China bans Aussie imports of rock lobster
WA'S rock lobster industry is in chaos after the Chinese government imposed restrictions on the state's exports, with prices for the shell fish plummeting.
Fisheries Minister Norman Moore today called on the Federal Government to urgently discuss the Chinese restrictions.
Earlier today, it was reported exporters were told that China would not accept imports, pending negotiations with Australian officials.
Only Australian lobster imports have been banned, while New Zealand and South Africa can still sell to China.
No explanation was given as to why only Australian imports were banned.
Mr Moore said the news has forced the lobster price down.
“WA is the largest exporter of rock lobster from Australia to China,” he said.
“At the start of the season it was expected that up to 60 per cent of this year’s total allowable catch of 5,500 tonnes would be exported live to China.
“Lobster fishers need to be mindful of likely lower returns while the situation continues and make their own business decisions on whether they fish or not.”
Mr Moore said there were alternative markets for WA rock lobsters, including Japan, Taiwan, the United States and some parts of Europe.
“Some markets are price sensitive and may take more lobsters as prices fall. While they may be less lucrative, they provide options for our exported lobsters,” Mr Moore said.
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OLD BANGA
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Crayfish into China
I was talking to a pro crayfisherman yesterday and he advised me the Korrean conflict has caused the closure of some parts of the Cinese border which is preventing a lot of the transport of the crayfish into China, the Chinese are woried about security, someone trying to sneak in a bomb in a crayfish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is amazing how the world can be affected by conflict between two parts of the same country fighting each other. Didn't the Ameriacns assist the North Korreans in the first place now they are assisting the South, there seems to be a patten of the Yanks encouraging conflict for their own means, am I being too suspecious.
Old Banga!
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Stevef
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Off the mark there
Off the mark there Banga.
The Americans, and Australia (under the UN), assisted South Korea during the Korean war which was started by a North Korean invasion. China got involved on the NK side and the war was called to a halt with the borders as they are now, however an official state of war still exisits between the two Koreas
NK are a genuine "rogue state" and pose a serious threat to the region.
Steve
carnarvonite
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Live crays
Its the export of live crays that is most affected causing the beach price to drop from $53 down to $30. Most of the fishermen have pulled their pots out of the water waiting for the price to go back up because with the newly introduced quota system they want to get as much per kilo as possible.
100% of the live crays exported go by air freight and are usually on a plane inside of 5 hours of being taken from the holding tanks at the factories so I've got no idea why border crossings with Korea would affect it.
Fathom
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deleted subject.. censored?
I posted about this yesterday and it was removed....hmmm
Man Overboard
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Maybe you need your glasses
Maybe you need your glasses checked matey
Jody
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Too much red Vince?
deleted subject.. censored?
I posted about this yesterday and it was removed....hmmm
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/china-not-buying-lobsters
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Shorty
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I thought it was the
I thought it was the japanese that took most of our crays,,that must be wrong,,,
Time to look at other markets and not just putting all the eggs into one basket,,(or a lot of eggs)
If anybody has to many drop them off here,i will give you 2 cents apiece for the tastless critters,,
The poor mans crab,,,
Fathom
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Go easy
I couldnt find it as I was curious to what the response was...my eyesight is fine and I dont drink red during the day, so where was it and has it just been re-instated?
Adam Gallash
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there
Has been there all along, was nothing removed last night.
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Tony Halliday
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maybe the Chinese can see we
maybe the Chinese can see we need to limit our catch to preserve our stocks...if we can't make the decision, they just did it for us....( yes I’m sarcastic folks… :-) lol)
good news for the rec divers and rec pot folks....but will we really see cheap crays in the shops??? I think not, they will just screw us for the cash they losing overseas.
On a different note, but connected…
I have seen heaps of cheap crayboats online for sale, that’s going to get a whole lot cheaper and more soon!
you can even get a 65 foot boat with good engine for under $250k theses days and as low as $150k for a 40 footer West Coaster... now where is my powerball ticket?
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hekser
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this sucks for the pro fisherman
but its great for pro cray eaters :D
iana
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I say retaliate.
If they ban crays we ban their junk from entering Australia, that would cover pretty well all of their exports to Aus.
hekser
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i rekn if they dont want our crays
they cant have our ore.
i know it will never happen but australia should be in the position to dictate terms.. ffs . we getting bent over that barrel holding our ankles and saying please slam it in my a$$
MattMiller
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One can only
imagine the balls up that would cause. Our economy would self destruct and we would be on the bones of our arse in no time. Unfortunatly were tied to China and there's nothing we can do about it.
Fathom
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chillout hekser
We really do need to be exporting IMO at present, dont piss them off or you and I and every Australian might regret that lost sale in the long run...we are still the lucky country but that can change overnight.......chill out
hekser
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yer pretty much
i blame it on the fktards who voted for kevin rudd and in turn the redheaded skank...
you fail labor party.
on a side note, i agree fathom.. i have too much $$ invested in the mining sector to seriously want that to happen... :O
MattMiller
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Blame what?
exporting iron ore?
hekser
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i blame everything on them
if you voted labor, do australia a favour and go shoot yourself. i heard there was a few more boats of "refugees" landed last week...
i got a speeding ticket yesterday.. that was their fault too. f u labor :(
Lamby
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Dude you have had waaaay too
Dude you have had waaaay too much "afternoon delight"
Fathom
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Troll?
Troll?
Jody
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Nope
guess again
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Fathom
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hmmmmm
Chinese? nope that doesnt fit ...maybe a NZ crayfisherman ?
Jody
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Too complex
something simpler
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MattMiller
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HAHA
this always amuses me. In elections you vote for the local member, not the leader. Down here (busselton) we have a hopeless federal member who is liberal. Unfortunatly she is more interested in photo opportunities and feel good stories than actually doing anything for her electorite . That's why i didn't vote for her.
Don't get me started on that wankstain Buswell
Adam Gallash
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back on track
Back on track, no more political discussion or the thread goes. Politics and religion are 2 things that won't be 'debated' on this FISHING site.
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hekser
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lol
i havent had any "afternoon delight" for a few days. i just dislike the labor party. if anyone has had bad luck lately.. blame it on them...
hekser
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faircall
im just a bogan. i hate everything that isnt vb, fishing or what i like... :P
MattMiller
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Sorry Adam
consider my wrist slapped
hlokk
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Back on
Back on topic:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/12/01/3081192.htm
I wonder if it is actually illegal trade to go through Hong Kong. Seems like it could be a legal loophole, just one China doesnt like.
The explanation I heard before was that Australia didnt have a trade agreement and by stopping a lucrative export, they can create leverage. (Of course, they wouldnt do it for iron or gas, but crays dont halt industry in China).
I liked one persons suggestion for retaliation. Stop exporting abalone. Haha. Then wait for them to reverse their ban (shouldnt take long).
NOHA
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South Korea
I think its more of a retaliation to do with our support of South Korea...politics at its nastiest..
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hlokk
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According to the recently
According to the recently wikileaks, China are questioning whether NK is a valuable ally and at the moment arent really that involved.
Surely South Africa and New Zealand would both support SK too? However, they both have trade agreements as far as I remember.
Tony Halliday
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both South Africa and NZ
both South Africa and NZ fought the north in the 1950's Korean war.
Nope this has naught to do with politics and everything to do with a trade marine & farming sales agreement, watch this space!
5 year fixed lobster price at $40 /kg, lowering of tariffs on imported Chinese seafood, veggies & fruit. They have picked on commodity that can hurt us real well and truly and will squeeze us with it till they get what they want some where else.
As for us not selling iron ore / LNG etc to them, get real. Australia would be a basket case in less than 6 months with 20% unemployment if china did not take our raw ore, we need them a hell of a lot more than they need us. They a communistic dictatorship that would starve their folks in region to death to prove a point, jst look at the 3 Gorges Dam, they moved 3million by force out of a region to build it.
My view is we put all our eggs in one basket and they kicked it over. Cray boys should have had their markets spread more evenly around the world. BASIC marketing rules, don't let one buyer control your product!
We should have controls on our exports that no one economy takes more than 30~40% of a product.
Tony Halliday: ~Meals on Reels ~
It takes a strong fish to swim against the current. Even a dead one can float with it
"It is always in season for old men to learn." Aeschylus (525-456 BC)
"In a mad world only the mad are sane." Akira Kurosawa (1910-1998)