 100%

Sun, 2010-11-28 16:03

Think scorpion fish not 100%

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Spot on

Sun, 2010-11-28 16:04

Your guess was spot on, its a gurnard perch and those lovely looking spikes can deliver a very nasty sting that can require medical attention

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Gurnard perch

Sun, 2010-11-28 16:24

Thanks carnarvonite

 

I suppose you're now going to tell me how nice they taste on the bbq with some lemon??

 

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Some

Sun, 2010-11-28 16:29

Some ppl love them including my son but I reckon its not worth the pain if you get a sting and let them have the hook as a facial peircing and send them on their way.

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Gurnard perch

Sun, 2010-11-28 17:04

Thanks carnarvonite

 

I suppose you're now going to tell me how nice they taste on the bbq with some lemon??

 

regards

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Yeh its a scorpion fish

Sun, 2010-11-28 17:05

dont get stung!!

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Sorry about that....

Sun, 2010-11-28 17:05

Pressed the wrong button....

 

I don't do pain very well so I'll probably stay clear of them, thanks.

 

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there is a way to avoid the

Sun, 2010-11-28 17:23

there is a way to avoid the spines and they are great tasting but for the size of them you dont get a lot of meat off them. if your going to keep one , do  not put them with other fish . that way you have no chance of getting stung while pulling the other fish out of the esky

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Got a better way

Mon, 2010-11-29 16:20

Faulkners, grab the Gurnards gob with a set of long nose pliers and pin it to the gunnel of your boat. Then with a sharp knife cut the dorsal spines/fins off the top of the fish and then remove all other spines/fins. Now there's nothing to be spiked with and you can deal with them easily.

Old trick used my many old fella's down here (Geo bay) where we catch heaps of these Gurnards

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a pair of side cutters would

Mon, 2010-11-29 16:35

a pair of side cutters would be a bit safer. that way you cant slip with the knife . always used side cutters for cobbler.

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If your

Mon, 2010-11-29 16:49

holding the fishes mouth with the pliers so the fishes mouth is facing you and your basically scalping the top off the fish (cutting away from your body) to remove the spines i'm not sure how you could possibly cut yourself? Takes 20 secs, side cutters would take a monthUndecided

I've done it a few times myself and as long as the knife is sharp it's easy as. Good trickWink

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nice pic

Sun, 2010-11-28 17:55

very nice photo of the fish :) usually there more red ;)

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nah no scorpion fish

Sun, 2010-11-28 18:05

nah no scorpion fish carnavonite is spot on with the gurnard perch old man got spiked by 1 a while back

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Took the photo myself

Sun, 2010-11-28 18:12

Holding the fish in my left hand by the bottom jaw, camera set to macro, hey presto!

 

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from Fishwreckapedia

Mon, 2010-11-29 01:53


 

Western Red Scorpionfish - Scorpaena sumptuosa

Western Red Scorpionfish have a deep body and can be bright red, red/brown or light brown with darker blotches and markings. There may be a black spot at the end of the first dorsal fin. They have 12 venomous dorsal spines which cause painful wounds, severity depending on the size of the fish and the depth of penetration.

Western Red Scorpionfish grow to about 40cms.

They are considered very good eating however caution is advised.

Western Red Scorpionfish are endemic to Western Australia, from Esperance to Quobba.



 
  Gurnard Perch - Neosebastus pandus

Gurnard Perch have a relatively large, rounded head and slender body which base colour varies from pale olive green to dark brown with cream, the belly area generally being orange - red.  Small black spots are often present on the head and body.  They have a large spotted pectoral fin reaching past the start of the anal fin. The third dorsal spine is the longest - a diagnostic tool.

Juveniles have two vertical black bands on their tail fin.  Older fish have small black spots.

Gurnard Perch grow to 50cms in length.

The flesh is very good eating however care must be taken as the 13 dorsal fin spines are venomous.

They are found from the Abrolhos Islands WA south around to Kangaroo Island South Australia.

 

 

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Creepy lookin critter you

Mon, 2010-11-29 03:17

Creepy lookin critter you have there. We get some strange looking ones ourselves here as well.

 

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Looks like a moongazer?

Mon, 2010-11-29 06:43

Looks like a moongazer?

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stargazer

Mon, 2010-11-29 11:48

stargazer methinks

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Northern cousin

Mon, 2010-11-29 15:15

Looks like a Darwin Jawfish but the stripes on its tail are horizontal not vertical, thats the closest I can get to Id'ing it.

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monkfish

Tue, 2010-11-30 00:59

"Strange Fish

Can you tell me what kind of fish this is. It was caught in South Padre Island Texas, but no one knows what it is.

It kinda looks like a monk fish. If you can help me with this it would be greatly appreciated

Thank you L. Matthews

Pic : A great photo of a monkfish

Monkfish - Stargazer

ED : It is a monk fish, and is also known as a stargazer. These fish are closely related to angler fish.They bury themselves so only the eyes protrude from the sand and await an unwary small fish to pass close by. They then open their upturned mouth so quickly that the fish is sucked in completely.

In New Zealand we have two common species the spotted stargazer which lives in shallow water and grows to around two pounds and the giant stargazer which grows to around 20 lbs and is a uniform green colour. I used to catch a lot of the giant stargazers in set nets around 10 miles north of the Mokohinau Islands in water 130 metres deep when I was commercial fishing. They usually only take live or moving baits."

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Stargazer/moongazer - some

Tue, 2010-11-30 06:21

Stargazer/moongazer - some fish that its into astronomy - I was close ;)

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thanks gtot one awhile back

Tue, 2010-11-30 17:31

thanks gtot one awhile back but didnt know wat it was