Fishing Discussion

General Fishing Chat

Bill Dance Classic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYWZR10l9Vk if you can watch this and not laugh you need to invest a sense of humourLaughing


sick of seabreeze

Is there anyone else who is sick of seabreeze getting the weather wrong? Went snapper fishing last night as they were forecasting south westerlies in the 10-15 knot mark which is great for snapper but ended up getting out to the fishing spot to find it was blowing north easterlies. How could they get it so wrong, it was the complete opposite to what they were saying all week.


Advice Needed. - Charter Boat Fishing

Hey guys, my dad's gonna be over and I was thinking of teaching him how to wet a line here in Perth. Im not much of a bigtime boat fisherman, actually havent even been offshore fishing before so I would love to know if there is any point in going offshore druing the middle of August and what charter is good. I live in Perth so Exxy is defs outta the way for me. Thanks!


Sharks at hillarys

hey all,

havent really chased sharks too much but heard that hillarys is generally pretty good for it.

just wondering where abouts at hillarys you've been having the best luck? left/right of marina?

 

thanks :)


advice needed; all rounder boat rod

hey, my mate recently bought a boat so i need to get a boat rod. Im looking for something that can handle a bit of everything (if thats possible), to be paired with my torium 30. Looking for something fairly cheap but not too crappy maybe like $100-$150 and happy with second hands if anyone has something appropriate going?

I dont know a thing about boat fishing so any advice appreciated.
Cheers


a good clip

from the old days.When they did it the hard wayLaughinghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp_Rs75-5vI


Who's on the water tomorrow

Steve taking Colin and myself and maybe one more if he can make it, To do some bottom bouncing hope the fish want to play tomorrow

GOOD LUCK ALL


Help Needed

I need to buy a heavy duty Battery Power Pack, can anyone recommend a good one ?cheers Pete.


crony master bream

one i got on tuesday went hard on the flats . other than that lost a horse at the boat when it decided to run past the kota wich i didnt expect lol.

brenz


PRODIGY TAILOR

Well the forecasters were a bit off and the predicted southwesterly didn't really come in. In fact it was hardly blowing at all where I went for a quick tailor session this arvo.

The fishing wasn't as good as I had hoped - but I did manage this solid tailor of about 50 cm on the 9 foot Prodigy rod I have been trying out.

The rod handled the job with aplomb - in fact using the lighter gear probably set this fish off as he was aerobatic pretty much all the way to the beach.

Even though the fishing wasn't as hot as I had hoped it was a good evening top be out for a fish - even with the constant drizzle.

Through there was the occassional bits of sunshine.


Greenie NPA Policy on Fishing National Parks

Look at the NPA policy on fishing wildlife reserves, we so have to get a fishing candidate in this election, they are now playing with definitions to kick us out.

 

INTRODUCTION Fishing (as defined below) is a form of hunting. As hunting and collecting are not permitted in terrestrial national parks and nature reserves under the National Parks and Wildlife Act (1974)(as amended) or under the Wilderness Act (1987), there is no logical reason for permitting fishing in any aquatic or marine parks or extensions of these reserves. NPA seeks complete compliance with the accepted IUCN definition of a national park (1969): ".... where the highest competent authority of the country has taken steps to prevent or eliminate as soon as possible exploitation (our emphasis) or occupation in the whole area ....". Fishing is exploitation. It interferes with both nature itself and other peoples' enjoyment of it. Fishing in marine national parks, marine nature reserves, and marine recreation areas is covered by a separate, but similar, NPA policy: MARINE NATIONAL PARKS, MARINE NATURE RESERVES, AND MARINE RECREATION AREAS. DEFINITIONS * Fishing. For the purposes of this policy, "fishing" means the commercial or recreational catching, taking, or removal, by any means, of any aquatic or marine animal life, whether free-swimming or sedentary. * Fish. For the purposes of this policy, "fish" means all aquatic or marine animal life. * Exotic fish. Foreign, introduced, not native fish, e.g. European carp, Loach, Pacific Oysters. * National parks and nature reserves are as provided for under the National Parks and Wildlife Act (1974)(as amended). * Wilderness is as provided for under the Wilderness Act (NSW 1987). POLICY 1. Fishing (as defined above) should not be permitted in national parks, nature reserves, or wilderness; whether in fresh, brackish, or marine waters; and whether commercial or otherwise, with the following exceptions: 1.1 Aboriginals, where the land concerned is owned by the local Aboriginal group to which they belong; for sustenance only; and with conditions and limits;, and using methods laid down by the National Parks and Wildlife Service of NSW. Limits should include a prohibition on the taking of endangered species. 1.2 Research, where no other location is satisfactory for the purpose, and capture, killing, or interference with native flora and fauna, is essential to that purpose, and providing it is authorised by the NPWS and in accordance with conditions laid down by the NPWS. 2. The National Parks and Wildlife Act should be amended to include fish (as defined here) and fish products, in the Act's definition of "fauna", and to provide for the prohibition of fishing in national parks and nature reserves. Similarly, the Wilderness Act should be amended to provide for the prohibition of fishing. 3. Where the National Parks and Wildlife Service Estate or wilderness is adjacent to marine or estuarine waters, its boundary should extend to Mean Low Water Mark, in order to give the NPWS full permanent authority over the intertidal area. Until this is effected, the NPWS should be given trusteeship over the area, with full management powers. 4. All streams, lakes, lagoons, wetlands and other water bodies situated within the National Parks and Wildlife Service Estate or in wilderness, should, both waters and beds, be made parts of those reserves or wilderness. 5. The NPWS, in consultation with NSW Fisheries, should investigate ways of removing exotic fish from waters enclosed by national parks, nature reserves, or wilderness, without a significant impact upon native fauna, flora, or ecosystems. Subsequent removal of exotic fish should be undertaken or supervised by NPWS itself. EXPLANATORY NOTES Clause 1: It should be remembered that other environmental policies have taken time to be generally accepted, such as opposition to the killing of koalas, whales and dolphins, and logging and clearance of rainforests. National parks are, according to international agreement endorsed by Australia and its States, very specific in their nature and purposes. They are reserved for the complete protection of whole natural environments, conserving all wildlife and living systems, and admitting recreation only of a kind which has minimal effects upon the maintenance of natural conditions and human enjoyment of them. As they occupy so little of the State's land area (about 1/20th of NSW), and serve so vital a function, their integrity should be zealously maintained, and no one should seek to compromise between truly appropriate recreation and crass exploitation by permitting a sport harvesting of natural resources within them. Where, other than these special places, can one go to escape man's incessant interference? This is not simply a case of impacting upon nature, but also of denying us the right of some undiminished delight in nature. Clause 1.1: European man's drastic superimposition of impact on the natural state of Australia over that of the Aboriginal has, as everyone knows, resulted in many animal species becoming extinct or endangered. Any hunting, whether terrestrial or aquatic, therefore represents a potential threat, and restrictions must be applied and observed. Aboriginals, having largely adopted the white man's ways and his more advantageous transport facilities (4WD vehicles, etc.) and weapons (guns), can hardly be expected to return to traditional hunting on foot or in canoes with spears. Therefore, they too must accept restriction, even in their own lands. Even so, we accept that some Aboriginal hunting (including fishing) should be permitted within national parks (etc.) within those lands, the conditions and limits being set by the National Parks and Wildlife Service. Clauses 3 and 4: With few exceptions, the seaward or estuarine boundary of NSW coastal national parks and nature reserves is Mean High Water Mark. For many years environmentalists have been asking for the addition of the intertidal area or strip, i.e. between MHWM and MLWM, to the National Parks and Wildlife Service Estate, so that the NPWS could assume full management powers, and thus be enabled to control, and preferably prohibit, motor vehicles on the strip, along with the rest of the beach. The removal of motor vehicles from the whole of an NPWS beach is highly desirable. A similar situation exists in regard to waterways enclosed within NPWS land, where the Maritime Services Board, not the NPWS, has control over boat usage. It would be highly desirable that these waters be added to the NP&W Estate, giving the NPWS power to control and, hopefully, prohibit the use of motor craft, which would assist in the prohibition of fishing.


any ground behind the Five Fathom Bank

any one no any sites on the net were i can look at the charts off cockburn/rockingham.....was thinking of going CPBC early morning but i only have a 16 footer and would like to go a bit further than the five fathom bank but dont want to go tooooooo far!!!any suggestions?


balloon rig

hey guys im thinking of balooning for the 1st time some time next week when the easterly blows for sharks and anything els that cums along

Q.1. what rig. set up do i use im thinking justg a long leader say 100 lb with a big gang or sneel with a live herring or tailor on if i get any or just scaily macks with the baloon just floating on top of the water becouse im not using helium.

Q.2. im thinking of heading to madurah way and fish off the rocks i found a nice spot would there be any sharks or big fish there at night with this baloon rig and whats the best bait to use cherz guys


WARM UP YOUR ARSENAL TAILOR HUNTERS

To all you landbased anglers who like to chase big tailor and salmon - this evening should really be prime time.

For the first time in ages there is a perfect south westerly forecast to be hitting the metro area this afternoon - and the reports are that the big tailor and salmon have been on the bite.

I know I will be hitting it up as soon as I can get out of the office.

I have my gear ready to go in the back of my car.


Friday Funnys

 

Enjoy Smile


question from my dad about rivers in karratha and sorrunds

dad works in the mines in karratha  and he goes to the rivers every second sunday

 

his question is he keeps catching catfish and wants to know if its more beneficial to use floating mulies or something like those


helium

Hi All,

 

Does anyone know where I can get well priced helium in perth, perhaps 80l jobs? any info would be awesome

 

chesky


Calamari Classic

When is the next competition? Does anyone know?


Whats the go on Saturday?

What does everyone think about the weather for a fish off FFB on Saturday? Seabreeze says its okay, but has been way off before - wind is howling here at Safety bay ATM??


metro snapper tonight

heading to my favrit snapper spot land base tonight i have a great feeling about tonight should get something good e.g snapper or shark


Okuma Salina 2

Has any one had any dealings with these reels and are they speced to what Okuma claim? Can't find any decent reviews about them anywhere. Any info would be great. Going to the montes soon and I'm just looking for some info before I buy some more gear. Want to get a few of them nice trout I've been seeing on here lately.


Baitcaster Carbontex drag upgrades: Worth it...?

Hi all

 

Just wondering if anyones had any experience with changing drag washers over in baitcasters tp the carbontex types?

 

If so, is there any discernable difference in strength/ smoothness of the drag? I was thinking in particular in Curado 300E and Abu Revo Toro 60s... Still deciding between these two and although the washers are pretty cheap and seem easy enough to change over, wether or not they really make much of a difference and what sort of difference they make will probably go a long way to me making up my mind between the two...

If you have done this on either of these models, or even on any baitcaster, how much stronger/ smoother does it really make the reel?

 

cheers again guys


Flying Manta Rays

Flying giants: Incredibly rare display as manta rays leap 9ft out of water into the air

 

They could be mistaken for strange-looking birds but these creatures are actually manta rays, leaping a staggering nine feet in the air.


The plucky animals, which measure just over three feet wide, demonstrate their acrobatic skills by bursting out of the water.  Once airborne they to flap their impressive fins in what looks like an attempt to fly.


Water leap! A manta ray soars out of the sea a staggering three metres in the air

Water leap! A manta ray soars out of the sea a staggering three metres in the air

 

 Two flying manta rays put on a display before diving back into the water

Somersault: Two flying manta rays put on a display before diving back into the water

 

And, if they're feeling particularly playful, some even manage a somersault before plummeting back into the water with an impressive splash.

 Roland and Julia Seitre were treated to an extraordinary acrobatic display

Incredibly rare: Roland and Julia Seitre were treated to an extraordinary acrobatic display

 

Photographers Roland and Julia Seitre captured the spectacle off the coast of Costa Rica, Central America.   The French couple had sailed six miles out to sea in the hope of catching sight of some whales but were also treated to this extraordinary rare acrobatic display.


Mr Seitre said: 'The males jumped clear out of the water, up to three metres high.  They flapped their wings during the few seconds of flight, before hitting the surface with a loud banging noise.  Some think it is a way to attract female attention as we saw pairs close by.  Numerous males take off and land one after another.   The bangs are so loud it's like you're being close to a hunting party with guns.  Occasionally one seems to have even more fun by doing a somersault.  This kind of behaviour is extremely unpredictable and incredibly rare to witness.  We were so lucky, it was a complete coincidence that we were there in the first place.'


'These manta rays are beautiful.  Their large wing-shaped bodies and slow motion make them excellent sea gliders.  They not only impress with their size but also with their very elegant flight into the blue oceans.'


The manta ray is the largest of the all the rays.


They can grow up to 25ft across and weigh around 5,100lb.

 Looking as though it's flapping its 'wings' the amazing animal leaps through the air

Graceful: Looking as though it's flapping its 'wings' the amazing animal leaps through the air

 

The species are found in tropical waters and feed mostly on plankton, which is filtered into their bodies through their gills as swim.


Perfectly stream-lined for gliding through the water, the manta ray can reach speeds of up to 7mph.


They are often spotted swimming with divers and will sometimes surface alongside boats.

 

The Daily Mail, 28th July 2010

 




Fisheries Management Paper

Just completed reading the two papers released by the Department of Fisheries, "Integrated Fisheries Management" and "Fisheries Management Paper". Yes I require a large drink and a few panadol but it was an interesting read.

The first paper "Integrated Fisheries Management" gives detailed figures, graphs and figures collected mostly from 2005/2006 surveys and data collected from professional and charter records.

The paper adds 25% increase to the formal figures collected in 2005 suggesting that they are a true indication of the recreational capture. (Go figure)

After all the reading the paper finally states that the commercial sector take 66% of the catch and recreational fishing accounts for 33%

Finally add the readings from "Fisheries management Paper" and you finally get some clarity about the outcome. Yes the department wants to reduce the catch taken by both the professional and recreation groups by 50% from the figures stated in 2005. As a result of the changes in rules over the pass few years the paper indicates that the measures taken to this point "should have created" the environment in which the fishery is sustainable.

Page 18-19, 2.2.6 Current and future management arrangements as stated in point form "are primarily aimed at ensuring that management objectives are met" " reduction of catch across the sector of both recreational and professional by 50%"

In short it seems in the short term there will not be anymore further changes to fishing rules and regulations within the near future without further data.


Exmouth conditionS

Looking at heading back up to Exmouth in the next couple of weeks and heard rumours that the gulf Is still green like it was at the start of June ( when I was last there) with the fishing pretty shut down

anyone been up there recently?

Cheers


favorite lures they all become MIAs

Just had 10 days with Tim and Muldy at the Biddy,average trip with big macks,shark macks heaps of trevs and just a few trout,job fish and a few s/emporer,not as good as I remember,pulled the boat out one day and there was still 30+ boats at the ramp. Generous breezes some days made for tough fishing but we did get out every day. One lure was outstanding a pale blue xwrap magnum which caught 6 macks hooked 2 sailfish and then was lost to big mack,bugger,still theres plenty more in the shops. Huge amount of whales and mantas, it was like being on a whale watch trip every day


New boat catch limit could be one fish a year

UNDER proposed changes to the allocation and harvesting levels of demersal fish stocks, holders of the Recreational Fishing from Boat Licence (RFBL) may only be entitled to less than four kilos of demersal fish per year.


That’s right – one small dhufish or decent pink snapper, or maybe a couple of breaksea cod or even a goldband snapper.

 

The Department of Fisheries recently released a draft report on allocation of West Coast demersal fish species for the commercial and recreational sectors.

 

This allocation has been developed under the State Government’s Integrated Fisheries Management policy.

 

The Fisheries press release revealed that the anticipated recreational demersal limit was 238 tonne, under a proposed 66-34 per cent split of the fish resources between commercial and recreational fishers.

 

That recreational allocation has to be split between the 66,000 (current) RFBL holders, equating to 3.60 kilos per licence.

 

more here

http://www.perthnow.com.au/lifestyle/new-boat-catch-limit-could-be-one-fish-a-year/story-e6frg3sl-1225897868633


record long nose emporer??

Is this the biggest Long Nose Emporer you have ever seen?

 

Caught it during my recent trip to Exmouth at the back of the Muiron Islands.

 

We measured it at just over 90cm and an estimated weight of 11kg.


Barra Feeding Vid

A quick video of me feeding (poorly) one of the barra tanks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrKPoiCRRE

 


squiding at woodman point rocks

just got a new tinny and wondering hows the squiding going around that area (boatwise) and also the best jigs to use