Their 1st dot point says stay home when possible, they aren't advocating for people to go fishing, they are recommending people stay home, but people are going to go fishing anyway, so then they go on to tell people how to do it with sticking to the new rules.
Have a read on the Coronavirus thread, in particular Cransy1’s words, hes more qualifies then me, so hopefully people will take his words seriously.
Do some research on this virus, it can live on many different surfaces for long periods of time, for up to 3 days on plastic!
It’s very simple tho, just stay home unless it’s essential.
Yes you can Somo. Recfish have put out a statement linked to the government guidelines.
Recfishwest Update
25/03/20
COVID-19 crisis – Be safe, be responsible and follow Government guidelines
Recfishwest is urging all WA fishers to take responsibility during the COVID-19 crisis and follow all the recommended precautions by the Government around social distancing and non-essential travel between regions.
We all love fishing and its value for mental health and well-being is greater than ever right now with it providing many in our community a much-needed break during these stressful times.
However, advice from the Government last night was very clear: if you can stay at home, you should stay at home.
We each have a responsibility as fishers to protect ourselves, our families and our community. This means we all need to play our role as individuals and strictly follow the guidance of both the Commonwealth and State Governments to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
Social distancing is a critical component of the current advice.
Social distancing rules for outdoors state that you must maintain 1.5m of space (four square metres) between yourself and another person during non-essential activities. The 1.5m rule applies to boat and land-based fishing. It does not apply to members of your family or household.
In order to do our part in preventing the spread and to save lives, fishers need to: • Stay home where possible to minimise social interactions. • Fish locally only, near where you live and limit your time away from home. • Fish with your direct household members (no mates or extended family). • Travel directly to and from your home to prevent any social interactions. • Maintain spatial distancing of 1.5 metres from other people • Fish alone, with family, or with household members only • Do not congregate at land-based fishing locations, instead look for more secluded alternatives • Stay away from popular man-made fishing structures such as jetties • Do not go fishing if you are in quarantine • If you are unwell, you must self-isolate, do not go fishing if self-isolating
The situation is rapidly changing and we all have a responsibility to keep ourselves up-to-date and follow the latest advice – we advise people follow the Department of Health’s advice as the most credible source. We will do our best to keep you informed.
If the guidelines above are followed I cannot see an issue. No worse than going for a walk for exercise which is totally permissible at this stage. Of course this could change at any moment. How is it morally wrong if the government guidelines are followed?
Well that's bullshit, my boot camp class which trains outside had put in place gov guidlines distancing etc but still copped abuse from passing traffic. But my trainer has decided to go online just for her mental sake and to stop us being yelled at by fucktards who haven't read the gov advice for outdoor gym classes.
Me and two kids on my boat =90 whiting one kid doesnt want to come. Kid three can stay at home or go school
kids go to school interact with 1000 plus kids x 2 plus me at work interacting with 200 plus
Im thinking I’ll take two kids fishing get 2.3 kg of whiting fillets and drink my allocated one carton for the day. Obviously once return home.
Working from home seems to be ok but no doubt once we are locked in cant happen. I reckon going fishing with the kids tomorrow will prevent a few thousand interactons compounded compared three family members on a boat.
Recfishwest is urging all WA fishers to take responsibility during the COVID-19 crisis and follow all the recommended precautions by the Government around social distancing and non-essential travel between regions.
I also read what crasny wrote and i agree with him totally.
But if i drive with my missus 1 meter beside me, sleep with her 1 meter from me then i cannot see a reason that we can't go fishing together in my boat.
If we get it then we will get it long before we hit the water.
I respect others and especially the elderly, i have elderly parents who i am staying clear of but still talk to them every day.
I do avoid others giving them a good space between us when we meet & make sure i try to maintain clean hands etc.
I also agree that this could escalate in the near future but for now i think i will not stop living, i won't go crazy at the supermarket or bottle shop and try to get out in my boat to releive the stress that everyone is under at the moment. IMO...
The ramp is less than a K away. I use 10-20 l per day, hold 225. Ute won't need fuel for ages. Fish with my wife. Don't need to go to a tackle store for anything. Don't get anywhere near anyone at the ramp, our ramps are always quiet when there are no tourists about. She is the only who who goes to the shops. Minimise our interactions with others, not that there were many to start with. So, to sum it up, one size may not fit all.
And I can add that I was slated for two days work next week at Dampier. Yes, it was still going ahead, F&A booked. I declined, and gave my reasons, which were pretty bleedin' obvious.
Heard it all before "already have fuel.....wont see anyone" and all the rest of it. Read my next post cant andt wont stop anyone. If everone does as you do all over Australia. (Says fuck it ramp is empty which of course just means you are relying on others to do the right thing) more interactions will happen. better yet read walfootrots post further down he sounds close to it. You dont have to justify shit to me you just have to justify it to yourself if ....as walfootrot puts it you"dont get lucky.
My posts are not really aimed at anyone in particular and really dont care about individual circumstances. I just know that the more people who dont go out the better this is going to be for all Australians
But I'm sure you've taken into account if you get into the shit out there the risk you pose to first responders and any other medical staff you'll come into contact with. Not to mention tying up valuable resources that will be required to get you or your wife out of there. This is the whole point of not going anywhere. Not having a crack just offering you a viewpoint you might not have thought of.
Whiting fillets are essential in our house. Kids get hungry = I just don't get it either... what is not to get. D-d-001, driving to the shop to try to get shit chicken breasts is opening more contamination opportunities than going fishing.
Ok. I’m going to post a picture of a graph that might explain why staying at home unless it's essential is critical to how bad corona virus gets in Australia. It's the latest projection of how we can beat this thing, it's not propaganda, it's not fear mongering, it's based off of real data. I don't know how to post it hear so I will put it in latest images. Please look at it and reconsider your non essential movements.
The basis is to maintain a safe distance / wash ya fuckin hands, we are not Europe living in shoe boxes piled on to of each other able to cross borders with a 1 hour train ride.
Yes there is the possibility of it looming in the suburbs, but as stated by Gov our infections have come from over seas travel / cruise ships - all of this is traced back with all contacts tested / isolated.
Yes we need to take this serious dont get me wrong...but Gov has set the guidelines..At the moment it is safe to go to the fuel station / coles / boat ramp providing you keep a good distance in my opinion.
I do not think we will get to full lock down....Will not happen!
If you honestly believe what the government is saying that all cases are from overseas travel or from contact with overseas travellers hate to say it but you are an idiot. They are only testing people who have travelled or who have been in contact with travellers that number you see on the news every night the number of new infections that is prob half the number of infections. People are going to hospital with symptoms and being told to go home and isolate no test no verification just told to go home and quarantine for two weeks. Give it two weeks and you will see the true numbers start showing up not from the news but all around you. stay safe stay strong alone we can all get through this.
IF YOU CAN STAY AT HOME, YOU SHOULD STAY AT HOME. Can't be much simpler than that.
I have been asked by two mates to go fishing and diving. FFS what is so hard about this to understand. Posts all over Faceebook about people fishing and diving. Looking for buddies etc. It is taking the piss.
With household members I can sort of understand why people think they can go. But they are still travelling, fueling, interacting, touching etc etc. IF YOU CAN STAY AT HOME STAY AT HOME.
If you go with a mate you are a plain moron who doesn't give a toss about anyone but themselves.
I cant and wont stop anybody doing what they will do but Im going to keep posting on here because this is way more important than anyone thinks.
If you think you can go fishing (non essential travel) then what about the people who play tennis at the local court.....they will only drive a short way fill up the tank just a day earlier than usual. only go with family members. what about the guys going camping ....going with family maybe only just duck into one camping shop on the way but will keep their distance. what about the kids skating ....hey it's outside they will stay a distance from others. what about the other 25million Aussies doing what they do because they think it's safe. does anyone on here think there will be 0 extra casual interactions?
I have been watching this since February.
I posted in the corona virus thread on the 22 mar when cases in Aust were 1200ish ....now about 3000 that we know of. We are on the same track as Italy the way we are going. (Although the USA will cop it worst and will have most infections by a few days)
Before you go out spend a few hours looking at youtube Italy crisis. spend some time educating yourself on this problem. I have been following worldometer corona virus for a month now and it is scary.
All over Australia hospitals are converting waiting rooms, wards and absolutely any and all spare space they have in preperation for what is to come. do you think they do this for no reason?
Final thought: Italy has at the moment aproximatly 1.2 people infected per 1000 of it's population and people are dying inthe coridors unable to be treated. the Army hase been called in to truck away the bodies. China at it's peak brought in 25 x 5 tonneincinerators. (incinerators that can handle 5 tonnes of human flesh per day). Some estimates comeing from virologists say that 20% - 60% of Australians will get Corona virus (200 - 600 per 1000 of population) Unless something is done drasticly
I have been reluctant to contribute to this rather ridiculous thread.
I totally support Cranzy's post. Like you I have followed the evolving pandemic since it's beginning.
Like you I believe that the decision not to go fishing is a no brainer. In absolutely no way can it be considered essential.
Please everyone look at the graphs being referred to.
I am retired Intensive Care Specialist who spent 30 years at it.
The closest example we have to the Corona pandemic is the Spanish Flu of 1918-19. At that time Australia had a population of approximately 5 million. We lost 12-15000.
This virus has a potential death rate several times higher.
I would further state that the posting from Reckfish is one of the most irresponsible posts I've seen from that body.
I have e-mailed them to that effect.
Their message should have been STAY AT HOME. No exceptions.
I know that their are people who will use all sorts of arguments to justify why they can go. These same people will be responsible for the Government having to initiate a total lockdown and believe me it's coming if we don't all take responsibility for our individual actions.
I strongly disqgree the email sent out by Recfish yesterday afternoon was irresponsible,
They are not the Governement but are directed by the Government as we all are, so until such time as the Government shuts up shop on everyone, what Recfish stated was absolutely correct.
I phoned both Fisheries WA and Recfish on Wednesday asking if going fishing was allowed and was told the same thing by both parties, and that was, until the beaches are closed and as long as you maintain social distancing then it is allowed.
Perhaps you would have been better off venting your thoughts to the Premier or perhaps the Prime Minister.
Like you I am retired and like probably everyone on this page and everyone in the country I do not wish to contract this disease or do I wish for others to contract it.
I could go on and apportion blame at different state authorities etc, there is nothing to be gained from that, it will not stop the virus, which by the way doesn't discriminate.
These are my thoughts to which I believe I am entitled.
Thanks Skull. You spoke to a different person to the one who responded to my e-mail. If necessary I could forward their responses to confirm their legitimacy.
Reckfish was aware that there were people who would go fishing regardless and therefore felt obliged to put forward some guidelines.
In a subsequent communication they acknowledged that on social media some people were misinterpreting the real thrust of their message.
And yes you are absolutely entitled to your thoughts.
Certainly interesting times on who actually takes this seriously and who doesn't, it's not hard to make a small commitment to limit your interactions and just stay home at a time when it's needed most. Is it immaturity, arrogance or are these people purely apathetic ?
The careless actions of just a few can potentially make this problem drag on and potentially cause harm to those who least need it.
Limit your interactions and stay at home as much as possible, your loved one's may actually be the one's most grateful.
Simo, ask yourself this : By heading out for a fish, am I being the best possible person I can be during a time of crisis ?
Met this old chap in our local butcher yesterday morning, he bought a kilo of chicken necks and we got talking. He was going crabbing on his own to catch his weekly feed.
He lives across from the river foreshore so he drags his small dinghy across the road and drops his pots.
These guidlines certainly does cause polar discussions.
Such an Inconvenience not being able to go fishing?
My sons wife is a nurse as are some of her friends, they are the ones that will be at the hospitals treating the sick, and being exposed. they are the ones that will be self isolating from their families to prevent the spread to their loved ones.
Each time you leave your house you increase the risk of exposure and the risk of bring it back to your house and family. If luck hold out for you, all good.
If not then you will end up being part of the spead of corona.
How fucking hard is it for you to just stay at home? Just go out if you realy need to ( food!)
Can you not see what is happening with the rest of the world?
You expect our health care workers to look after the sick, put them selves and their families at risk ( or isolate from their loved ones ) but you want to go fishing FFS.
Time to have a good hard look at whats going on.
The longer this lasts the longer the pain, be part of the solution not part of the problem.
We will be in full lockdown soon enough due to people not doing the right thing anyway.
It is not often I am complementary about the NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern however I see all public boat ramps are /or are being closed and barricaded preventing public access. The NZ Coastguard (equivalent of our VMR services) has alerted the public they will not respond to call outs as it puts their volunteers in danger. If you need help contact the Police, who are obligated to assist.
Not sure why people reference Italy and Europe...different ball game in terms of geographic and there medial system.
Australia 427 new cases yesterday - 287 today.
As of this morning the WHOLE of WA had 204 cases...that will jump in a few days after the cruise ship is accepted with isolation beginning on Rotto (14 day Period).
Lady from work just returned from abroad...She mentioned a few arrests had been made with people not complying....between Thailand and Australia she had at least 10 temperature and body scans for the virus....she is now in a 14 day isolation period at home....not to leave the house at all, she stated the home food delivery service is behind but was able to get her food and alcohol delivered. this is in place so that if she does have the virus within a 14 period she will know or if did it is dead and no longer a risk.
Can a medical expert please confirm the virus dies within 14 days ?.....theirs a few on here so no better place to ask..
Hi Brock. I'm a retired Intnsive Care Specialist not a Virologist but will do my best to answer your question. 14 days is thought tobe the maximum time during which you would develop symptoms from the time of contact with an infected person. There have been isolated reports where a longer interval has occurred but I have been unable to verify these
Once infected the time it takes to recover will vary from patient to patient. Outside the body the virus has been reported to survive on one of the cruise ship surfaces for at least 17 days.
There has been an outlier case with a 24 day incubation period but the WHO that is was probably a second exposure to another "Carrier". Thus WHO has not changed the 14 days period.
Hope this help and keep up the big fight. Sealure and my retired Anaesthetist father should be enjoying retirement, and I desperately hope we dont get to the point where we have to call up their help as in other countries.
Dont know why you're not complimentary abount Jacinda Ardern. I think she is one of the best leaders in the world today. Also, in my opinion, the 2 best are both women, the other is Angela Merkel
Jacinda Ardern has been groomed from school age to be a politician. She speaks well and appears to have a Wonder Woman status across the world. She knows how to milk a situation for what its worth and thus comes across very well from a humanitarian perspective. Unfortunately she has no fiscal policies that will benefit NZers and will ruin the country in my opinion.
The following was said by Stephen Toplis, head of research at BNZ Markets, following the feel good ''Wellness Budget".
"... the data clearly show future fiscal surpluses will come under increasing pressure from the combination of rising expenditure, slowing GDP growth and the lack of an obvious way to meaningfully enhance revenue...."
The upcoming election this September will tell us what the Kiwis think.
Having said that COVID-19 will now provide her with a perfect opportunity to sell to the country the reasons why fiscal goals haven't been met.
VMRs fully operational in the west but operating with minimum crew levels and, where possible operating the radio rooms from home using "wave" ......radios were the busiest I have experienced midweek
It's not hard , if you give a fuck about your fellow Aussies you will stay at home as per suggested , then it will all end a lot faster .If you don't give a fuck go out , and prolong the misery. I could 'nt afford to go out any way as work has dried up and with outlook the way it is , its only getting worse, so by all means go fishing , go to the servo , go to the bait shop . Hope you don't break down and need assistance putting rescue at risk. Fuck me i'm over all the me me me attitudes. If we stand united we can knock it on the head and get back to normal.
I love my fishing like everyone else on this site, however , there is no way you could describe it as an essential activity and people who come up with bloody creative reasons why they can continue to go fishing are IMO are selfish self centred bottom feeders with no sense of sprit.
If the gov is the authority were serious all retail would be shut eg bunnings Kmart supercheap etc. and boat ramps blocked. Not going to do much good if a handful of us are making the moral decision
Getting a bit like that hey Simo.
I can't see the reason folks are abusing others with all the name calling because the rules are not clear and stated.
NOR boat ramps were packed testerday so what is that saying ?????
Be safe.
Exactly Deckie. There is a lot of confusion not helped by the fact recfishwest first point is stay home when possible then next point is fish locally etc with the following conditions.....
These guidelines together with the most big retailers still operating would give one the impression fishing is ok if strict rules are followed. A lot of unfounded abuse going on
About unknown. Jobs/health issues list goes on. My wife self isolated weeks ago. My daughters both nurses. Don’t come around at all . Her friends don’t come over.Wife has no immune system at all . I don’t go to bait shops / I use gloves at petrol station / don’t go to shops . Don’t use public ramp . Always wash my hands . My fishing has slowed down ( but I still go) I work in a refinery .( scary) . Hygiene hygiene wash wash. Avoid close contact Or groups . I thought fishing would be safe ? Not disagreeing with anyone by all means. Even my wife’s specialist said quote ( safer to be on water away from people) she doesn’t fish by the way . I suppose it’s how you get there . I don’t think wa will let it get as far as some country’s have . All unknown at this stage. Supermarkets ( essentials) huge breeding ground. If it was more of airborne virus . We would all be in trouble
I agree this will be one of the major influences in all our lives our lives finances, families, jobs all over the world this is alot bigger than the toilet paper issue that people seem to think
It's a total stuff up. The West today told everyone it's okay to go fishing.
Reckfish sends out message with guidelines on how to fish safely. A member on this thread contacted FISHERIES & Reckfish today & was told it's okay as long as you follow distancing rules & only take family. How in the name of hell do you & I combat these mixed messages from these sources. like you I fear we'll miss a window of opportunity to get some control of the spread of this curse.
Total stuff up. Prime Minister says ESSENTIAL travel only & then proceeds to totally muddy the waters.
Today's West says it's okay to go fishing. Reckfish sends out a message with guidelines about how to fish safely. A member on this thread phoned Fisheries & Reckfish today trying to do the right thing. He was told by both that fishing was still okay.
Just how the hell are mere mortals like you & I supposed to counteract these messages. I fear we will miss the window of opportunity we have.
is all these clowns off cruise ships just wandering around spreading the shit and putting everyone else at risk,and the bus driver who gets tested and goes straight to work???? all the video with people all bunched up together. much worst then going fishing etc
We headed out yesterday. Got fuel with a glove on and paid with pay pass. Kids and wife in the boat at launch as to not have to touch the jetty of squeeze past anyone. Out the back of GI to a beach with no one at it though lots of boats were out. Closest people were 150m away. Got a feed of herring and the kids had a bit of a reset after a stressful few days.
What was disturbing was boat loads of boomers rafted up at Pig Trough. Lots of boats clearly had people that wouldnt be members of their household.
Speaking to a bloke back at the ramp who had just returned from Rotto (where the kids stayed in the boat) and he said there were boat parties at rotto the night before, before people had to depart the island.
As of today, you can still get a hair cut. You can still go to Things and buy a plastic plant. You can still browse cars at a car lot. Doesnt seem smart to me.
I much prefer the NZ approach though the government are clearly trying to soften the blow which i feel will bite us on the arse and we will still be working from home in 6 months.
In a fire, you listen to the fire chiefs. In a cyclone, you listen to the emergency folks. In a global pandemic, why isnt the government listening to the doctors.
Thankfully i am working from home, the kids are at home and the wife (a self employed beauty therapist) is at home. Time to do some shit around home (between working)
Some good thoughts here by all, even if there are diffences of opinion. At least there is no gunho go fishing with my mates attitude. Personaly I live very close the the sea and can get there without interactions with other memebers of the public. Much better than, going to the shops touching door handles etc etc. I don't plan to fish to exess, but will to help feed me and my family and for the mental health benifits of fishing.
I still need to work, but only one trip to perth to deliver our products for frieght purposes and by any essentials. I still need to eat and wipe my bottom, at least I managed a pack of tiolet paper last week. Though no pasta, flour,etc as the shelves were bare. So I am forced to go back next week and interact with the public at the shops. I suspose we need to put all this in perspective as the the implications of all our weekly activies in speading the disease. No point sitting back and saying I wont go fishing when it can be done safely and then ordering take away food at your own peril.
Hi Pete. You make some excellent points which emphasise the confusion & stuff ups that have resulted. I readily accept that it is damn near impossible to accept that a haircut is acceptable & fishing is not just to use one example. It is for reasons like this (and they are too numerous to list) that many medical experts support a complete lockdown. The National Cabinet has stated that only ESSENTIAL activity should be engaged in. We can object to their definition of what is ESSENTIAL but I can't see fishing as being one.
I drove past the ramp at hillarys the other day andt it was pretty busy.
i am of the firm opinion that we shouldnt be going out fishing. and thats coming form someone whos new boat just arrived on sunday....
it isnt essential.
and once your in your boat you may be isolated, but potential points of contact at the ramp, ticket machines buying bait, refueling....all sorts.
just stay at home, its not a big sacrifice. if we can stop this blowing out, it will be well worth it, and the fishing will be great when we get back to it.
remeber that everything you do will have some impact on those around you.
Paul_86
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Legally yes, morally no
Legally yes, morally no
Simo_
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I disagree, how would I
I disagree, how would I spread it on a boat by myself?
anyway, recfishwest have said all good for fishing and released sensible guidelines.
Bring on April
Paul_86
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Their 1st dot point says stay
Their 1st dot point says stay home when possible, they aren't advocating for people to go fishing, they are recommending people stay home, but people are going to go fishing anyway, so then they go on to tell people how to do it with sticking to the new rules.
Have a read on the Coronavirus thread, in particular Cransy1’s words, hes more qualifies then me, so hopefully people will take his words seriously.
Do some research on this virus, it can live on many different surfaces for long periods of time, for up to 3 days on plastic!
It’s very simple tho, just stay home unless it’s essential.
Paul_86
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Good chance we will be in
Good chance we will be in full lock down before Easter anyway, because people aren't taking this virus seriously.
Deckie
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YES
Yes you can Somo. Recfish have put out a statement linked to the government guidelines.
Recfishwest is urging all WA fishers to take responsibility during the COVID-19 crisis and follow all the recommended precautions by the Government around social distancing and non-essential travel between regions.
We all love fishing and its value for mental health and well-being is greater than ever right now with it providing many in our community a much-needed break during these stressful times.
However, advice from the Government last night was very clear: if you can stay at home, you should stay at home.
We each have a responsibility as fishers to protect ourselves, our families and our community. This means we all need to play our role as individuals and strictly follow the guidance of both the Commonwealth and State Governments to prevent the spread of COVID-19.
Social distancing is a critical component of the current advice.
Social distancing rules for outdoors state that you must maintain 1.5m of space (four square metres) between yourself and another person during non-essential activities. The 1.5m rule applies to boat and land-based fishing. It does not apply to members of your family or household.
In order to do our part in preventing the spread and to save lives, fishers need to:
• Stay home where possible to minimise social interactions.
• Fish locally only, near where you live and limit your time away from home.
• Fish with your direct household members (no mates or extended family).
• Travel directly to and from your home to prevent any social interactions.
• Maintain spatial distancing of 1.5 metres from other people
• Fish alone, with family, or with household members only
• Do not congregate at land-based fishing locations, instead look for more secluded alternatives
• Stay away from popular man-made fishing structures such as jetties
• Do not go fishing if you are in quarantine
• If you are unwell, you must self-isolate, do not go fishing if self-isolating
The situation is rapidly changing and we all have a responsibility to keep ourselves up-to-date and follow the latest advice – we advise people follow the Department of Health’s advice as the most credible source. We will do our best to keep you informed.
Cheers & Stay safe
SeperateKnob
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If the guidelines above are
If the guidelines above are followed I cannot see an issue. No worse than going for a walk for exercise which is totally permissible at this stage. Of course this could change at any moment. How is it morally wrong if the government guidelines are followed?
Striker101
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Yep well said
Yep well said
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selthy
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And far better than a boot
And far better than a boot camp session with 10 others
sea-kem
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Well that's bullshit, my
Well that's bullshit, my boot camp class which trains outside had put in place gov guidlines distancing etc but still copped abuse from passing traffic. But my trainer has decided to go online just for her mental sake and to stop us being yelled at by fucktards who haven't read the gov advice for outdoor gym classes.
Love the West!
Chinbald
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Im thinking
Me and two kids on my boat =90 whiting one kid doesnt want to come. Kid three can stay at home or go school
kids go to school interact with 1000 plus kids x 2 plus me at work interacting with 200 plus
Im thinking I’ll take two kids fishing get 2.3 kg of whiting fillets and drink my allocated one carton for the day. Obviously once return home.
Working from home seems to be ok but no doubt once we are locked in cant happen. I reckon going fishing with the kids tomorrow will prevent a few thousand interactons compounded compared three family members on a boat.
Deckie
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Regions
I think Regions is the key word.
Recfishwest is urging all WA fishers to take responsibility during the COVID-19 crisis and follow all the recommended precautions by the Government around social distancing and non-essential travel between regions.
I also read what crasny wrote and i agree with him totally.
But if i drive with my missus 1 meter beside me, sleep with her 1 meter from me then i cannot see a reason that we can't go fishing together in my boat.
If we get it then we will get it long before we hit the water.
I respect others and especially the elderly, i have elderly parents who i am staying clear of but still talk to them every day.
I do avoid others giving them a good space between us when we meet & make sure i try to maintain clean hands etc.
I also agree that this could escalate in the near future but for now i think i will not stop living, i won't go crazy at the supermarket or bottle shop and try to get out in my boat to releive the stress that everyone is under at the moment. IMO...
Stay healthy folks and look after each other.....
Cheers & Stay safe
D_d_001
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Essential travel only
More travel = more spread.
No one is putting fuel in their boat?
No one is using extra fuel which will require an ealier car fuel up?
I just dont get ...what is not to get.
Striker101
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Just west gloves filling up
Just wear gloves filling up and keep minimum 1.5m distance waiting in line if there is one
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ranmar850
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My boat was fuelled two weeks ago. Or more.
The ramp is less than a K away. I use 10-20 l per day, hold 225. Ute won't need fuel for ages. Fish with my wife. Don't need to go to a tackle store for anything. Don't get anywhere near anyone at the ramp, our ramps are always quiet when there are no tourists about. She is the only who who goes to the shops. Minimise our interactions with others, not that there were many to start with. So, to sum it up, one size may not fit all.
And I can add that I was slated for two days work next week at Dampier. Yes, it was still going ahead, F&A booked. I declined, and gave my reasons, which were pretty bleedin' obvious.
D_d_001
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Heard it all before "already
Heard it all before "already have fuel.....wont see anyone" and all the rest of it. Read my next post cant andt wont stop anyone. If everone does as you do all over Australia. (Says fuck it ramp is empty which of course just means you are relying on others to do the right thing) more interactions will happen. better yet read walfootrots post further down he sounds close to it. You dont have to justify shit to me you just have to justify it to yourself if ....as walfootrot puts it you"dont get lucky.
My posts are not really aimed at anyone in particular and really dont care about individual circumstances. I just know that the more people who dont go out the better this is going to be for all Australians
Subaquatic
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nailed it
nailed it
sea-kem
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But I'm sure you've taken
But I'm sure you've taken into account if you get into the shit out there the risk you pose to first responders and any other medical staff you'll come into contact with. Not to mention tying up valuable resources that will be required to get you or your wife out of there. This is the whole point of not going anywhere. Not having a crack just offering you a viewpoint you might not have thought of.
Love the West!
bsir
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Date Joined: 24/04/11
Home
Im styaing home. Not sure if it is needed, but it sure as sh*t aint gonna hurt.
Chinbald
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Date Joined: 21/02/09
No Fuel needed boat full 220l
Closer to ramp than to Coles
Whiting fillets are essential in our house. Kids get hungry = I just don't get it either... what is not to get. D-d-001, driving to the shop to try to get shit chicken breasts is opening more contamination opportunities than going fishing.
D_d_001
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Date Joined: 09/03/13
I think if you could get
I think if you could get milk bread etc out there then you would have a great point.
If this is a complete substitute run and not an extra one then fair enough
Paul_86
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Date Joined: 27/03/09
Ok. I’m going to post a
Ok. I’m going to post a picture of a graph that might explain why staying at home unless it's essential is critical to how bad corona virus gets in Australia. It's the latest projection of how we can beat this thing, it's not propaganda, it's not fear mongering, it's based off of real data.
I don't know how to post it hear so I will put it in latest images. Please look at it and reconsider your non essential movements.
Brock O
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The basis is to maintain a
The basis is to maintain a safe distance / wash ya fuckin hands, we are not Europe living in shoe boxes piled on to of each other able to cross borders with a 1 hour train ride.
Yes there is the possibility of it looming in the suburbs, but as stated by Gov our infections have come from over seas travel / cruise ships - all of this is traced back with all contacts tested / isolated.
Yes we need to take this serious dont get me wrong...but Gov has set the guidelines..At the moment it is safe to go to the fuel station / coles / boat ramp providing you keep a good distance in my opinion.
I do not think we will get to full lock down....Will not happen!
uncle
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Date Joined: 10/02/07
sounds right
mate
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
biggerfish
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Date Joined: 02/03/09
Hate to say it mate
If you honestly believe what the government is saying that all cases are from overseas travel or from contact with overseas travellers hate to say it but you are an idiot. They are only testing people who have travelled or who have been in contact with travellers that number you see on the news every night the number of new infections that is prob half the number of infections. People are going to hospital with symptoms and being told to go home and isolate no test no verification just told to go home and quarantine for two weeks. Give it two weeks and you will see the true numbers start showing up not from the news but all around you.
stay safe stay strong alone we can all get through this.
Play hard fish harder
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
Read it again Sean...
Read it again Sean...
West Coast
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Date Joined: 10/12/07
The advice is clear.
IF YOU CAN STAY AT HOME, YOU SHOULD STAY AT HOME. Can't be much simpler than that.
I have been asked by two mates to go fishing and diving. FFS what is so hard about this to understand. Posts all over Faceebook about people fishing and diving. Looking for buddies etc. It is taking the piss.
With household members I can sort of understand why people think they can go. But they are still travelling, fueling, interacting, touching etc etc. IF YOU CAN STAY AT HOME STAY AT HOME.
If you go with a mate you are a plain moron who doesn't give a toss about anyone but themselves.
flangies
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Date Joined: 11/05/08
Hasn’t stopped me
Been fishing as usual.
nah stuck in southwest Queensland for a long while
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D_d_001
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I cant and wont stop anybody
I cant and wont stop anybody doing what they will do but Im going to keep posting on here because this is way more important than anyone thinks.
If you think you can go fishing (non essential travel) then what about the people who play tennis at the local court.....they will only drive a short way fill up the tank just a day earlier than usual. only go with family members. what about the guys going camping ....going with family maybe only just duck into one camping shop on the way but will keep their distance. what about the kids skating ....hey it's outside they will stay a distance from others. what about the other 25million Aussies doing what they do because they think it's safe. does anyone on here think there will be 0 extra casual interactions?
I have been watching this since February.
I posted in the corona virus thread on the 22 mar when cases in Aust were 1200ish ....now about 3000 that we know of. We are on the same track as Italy the way we are going. (Although the USA will cop it worst and will have most infections by a few days)
Before you go out spend a few hours looking at youtube Italy crisis. spend some time educating yourself on this problem. I have been following worldometer corona virus for a month now and it is scary.
All over Australia hospitals are converting waiting rooms, wards and absolutely any and all spare space they have in preperation for what is to come. do you think they do this for no reason?
Final thought: Italy has at the moment aproximatly 1.2 people infected per 1000 of it's population and people are dying inthe coridors unable to be treated. the Army hase been called in to truck away the bodies. China at it's peak brought in 25 x 5 tonneincinerators. (incinerators that can handle 5 tonnes of human flesh per day). Some estimates comeing from virologists say that 20% - 60% of Australians will get Corona virus (200 - 600 per 1000 of population) Unless something is done drasticly
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
I have been reluctant to
I have been reluctant to contribute to this rather ridiculous thread.
I totally support Cranzy's post. Like you I have followed the evolving pandemic since it's beginning.
Like you I believe that the decision not to go fishing is a no brainer. In absolutely no way can it be considered essential.
Please everyone look at the graphs being referred to.
I am retired Intensive Care Specialist who spent 30 years at it.
The closest example we have to the Corona pandemic is the Spanish Flu of 1918-19. At that time Australia had a population of approximately 5 million. We lost 12-15000.
This virus has a potential death rate several times higher.
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
I would further state that
I would further state that the posting from Reckfish is one of the most irresponsible posts I've seen from that body.
I have e-mailed them to that effect.
Their message should have been STAY AT HOME. No exceptions.
I know that their are people who will use all sorts of arguments to justify why they can go. These same people will be responsible for the Government having to initiate a total lockdown and believe me it's coming if we don't all take responsibility for our individual actions.
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
Disagree
I strongly disqgree the email sent out by Recfish yesterday afternoon was irresponsible,
They are not the Governement but are directed by the Government as we all are, so until such time as the Government shuts up shop on everyone, what Recfish stated was absolutely correct.
I phoned both Fisheries WA and Recfish on Wednesday asking if going fishing was allowed and was told the same thing by both parties, and that was, until the beaches are closed and as long as you maintain social distancing then it is allowed.
Perhaps you would have been better off venting your thoughts to the Premier or perhaps the Prime Minister.
Like you I am retired and like probably everyone on this page and everyone in the country I do not wish to contract this disease or do I wish for others to contract it.
I could go on and apportion blame at different state authorities etc, there is nothing to be gained from that, it will not stop the virus, which by the way doesn't discriminate.
These are my thoughts to which I believe I am entitled.
Skull
sealure
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Thanks Skull. You spoke to a
Thanks Skull. You spoke to a different person to the one who responded to my e-mail. If necessary I could forward their responses to confirm their legitimacy.
Reckfish was aware that there were people who would go fishing regardless and therefore felt obliged to put forward some guidelines.
In a subsequent communication they acknowledged that on social media some people were misinterpreting the real thrust of their message.
And yes you are absolutely entitled to your thoughts.
Skull
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Date Joined: 03/01/12
Sealure
I never doubted that you contacted them so need to forward email as proof,
I simply think that the message, based on Government (Federal and State) requirements and guidelines at the time was corect.
Sadly all things are open to interpretation and that is why I phoned to check as I am not wanting to be seen doing the wrong thing.
Again what was announced today and comes into effect at Midnight Tuesday re regionall travel is not enough, again my opinion.
Also I was not attacking your character or expreience as your stated qualifications are far above mine.
Skull
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
Thanks again Skull. The
Thanks again Skull.
The confused messages we are getting is causing all of us unnecessary worry and distress.
I hope you & yours stay safe during this challenging time.
NORUN NOFUN
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Date Joined: 15/08/11
Certainly interesting times
Certainly interesting times on who actually takes this seriously and who doesn't, it's not hard to make a small commitment to limit your interactions and just stay home at a time when it's needed most. Is it immaturity, arrogance or are these people purely apathetic ?
The careless actions of just a few can potentially make this problem drag on and potentially cause harm to those who least need it.
Limit your interactions and stay at home as much as possible, your loved one's may actually be the one's most grateful.
Simo, ask yourself this : By heading out for a fish, am I being the best possible person I can be during a time of crisis ?
Michael Yoni
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Date Joined: 02/01/11
Met this old chap in our
Met this old chap in our local butcher yesterday morning, he bought a kilo of chicken necks and we got talking. He was going crabbing on his own to catch his weekly feed.
He lives across from the river foreshore so he drags his small dinghy across the road and drops his pots.
These guidlines certainly does cause polar discussions.
Walfootrot
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Date Joined: 23/07/12
Such an Inconvenience not
Such an Inconvenience not being able to go fishing?
My sons wife is a nurse as are some of her friends, they are the ones that will be at the hospitals treating the sick, and being exposed. they are the ones that will be self isolating from their families to prevent the spread to their loved ones.
Each time you leave your house you increase the risk of exposure and the risk of bring it back to your house and family. If luck hold out for you, all good.
If not then you will end up being part of the spead of corona.
How fucking hard is it for you to just stay at home? Just go out if you realy need to ( food!)
Can you not see what is happening with the rest of the world?
You expect our health care workers to look after the sick, put them selves and their families at risk ( or isolate from their loved ones ) but you want to go fishing FFS.
Time to have a good hard look at whats going on.
The longer this lasts the longer the pain, be part of the solution not part of the problem.
We will be in full lockdown soon enough due to people not doing the right thing anyway.
Keep safe people
Pete
More drum lines, kill the bloody sharks!
Septimus
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Date Joined: 14/11/10
SPOT ON!!
I agree completely with your post Walfootrot!!
I can't believe some of the crap that has been posted on this thread??
Clearly, given the attitude and actions of some, we are not that far away from a full, government mandated lockdown!
Stay safe ALL!!
West Coast
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Date Joined: 10/12/07
anti vaxxers
Those that go fishing are like the anti vaxxers. They rely on the rest on the rest of us doing the right thing.
Swompa
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Date Joined: 14/10/12
That is one of the most
That is one of the most stupid things i have read on the internet.
Swompa
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Date Joined: 14/10/12
That is one of the most
That is one of the most stupid things i have read on the internet.
sunshine
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Date Joined: 03/03/09
Busy as a weekend on VMR today
Lots of fishermen social distancing in perfect fishing conditions
SeperateKnob
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Date Joined: 28/11/16
Travel to the bottle shop
Travel to the bottle shop must be essential
Alan James
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Date Joined: 30/06/09
Boat ramps closed
It is not often I am complementary about the NZ Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern however I see all public boat ramps are /or are being closed and barricaded preventing public access. The NZ Coastguard (equivalent of our VMR services) has alerted the public they will not respond to call outs as it puts their volunteers in danger. If you need help contact the Police, who are obligated to assist.
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
And yet we can all
Go get hair cut ? Full lock down on way real soon .
Brock O
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Date Joined: 11/01/08
Not sure why people reference
Not sure why people reference Italy and Europe...different ball game in terms of geographic and there medial system.
Australia 427 new cases yesterday - 287 today.
As of this morning the WHOLE of WA had 204 cases...that will jump in a few days after the cruise ship is accepted with isolation beginning on Rotto (14 day Period).
Lady from work just returned from abroad...She mentioned a few arrests had been made with people not complying....between Thailand and Australia she had at least 10 temperature and body scans for the virus....she is now in a 14 day isolation period at home....not to leave the house at all, she stated the home food delivery service is behind but was able to get her food and alcohol delivered. this is in place so that if she does have the virus within a 14 period she will know or if did it is dead and no longer a risk.
Can a medical expert please confirm the virus dies within 14 days ?.....theirs a few on here so no better place to ask..
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
I think the 14 days is if
I think the 14 days is if you are asymptomatic it will show itself sooner or later.
I actually know a couple who both have it after returning from NZ. He said their quarrantine will finish two days after showing no more symptoms.
Love the West!
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
Hi Brock. I'm a retired
Hi Brock. I'm a retired Intnsive Care Specialist not a Virologist but will do my best to answer your question.
14 days is thought tobe the maximum time during which you would develop symptoms from the time of contact with an infected person. There have been isolated reports where a longer interval has occurred but I have been unable to verify these
Once infected the time it takes to recover will vary from patient to patient.
Outside the body the virus has been reported to survive on one of the cruise ship surfaces for at least 17 days.
Hope this helps
crasny1
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Date Joined: 16/10/08
I will try and thank you
I will try and thank you sealure.
There has been an outlier case with a 24 day incubation period but the WHO that is was probably a second exposure to another "Carrier". Thus WHO has not changed the 14 days period.
Hope this help and keep up the big fight. Sealure and my retired Anaesthetist father should be enjoying retirement, and I desperately hope we dont get to the point where we have to call up their help as in other countries.
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
Ericl
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Date Joined: 02/05/11
NZ PM
Hey Alan,
Dont know why you're not complimentary abount Jacinda Ardern. I think she is one of the best leaders in the world today. Also, in my opinion, the 2 best are both women, the other is Angela Merkel
Cheers
Eric
Don't spend all your money on beer, boats, and fishing. Save some to spend foolishly
sea-kem
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And Merkel being a scientist
Love the West!
Alan James
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Date Joined: 30/06/09
...
Jacinda Ardern has been groomed from school age to be a politician. She speaks well and appears to have a Wonder Woman status across the world. She knows how to milk a situation for what its worth and thus comes across very well from a humanitarian perspective. Unfortunately she has no fiscal policies that will benefit NZers and will ruin the country in my opinion.
The following was said by Stephen Toplis, head of research at BNZ Markets, following the feel good ''Wellness Budget".
"... the data clearly show future fiscal surpluses will come under increasing pressure from the combination of rising expenditure, slowing GDP growth and the lack of an obvious way to meaningfully enhance revenue...."
The upcoming election this September will tell us what the Kiwis think.
Having said that COVID-19 will now provide her with a perfect opportunity to sell to the country the reasons why fiscal goals haven't been met.
Simo_
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I'm sorry I asked... This
I'm sorry I asked... This reminds me of facebook....
Bring on April
SeperateKnob
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Where is it reported VMR have
Where is it reported VMR have closed? If so recfishwest should be notified.
sunshine
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Date Joined: 03/03/09
Don’t think you read the post very well
VMRs fully operational in the west but operating with minimum crew levels and, where possible operating the radio rooms from home using "wave" ......radios were the busiest I have experienced midweek
Willlo
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Date Joined: 07/10/11
It's not hard , if you give
It's not hard , if you give a fuck about your fellow Aussies you will stay at home as per suggested , then it will all end a lot faster .If you don't give a fuck go out , and prolong the misery. I could 'nt afford to go out any way as work has dried up and with outlook the way it is , its only getting worse, so by all means go fishing , go to the servo , go to the bait shop . Hope you don't break down and need assistance putting rescue at risk. Fuck me i'm over all the me me me attitudes. If we stand united we can knock it on the head and get back to normal.
Over and OUT
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meglodon
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Right on willo
You have hit the nail right on the head.
I love my fishing like everyone else on this site, however , there is no way you could describe it as an essential activity and people who come up with bloody creative reasons why they can continue to go fishing are IMO are selfish self centred bottom feeders with no sense of sprit.
SeperateKnob
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Date Joined: 28/11/16
If the gov is the authority
If the gov is the authority were serious all retail would be shut eg bunnings Kmart supercheap etc. and boat ramps blocked. Not going to do much good if a handful of us are making the moral decision
Chinbald
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Date Joined: 21/02/09
Agreed
The local Dan Murphy store is where all the action happens.
little johnny
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More chance on getting it
At supermarket where everyone is acting like idiots. Good old milk man making a come back. Nice to see
Simo_
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Date Joined: 13/11/06
Can admin close this thread
Can admin close this thread please
Bring on April
Deckie
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Yep
Getting a bit like that hey Simo.
I can't see the reason folks are abusing others with all the name calling because the rules are not clear and stated.
NOR boat ramps were packed testerday so what is that saying ?????
Be safe.
Cheers & Stay safe
SeperateKnob
Posts: 668
Date Joined: 28/11/16
Exactly Deckie. There is a
Exactly Deckie. There is a lot of confusion not helped by the fact recfishwest first point is stay home when possible then next point is fish locally etc with the following conditions.....
These guidelines together with the most big retailers still operating would give one the impression fishing is ok if strict rules are followed. A lot of unfounded abuse going on
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
You done nothing
Wrong by asking question .
Simo_
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Date Joined: 13/11/06
True. But it’s turning into a
True. But it’s turning into a clown show on forums and Facebook.
Bring on April
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
Everyone worried
About unknown. Jobs/health issues list goes on. My wife self isolated weeks ago. My daughters both nurses. Don’t come around at all . Her friends don’t come over.Wife has no immune system at all . I don’t go to bait shops / I use gloves at petrol station / don’t go to shops . Don’t use public ramp . Always wash my hands . My fishing has slowed down ( but I still go) I work in a refinery .( scary) . Hygiene hygiene wash wash. Avoid close contact Or groups . I thought fishing would be safe ? Not disagreeing with anyone by all means. Even my wife’s specialist said quote ( safer to be on water away from people) she doesn’t fish by the way . I suppose it’s how you get there . I don’t think wa will let it get as far as some country’s have . All unknown at this stage. Supermarkets ( essentials) huge breeding ground. If it was more of airborne virus . We would all be in trouble
still trying
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I agree this will be one of
I agree this will be one of the major influences in all our lives our lives finances, families, jobs all over the world this is alot bigger than the toilet paper issue that people seem to think
rather be fishing
crasny1
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Date Joined: 16/10/08
I havent read all the post
I havent read all the post above. Cant be bothered as I am busy trying to fight this bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Shut the F%#k up!!" should be our new catch cry. And I dont mean dont talk. I mean shut yourself in at home as much as you can.
No more to say but please please listen, or we ARE going to loose plenty of LOVED ones.
Doc
"I would like to die on Mars. Just not on impact!!" _ Elon Musk
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
It's a total stuff up. The
It's a total stuff up.
The West today told everyone it's okay to go fishing.
Reckfish sends out message with guidelines on how to fish safely.
A member on this thread contacted FISHERIES & Reckfish today & was told it's okay as long as you follow distancing rules & only take family.
How in the name of hell do you & I combat these mixed messages from these sources.
like you I fear we'll miss a window of opportunity to get some control of the spread of this curse.
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
Total stuff up. Prime
Total stuff up.
Prime Minister says ESSENTIAL travel only & then proceeds to totally muddy the waters.
Today's West says it's okay to go fishing.
Reckfish sends out a message with guidelines about how to fish safely.
A member on this thread phoned Fisheries & Reckfish today trying to do the right thing. He was told by both that fishing was still okay.
Just how the hell are mere mortals like you & I supposed to counteract these messages.
I fear we will miss the window of opportunity we have.
uncle
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Date Joined: 10/02/07
what pisses me off
is all these clowns off cruise ships just wandering around spreading the shit and putting everyone else at risk,and the bus driver who gets tested and goes straight to work???? all the video with people all bunched up together. much worst then going fishing etc
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
2 cruise ships moved
From gauge roads . Anchored up straight in front of work. Must be so navy can keep an eye on them ?
uncle
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Date Joined: 10/02/07
exellent rules changed
where ever you land you will be isolated for 2 weeks, no going home
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Swompa
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Date Joined: 14/10/12
We headed out yesterday. Got
We headed out yesterday. Got fuel with a glove on and paid with pay pass. Kids and wife in the boat at launch as to not have to touch the jetty of squeeze past anyone. Out the back of GI to a beach with no one at it though lots of boats were out. Closest people were 150m away. Got a feed of herring and the kids had a bit of a reset after a stressful few days.
What was disturbing was boat loads of boomers rafted up at Pig Trough. Lots of boats clearly had people that wouldnt be members of their household.
Speaking to a bloke back at the ramp who had just returned from Rotto (where the kids stayed in the boat) and he said there were boat parties at rotto the night before, before people had to depart the island.
As of today, you can still get a hair cut. You can still go to Things and buy a plastic plant. You can still browse cars at a car lot. Doesnt seem smart to me.
I much prefer the NZ approach though the government are clearly trying to soften the blow which i feel will bite us on the arse and we will still be working from home in 6 months.
In a fire, you listen to the fire chiefs. In a cyclone, you listen to the emergency folks. In a global pandemic, why isnt the government listening to the doctors.
Thankfully i am working from home, the kids are at home and the wife (a self employed beauty therapist) is at home. Time to do some shit around home (between working)
uncle
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Date Joined: 10/02/07
because
they have chief medical officers,i think their doctors
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Swompa
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Date Joined: 14/10/12
Point being you hear more
Point being you hear more from Scomo rather than the CMO
little johnny
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Date Joined: 04/12/11
See police been patrolling around
Cruise ships . Good time for me to sand boat down and get top re done. Everyone keep safe
choc
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Date Joined: 05/01/12
I think they want us to stay
I think they want us to stay home so the government can cull all the sharks without anyone seeing.
So, whats everyones thoughts on shark culling?
Pete F
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Date Joined: 07/01/18
Some good thoughts here by
Some good thoughts here by all, even if there are diffences of opinion. At least there is no gunho go fishing with my mates attitude. Personaly I live very close the the sea and can get there without interactions with other memebers of the public. Much better than, going to the shops touching door handles etc etc. I don't plan to fish to exess, but will to help feed me and my family and for the mental health benifits of fishing.
I still need to work, but only one trip to perth to deliver our products for frieght purposes and by any essentials. I still need to eat and wipe my bottom, at least I managed a pack of tiolet paper last week. Though no pasta, flour,etc as the shelves were bare. So I am forced to go back next week and interact with the public at the shops. I suspose we need to put all this in perspective as the the implications of all our weekly activies in speading the disease. No point sitting back and saying I wont go fishing when it can be done safely and then ordering take away food at your own peril.
Cheers
sealure
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Date Joined: 19/05/12
Hi Pete. You make some
Hi Pete. You make some excellent points which emphasise the confusion & stuff ups that have resulted. I readily accept that it is damn near impossible to accept that a haircut is acceptable & fishing is not just to use one example. It is for reasons like this (and they are too numerous to list) that many medical experts support a complete lockdown.
The National Cabinet has stated that only ESSENTIAL activity should be engaged in. We can object to their definition of what is ESSENTIAL but I can't see fishing as being one.
Subaquatic
Posts: 514
Date Joined: 23/04/11
Stay at home
The minute you step outside your house, you force others to exposure. Police, Ambos , Fire, RAC, VMR etc.
Reduce the load on our essential services, Stay the f&@$ at home. The fish will be there in a few months time.
Sea goat
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Date Joined: 26/03/17
I drove past the ramp at
I drove past the ramp at hillarys the other day andt it was pretty busy.
i am of the firm opinion that we shouldnt be going out fishing. and thats coming form someone whos new boat just arrived on sunday....
it isnt essential.
and once your in your boat you may be isolated, but potential points of contact at the ramp, ticket machines buying bait, refueling....all sorts.
just stay at home, its not a big sacrifice. if we can stop this blowing out, it will be well worth it, and the fishing will be great when we get back to it.
remeber that everything you do will have some impact on those around you.
dodgy
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Date Joined: 01/02/10
Dampier boat ramps were the
Dampier boat ramps were the busiest I've ever seen them today.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Faulkner Family
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Date Joined: 11/03/08
Went for a drive down there
Went for a drive down there early today. Heaps of boats out at about 7. On way back to karatha just about every 2nd car had a boat behind it
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
sealure
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Sadly it would seem that
Sadly it would seem that death is the only certain force that is capable of stopping irresponsible behaviour in some groups.
uncle
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and yet mcclown backflips
and puts all the docs. and nurses at risk as well as us???
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
sea-kem
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That was a Federal
That was a Federal directive, not a state decision.
Love the West!
uncle
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he was the one
posturing about it
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
sea-kem
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Jesus Unc he's the one who
Jesus Unc he's the one who had to deal with it, I take my hat off to the bloke. Would you want his job at the moment?
Love the West!
SeperateKnob
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All boat ramps in Rockingham
All boat ramps in Rockingham today were packed. No parking available