Boat Overdue
Submitted by The Saint on Fri, 2018-10-05 06:28
Just heard on the radio that a boat has not returned from a fishing trip.
The radio report said a 5.5 metre vessel left Cockburn on Wednesday night with 4 on board and was due back yesterday/last night but has not returned.
Search underway this morning.
Hopefully all will work out well, and we'll see them being interviewed on the news tonight.
Darren253
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Doesn’t sound
Doesn’t sound good...
hopefully they find them bobbing along with a dodgy motor towards the shelf with a bit daylight on there side. Unfortunately the lack of distress call or epirb tends to make you think otherwise
Son of tomcat
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I just saw the trailer for
I just saw the trailer for the boat on the news this morning looks like a trailer for a tinny or an older smallish boat hopefully there found safe
Happy dayz
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I read that they headed out
I read that they headed out on Wednesday night to rotto , wasn't that when we had that shit weather ?? Hope their alright but some people really need to understand how the weather works and to read forcasts properly
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Dale
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I’m not liking their chances, I really hope I’m wrong, but this does not look good at all. No EPIRB is a major concern.
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hezzy
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lets hope there found ok
lets hope there found ok .
the boat pictured looks familiar ??
going night fishing there is so much you cant see going on around you in the dark , bung not in when they left would be an easy mistake that would creep up on them , ,
hit a whale ,
4 in that size boat is at least one too many for me overnight fishing
strong easterlies down here wed night , 10 mile out it would have been pretty average to say the least
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sea-kem
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Agree Hezzy, my boat is
Agree Hezzy, my boat is similar in size and it struggles with 4 on board in the best of conditions. Everyone needs to spread out to stabilise, so I'm thinking in those conditions they had it's not going to be a good outcome, I hope otherwise.
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quadfisher
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Looking, older boats always a worry.
twitter.com/FreoSeaRescue/status/1047995634773450752/photo/1
Hope the boys are found , but no radio or epirb contact must be a worry , its times like this im glad i just got a haines with floatation.
but hey anything can happen out there.
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Dale
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Lot of assets out there looking, so if they are floating, they should be seen.
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Lets
Just hope they are found safe and well.
wont catch em sitting at home!
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Not looking good
A body has been found west of garden island.No trace of the vessel at this point.
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That’s not good. Things
That’s not good. Things aren’t looking too encouraging at the moment. Hats off to all involved in the search ,three helicopters a fix winged aircraft and countless boats . A huge effort by all
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Concentrating on the area between the south side of Garden Island and Mandurah at present. That’s sad Iceman
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Oldbull
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Helicopters
over singleton beach a few minutes ago. RIP blokes. Sad day for all anglers
Dale
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May have just found another, rescue chopper went down close to the water and worked a small area, may have picked them up as it’s heading back in.
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sea-kem
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Fucking tragic, just makes
Fucking tragic, just makes me sad the families that will be devastated by this.
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Very sad RIP and condolences
Very sad RIP and condolences to the families involved.
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What a shit situation.
What a shit situation. Totally agree Hezzy, night fishing isn't as fun as it sounds especially in a boat that's barely adequate.
A family now torn apart, thoughts to everyone affected by this.
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not good at all. sorry to
not good at all. sorry to hear when anyone goes missing out at sea. condolences to the families involved
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Swompa
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Found two bodies. Something
Found two bodies.
Something must have happened really quickly
condolonces to the family and friends.
hezzy
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condolences to the family of
condolences to the family of these men
very sad and tragic outcome to date and looking worse as the hours go by ,
not sure what conditions where like in that area thursday arvo , but here off bunners it was flat calm , if they had contact at 3.30 pm on thursday afternoon ,so they got through wed nights shite weather and then said they where heading back soon after 3.30 pm ish , makes you wonder if they may have had flat seas , and been heading back on the plane at say 25knots or more , and hit a whale or debris of some sort , ?
at that speed it may cause such an older boat of that build to break up and throw them in the water quickly ?? , no epirb etc set off , , maybe it sank or they could not get to it quickly ?
it seems the skipper was known as a safe operator , no alcohol usually ,
if the older glass boat had any kind of weak patch in the timbers or glass along the front or keel areas it would explain maybe why it seems to have happened quickly without them using any safety gear ,
can only hope they are found soon
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glen p
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.
Last night I checked the live readings on sea breeze for Rottnest island for Thursday afternoon between 3-4pm and it was gusting to just under 25knots from the N-NW which would of made it pretty sloppy confitions
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A terrible tragedy for the families concerned.
Hezzy could be right. 4 years ago my wife and I were returning to Coral Bay on a flat sea at about 25 knots. A whale came up under us rendering the boat airborn. With nothing but good luck we landed upright. It was all over in a millisecond. No time for anything. We were both badly shaken and bruised from being thrown about. From that time on we always wear inflatable jackets.
Hears hoping the two remaining men are found safe.
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Not good at
All.
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latest i heard still no sign
latest i heard still no sign of the boat or 2 of the fishos.
to be honest i dont like the chances of finding them with the number of large sharks around.
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Condolances to those who have lost loved ones
Condolences to the loved ones and families who have lost loved ones.
Lets all hope that the remaining unaccounted two that are still missing are found alive and well
From what I have read the skipper was very safety conscious and had all the required safety gear on board.
clogwog
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Have to admit this ones has
Have to admit this ones has really hit home for me, very similar hull to my Pacemaker and Ive fished Rotto from woodies heaps of times.
Thoughts are with the families, absolutley tragic. Huge respect for the search parties and their effort to find these guys.
glen p
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Seaward reef
This is probably a time to highlight Seaward reef that I always warn my mates about and am not sure if many boaties know about it.it is on the five fathom bank and is W-NW roughly from Carnac island.its a fairly common route when u launch at woodies and head to rotto.its only a few meters from the surface and have sat there before and waited up to 5 minutes on a medium size swell and all of a sudden watch it break.i followed boats in before and have cringed as they have past very close to it.
Anyway I hope and pray they might just find these remaining guys this arvo clinging to a craypot float or have managed to swim to shore somewhere.
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timboon
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Great advice Glen, hopefully
Great advice Glen, hopefully the less experienced folk read research and adhere to your advice.
Being a surfer i feel reading the ocean has its advantages.
Times like these makes you wonder what happened.
Now is not the time for blame, sometimes accidents happen to the most experienced.
The ocean is a very unforgiving place, especially times like these.
Pezdog
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Lifejackets
Probably not the time and place but I will bring it up for the safety of others.
Why not make lifejackets a legal rerquirement for all on all vessels?
I wear one on the Yak (much to the riducule and soft cock comments from others) and that is just because its a heavy, unstable bastard and a few hundred offshore I cop wanker jetskis and boaties that like to fang past like imbosiles. I see on fishing shows in the east they wear them in the rivers. If it saves one, its better than nothing.
Fingers crossed for the other two lads and thoughts are with the family right now.
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Epirb
guys. I think we need a change in the epirbs , the units need to be water activated and work effectively under water, Being involved in sea rescue group I see this often that the boat goes down and the person onboard doesn't have time or can't get to the epirb stored up front or under seats etc ,
condolences to all of the family's and friends as I hope there might be some good outcome of this event IMO
sea-kem
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Yeah I agree with that mate,
Yeah I agree with that mate, after watching the Sunday night program last week and the guys whos died when their boat flippedd was just so tragic. A simple water activated Epirb would have alerted someone and at minimum a search started.
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Govenment needs to subsidise
Govenment needs to subsidise these type of epirbs to make them more afordable to all boaties.
If the can subsidise shark sheilds they can do it for Epirbs. At nearly $800 it's a bit beyond anyones budget especially when you need to replace every 6 years.
https://www.whitworths.com.au/gme-406mhz-float-free-gps-epirb-water-activated-auto-release-manual-class-2
quadfisher
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Search costs.
Yeah I agree , they can find money to rescue international yatchies on a race ( as there obilghed too do) and they can find money
to equip search planes , water police etc etc , I think some encouragement to equip people with best available would actually reduce costs.
It is a bit much in practical terms to expect your average new boaty getting into a secound hand dinghy or preloved glass boat to pay the 800 plus req.
I know its a small price to pay for your life , but history says if somethings demmed to expensive people wont take it up.
As a shorter term thing those P.L.B are great items , mines a ciggy packet size and comes with a comfy arm band , as a recent purchaser of a tub
any solo fishing will see me wearing it, cause even a water activated epirb is no good if your not with it.
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little johnny
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Can have as many safety guards
As you like. Certain circumstances nothing can be done to prevent unforeseen accidents hard one to solve.
Oldbull
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Open water lifejackets
To be compulsory in WA in a short time I think. I think the powers to be will look at cases such as this and legislate. That and ongoing developments in water activated EPIRBS. If he EPIRB was the size of a mobile phone, stored in a lifejacket pocket and water activated then the outcomes are likely to be better. Not perfect but better.
In any case I hope the families have support and the two other blokes are found whatever the outcome.
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Exactly John , we don't need
Exactly John , we don't need knee jerk reactions and more nanny state regulations. Sometimes shit happens in nature that's out of our control. In saying that you also can't teach commonsense which i think the lack thereof is the most common denominator in most accidents . I was always taught to operate within your capabilities and with practice especially with boats you will become more competent. Anyway that's my 2 bobs worth on that. Condolences to all involved, it's a very sad situation, we will probably never really know what happened.
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little johnny
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All safety gear must be dry and safe
So where do most people including myself keep there epirb, flares. Life jackets. Cabin , sealed containers.otherwise get fined. Life jackets self inflating or pull cords may help prevent some tragic events happening on water.will goverment make them affordable for every fisherman to buy.epirb a classic very affordable prior to being compulsary. Then bang doubled in price. I hate seeing people loose there life to a pastime they enjoy doing.new type life jackets definitely way to go for sure in my books.just make them affordable for everyone
meglodon
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EPIRB deplyment
Sadly most EPIRBs on smaller boats are not water activated because they can be exposed to the weather very easily and are therefore kept out of the weather under seats or whatever. If an emergency happens without much warning (as these things usually do) there is very little if any time to recover life saving stores from under boat seats etc.
Should you hit a whale or run onto a shallow reef without warning them those on board are going to be most likely injured and the boat seriously damaged, if this happens at dusk or knight then it is a night mare situation
The thing that gets me is that a very large amount of air and sea assets have been deployed looking for the remaining two guys and no wreckage no life jackets or gear has been found that has been positively identified as coming from the boat in question (at least that is the way it is so far)
Lets all hope that something comes to light that answers some questions that most people harbour and can stop the agonising wanting answers.
rigpig
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Scuba divers
We have a very active scuba diving community here in Perth and many dive out behind Garden Island and on the the reefs out to the Five Fathom Bank. Hopefully this is how the boat will be found so that the police can work out what happened, no boat, no definative findings.
As for storage of safety gear I have my Epirb mounted on the inside roof of my hard top for easy acces but all other gear is in the seat boxes. I'll have to rethink this. I have inflatable lifejackets onboard and we wear these a lot when out wide but that is something I will be looking to change as well as I have just started the deep drop caper and last time out we were surrounded by whales which can be pretty daunting 60klm offshore.
Stay safe out there team.
Gav475
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Life cell
After the tragic loss of the lad out of mindarie who also was never found i had a rethink about our safety. I also had all the gear on board but it was all stored in separate areas. I then bought a 4 man life cell and attached to epirb to it as well as all safety gear and a spare hand held radio water barley suger ect. This stays on the deck while underway to direction bank where i predominantly fish and once fishing it slots onto a bracket under the bait board from which it will float free from if the boat rolls. We now also wear pfds while underway which i was a bit slack on. The lesson here is the last few incidents have involved experienced boaters so things can and do go wrong very quickly so do an honest self assessment of your ssfety set up especially you blokes who are very experienced and perhaps have let some complacency sneek in like myself. Stay safe all.
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definatly something we are
definatly something we are thinking about now for sure, they guy that went missing off mindarie was a family friend of ours and we see his family a little bit,
deffinatly have to think about more safety things now and having all that stuff out in the open incase something does go wrong in a hurry
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Can't believe all the mucho men
Who won't wear sn inflatable life vest, are you afraid someone might laugh at you. Have some thought for your families, my 2 cents worth.
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I think i'm off to buy one of
I think i'm off to buy one of those lifecell floats... I have everything in a grab bag in the gunnel but think i would be much happier if it was stored in a self-floating location.
petermac
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made me think
the dealer i bought my boat of my boat attached the epirb inside of 1 of the gunnals your not going to get it from there in an emergancy , its been moved
Iceman
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Family members left behind
I know there are a lot against the compulsary wearing life jackets and becoming a nanny state.
Maybe they should think about the family members who are left at home wondering what happened when you go missing. Prior to this loss of life 12 people died at sea off WA coast. Investiagtions revealed that 8 may have been saved if they were wearing a life jacket.
A small price to pay to ensure you get back to family.
Having been involed in Sea Rescue for 29 years and involved in numerous searches I am all for the amndatory wearing of life jackets. Unfortately I don't think the government will have the guts to make it law as it is in other states.
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Knee Jerk
I think this is a bit of a knee jerk.
If you were to legislate this, where do you draw the line?
Does everyone on the rottnest ferry need to wear a life jacket? What about charter boats? The process of putting life jackets on and off adds time to the loading and unloading - costs money. Wear and tear on lifejackets as they are constantly on or off - costs money. Having to clean lifejackets after each wear (I am not putting on something that i dont know is clean - costs money.
Lets be honest, no one is interested in adding more cost to our lifestyle.
Ok so we legislate that boats only up to a certain size need to wear lifejackets, lets see the shitstorm start when people with small boats cry as the rich are now exempt from the laws etc etc etc.
Speaking from personal experience, you can not buy a lifejacket for a child under 6 months. Do we change the rules that they are no longer allowed over water?
Wearing a lifejacket is a personal choice. If you feel strongly then wear one, but dont force people against their will to wear one.
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It's law over east, can't
It's law over east, can't see it being too problematic implementing it here if it's already been tested over there. I don't actually have a problem with it. I'm sure it would be limited to recreational boats no matter the size and commercial exempt as they have different guidlines to follow. But I do believe fishing charters should have them compulsory too.
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jdavies_99
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Over East Laws
East coast laws state a lifejacket must be worn in the following:
The laws for QLD are for boats less then 4.8m when crossing a designated sand bar.
The laws for NSW for vessels less then 4.8m.
The laws for Victoria are for less then 4.8m unless in "heightened risk" then up to 8m.
With the exception of Victoria (and considering when they went out as a heightened risk", none of these laws would have prevented the tragedy.
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sea-kem
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I'm amazed you're so opposed
I'm amazed you're so opposed to it, it's also not a knee jerk reaction this has been talked about for many years now over here. This tragedy is a case in point where wearing auto inflates or even pull cords lives could have been saved. And there have been other documented cases where the coroner has stated that the wearing of life jackets will save lives it's almost a no brainer.
Two people overboard last year on the way from Rotto were very very lucky the skipper noticed them missing and were saved relatively quickly any longer and they'd have been dead. So many other stories, It's not about nanny state bullshit or forcing people against their will it's about saving lives. Do you or have you ever ridden a motor bike? Guess you would have worn a helmet?
I'm heading out Friday and have already discussed with the skipper who's a long time member on here that we'll wear jackets while under steam for the one basic reason of the amount of whales out there at the moment.
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uncle
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Smart move
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IncognitOh
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No offense SK
But I'm with JD on this.
My boat is not a trailer boat and it doesnt do 25 knots.
we are not likey to hit a whale at 8 or 9 knots and if we hit debris at that speed, which should not happen if maintaining proper watch, the damage would not be catastrophic so, why should I be forced to wear a life jacket just cos you trailer boat blokes want to roar around at 25 or 30 knots?
one should always operate according to the conditions so if whales are a concern, adjust your speed accordingly. Oh thats right, you need to get out and back as fast as possible and HOPE you dont hit something on the way.
I guess what happened to these unfortunate casualties may eventually come out in a coronial enquiry but my money is on them being dead or badly incapacitated before they hit the water and, therefore life jackets would have only made it easier to collect bodies and not actually affected the tragic outcome.
I've seen what happens to blokes when a boat comes to a sudden stop at ~20 knots....both went through the windscreen. those blokes survived (they landed in knee deep water) but they both had lengthy hospital stays.
Personal protective equipment is at the bottom of every heirarchy of control matrix
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No offense taken mate, we're
No offense taken mate, we're all entitled to an opinion and it's good to keep it measured. There are plenty of arguments for and against. You are probably right regarding this accident, my wife was asking me my thoughts and I said exactly the same. Impact with a whale and that boat wouldn't have stood a chance probably torn apart on impact, very sad. I guess the good thing is that it gets us talking and is a wake up call never to take the ocean for granted like some do.
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Absolutel
Never take the ocean for granted!
We must force ourselves not to become complacent, no matter how familiar we think we are.
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Totally agree
And I am often by myself and had to quickly pull power off last time out to avoid a whale which was lolling about on the surface or rather almost below the surface
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Might as well start wearing
Might as well start wearing helmuts when driving motor vehicles , i'm sure they would save a lot of lives too.
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As well as everyone wearing
As well as everyone wearing suncream, a hat, long pants, long sleeve shirt to protect you from the sun. I don’t agree with making it compulsory.
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Swompa
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It is all good to have this
It is all good to have this gear on the boat but if you fish solo and end up on the water, there is no value in having it in an easy to get place when your boat is just in gear and putting away, or you don't have a way to get back on your boat.
A few yachtie mates have a personal epirb and a torch in a bum bag that gets clipped on when on a boat.
straith
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Don't suppose they could've
Don't suppose they could've tracked their mobile phones GPS like when they are stolen?
Maybe that's something for the techy minds to develop.
A constant pinging app from your phone or even included in these expensive GPS chart plotters??
Just saying. They have transponder technology and surely a strong mobile tower on rotto could help....
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I am far from a tech-head
I am far from a tech-head but I think that only works while the phone is operational so once in the water there would be no signal. There must be a way to use that tech to help somehow you'd think.
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SeperateKnob
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"Self-deploying EPIRBs will
"Self-deploying EPIRBs will become a mandatory requirement onboard certain commercial vessels, as part of new marine safety laws announced by AMSA (Australian Maritime Safety Authority).
The National Standard for Commercial Vessels will change from January 1st 2019, with a two year transition period for Boat operators to comply."
I didn't know float free, water activated GPS EPIRBS were available and just replaced my old one 6 months ago, however at over $700 and battery life expiry almost halved it's considerably more expensive, and required to be mounted to allow unobstructed float to the surface in the event of capsize. The gov should be subsidising these.
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Exactaly totally agree
Exactly I couldn't agree more.
What did you do with the old one, when my current EPIRB expires I'm going to pull it apart and have a look at how hard it is to replace the battery. If it is not too hard I'll have a go at replacing batteries (if I'm still around when the next time the battery life in an EPIRB expires)
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I'm keeping the old one
I'm keeping the old one stowed in a different location. Just me but I don't want to take the risk pulling those things apart even if just replacing the batts.
hooty
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Havent read all the threads.
Havent read all the threads. What about looking at the easist fix for this incident. Educate people to understand the conditions that are not safe to take a vessell out. How many of these incidents are in ridiculous weather.
Who takes their boat out fishing at night in 60km winds and a weather warning ?.
Do your Rec Skipper ticket and they teach you how to pick up a float and tie your boat off a jetty. How many people have lost their lives in those situations.
Swompa
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As part of the Australian
As part of the Australian Sailing regulations, yachts without lifelines, under 8m, need to have all crew wearing life jackets.
There are some pretty slim and comfortable options around though you pay for them. I am thinking spinlock deck vest rather than the BCF $60 jobbies.
Ultimately, if someone is knocked unconscious then manual inflation jobs are not going to help. Even someone conscious wouldn't have lasted too long in the water off the back of garden island for too long though it would hopefully give the families some sort of closure.
Automatic inflate ones are not always suitable and there are plenty of stories of people having to stab them to pop them after copping a wave.
https://www.facebook.com/volvooceanrace/videos/when-theres-so-much-water-over-deck-your-lifejacket-explodes-/10156117172167437/
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Or be trapped underneath an upturned boat.
It has happened. I personally knew someone who died because they had donned a lifejacket inside a whellhouse with a narrow door, and couldn't get out--a survivor saw him struggling in the door, jammed, as the boat went down. Unlikely scenario, but there is a reason they tell you not to inflate your lifejackets, in a water landing, before you leave the aircraft . Just make sure the toggle is not hidden inside velcro--mine had it well concealed, so I pulled them out a bit and resealed the velcro, so they can be found when required.
little johnny
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New pull cord ones
Seem the go. Wouldn't even know there on. Definatley will be investing in one. Not bad idea to carry sea sausage in pocket ,always have one in bc when diving. Cheap . No one will never know what happened no amount of safety equipment will save you in some cases.. but doesn't hurt to eliminate the main one drowning.
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Tomorrow is Safe Boating Day
And the challenge is to wear a life jacket to work.
https://www.facebook.com/events/183545365875926/
Pretty topical at this Tragic time.
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dodgy
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I’m going to order a full set
I’m going to order a full set of the bumbag style jackets when the new rig is finished.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Just seen down ramp 30 second
Safety challenge. On flash SUV. Logo on side ,can you get safety gear on and together within 30 seconds. No dought over next few weeks will be big focus on safety with summer around the corner
uncle
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Date Joined: 10/02/07
With the older style
Make sure the zips are functional.
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meglodon
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Date Joined: 17/06/10
Good comment uncle
I wonder how many of us have gone to put on our life jackets after not being on the water for a while and found the zips to be frozen
Swompa
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Date Joined: 14/10/12
The zip on my lifejacket bag
The zip on my lifejacket bag had seized up. When I got it open, the webbing straps had deteriorated to the point that I could break them with very little effort. They were only 2-3 years old!
Since replaced the lot with inflatable jobbies.
gruntre69
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Date Joined: 15/10/16
My biggest concern and what
My biggest concern and what I always think when these sad stories is that if you hit something unexpected in the water like a whale or a semi-submerged sea container at speed, you are pretty much cactus!
If the boat breaks up or launches airborn and capsizes and you get knocked unconsious, you would have a pretty slim chance PFD or not. Not having seatbelts is what I see to be the risk because bodies get flug aroung like rag dolls causing possible severe injury againts steel frames and windscreens. Not that I'm suggesting seatbelts but this is the primary life saver in similar motor vehicle crashes.
It's just a risk that is present with boating. It's far more risky at night when you have little hope of seeing and avoiding such collisions.
The best thing you can do is try to mitigate the risks. I think the inflatables and PLBs (beacon) are a great idea worn on the body or in the pocket of a bumbag PFD. Especially for solo or night missions but if you have a PLB then it would be smart to have it on your person at all times while boating. Pretty smart to use for dirtbikes, solo hiking or whatever else you are into where out of phone range.
I went out at night fishing a few weeks ago and had my crew wear jackets, however I only have 2 inflatables so one guy didn't wear one. I was thinking as I was driving the boat, if there is anything in the water I have no hope of seeing it. Any cray pots would have been toast! PFDs will be a hard and fast rule in my boat going forward for night travel. Really, I think auto inflaters would be best and If I end up buying any more they will be auto's.
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