fish identification
Submitted by just dhu it on Wed, 2011-05-11 22:54
we were out out south passage and Deckie caught this trevally , can some one identify
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cool41
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thats a diamond trevally:)
thats a diamond trevally
:)
Leemo
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im not sure its a diamond,
im not sure its a diamond, because diamonds have a much straighter foreheade etc. it is very similair thouhg, i remember a photo like this one a while back but cant remeebr what it was.
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cool41
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could be a bumb nose
could be a bumb nose trevally
till
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african pompano
African Pompano?
crasny1
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Yes thats it
Or the other name is Pennant fish from my recollection.
Neels
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Ryan C
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pennant fish
thats a pennant fish for sure i think
MattMiller
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Fishwreckapedia
try having a look about 2/3 of the way down the first page. You can see the difference between the Diamond Trevally and Pennant Fish (African Pompano).
This ones a little dufficult, i'm leaning towards a Bumpnose Trevally though it is way over the 32cm growth? Trickey one.
http://fishwrecked.com/content/fishwreckapedia
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Matty
I think African Pompano or pennant fish can grow massive. I recall a picture in one of WA fishing magazines (can remember which one) a cover picture of a huge one that makes the size of GTs look small.
Neels
EDIT: and the 3 brown stipes is an identifying feature
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MattMiller
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Yeah
i've seen a few pics of big Pompano inc. the cover of Western Angler a while ago. Great fish.
I was thinking along the lines of Bumpnose Trevally with the head shape but in Fishwreckapedia it say they only grow to 32cm so I guess that kinda rules them out. Probably Pompano would be the closest.
Certainly an interesting specimen whatever species it is. A while back I read an article in Modern Fishing where a Marine Biologist was discussing cross breading amongst Trevally species. Now if that occurs it will just stuff everyone.
Adam Gallash
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pennant
I'd go a pennant fish.
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southcity104
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Got connected..
to a few off coral bay years back. They go hard!!
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cool41
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the pennat fish has a different dorsal fin
the pennat fish has a different dorsal fin
stilly
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good call
anal fin in first pic above there is no anal fin, till's pic has the three bars but quite a large anal fin (may be hidden by the blokes hand) also there are two spikes forward of the dorsal in tills pic different fish
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A Diamond with the bottom jaw
A Diamond with the bottom jaw pulled forward by the grips I reckon (note the throat latch extended out), also the angle of the dorsal area just before the dorsal fin, distance of eye from the jaw and body shape angling down to a very thin tail wrist.
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hlokk
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Had a look through my fish ID
Had a look through my fish ID book and the only two options were diamond and pennant. Def looks like a pennant from the pic.
Daisy: the mouth is certainly extended a bit, but its quite clear in the book that the diamond has a concave nose, while the pennant has a convex nose with a little bump near the eye. Even though the mouth is out, it wont change the shape above the lips. The angle of the dorsal area looks similar on both species, but the book is showing the pennant with a more rounded 'corner' than the diamond which fits the pic. The gill plate also looks like a pennant rather than a diamond, but a little hard to see in the photo. The book doesnt show a thinner tail wrist. It mentions that the main difference between them is a more rounded head and an eye closer to the mouth. The diamond has a quite clear sharp/concave head and the eye on that pic matches a pennant. That fish does show a longer dorsal than the book, but perhaps its at a size where the long juvenile tail hasnt completely dissapeared.
Says both differ from other trevallies by not having scales.
Edit: found a pic of a diamond with its mouth open: http://www.seafaris.com.au/images/reports/416/416_diamond.jpg
alfred
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This is a threadfin trev or
This is a threadfin trev or African Pompano or pennant fish, so I am wondering if the male and female have different fins?
hlokk
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The juveniles have long
The juveniles have long flowing fins several times their own body length, but they loose them as they grow older. Not sure if any differences for male and females at the same size though.
Check this one out: http://www.oceanwideimages.com/Large-Image.asp?pID=16495&cID=731&rp=categories.asp?cID=731&p=10