LB REEL help
Submitted by ADAMANGLER on Tue, 2011-03-15 20:49
hi guys, Im very new to over head reels. Being from a small country town in tasmania for the last 25 years, I didnt really have the need for such gismos. Im just wondering, I want to know what would be a good over head reel that I could spool with 80lb braid, has good casting abilities, and a strong smooth drag. Ill mainly be casting off the beach slide baiting, or ballooning for sharks or spaniards up north, I want about 500m line capacity also. Im thinking the TLD 30 but if anyone here has any better suggestions, please speak up? :-)
Brucesta
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for casting i'd pick
for casting i'd pick something with an open spool. Daiwa Saltist O/H or Sealine casting reel or go Shimano and pick up a Torium/Trinidad
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spanishmackeral
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just out of interest how far
just out of interest how far can you cast with an overhead? thats of course after you learn to cast an overhead
Leemo
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i used to be able to cast my
i used to be able to cast my Penn enforcer just as far as spin gear, with the right weight of course. suited to a light 10ft rod. pitty i left it at north mole one night. was a good combo.
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John_M
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Ideally an overhead reel
Ideally an overhead reel should cast further than a spinning reel
cuthbad
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an overhead with the right
an overhead with the right rod, line and sinker will outcast a spinning reel by a very significant distance IMO. People will argue this and yes it depends what weights you are casting etc. I have just started hitting 120m (measured) with an 8Oz sinker using 50lb mono and have only been using them like 9 months. I know people using similar gear who can hit 140m +
Casting heavy weights with braid on an overhead is a recipie for disaster especially to begin with. Overwinds will be expensive and theres always that friend of a friend who lost a finger lol.
two great value for money reels are the torium (30 size is prob most suitable) or the daiwa sealine sl50shk, saltist is also a great reel but a bit more pricy.
If your gonna be doing alot of casting and sliding maybe think about braid backing and about 180m of mono top shot?
garethgkr
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Hey cuthbad, im guessing
Hey cuthbad, im guessing you'be be very good at casting a spinning reel also.
I've been having problems getting my bait a good 50-100m out from the beach.
I can probably cast a fully rigged herring + 100gm sinker on 15kg line maybe 30m and even that my finger feels like its gonna fly of one day.
Any tips?
ADAMANGLER
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@cuthbad, thanks mate, might
@cuthbad, thanks mate, might opt for the torium I think, want to land some big rays and sharks. I noticed you do alot of that sort of thing, also what sort or rod do you use for this type of fishing, I have never cast an over head reel before, are they very hard to learn, any tips?
Brucesta
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spool it with mono first and
spool it with mono first and head to your local oval with a sinker tied to one end and get a feel for it, you don't want to waste fishing time with over-runs in your line or waste braid sorting it out.
start small as well, i also found that instead of a straight over-the top cast i use a more 45 degree angle cast, it's comfortable for me and i can ping a rig on a boat rod with a TLD20 out 50-60m no probs when needed. depends on your rod. 1 tip would be is get the smallest profile reel you can to make casting as easy as can be.
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ADAMANGLER
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Thanks brucesta, Im looking
Thanks brucesta, Im looking at getting the torium 30 as recommended by cuthbad, I just bought 500m of tufline 80lb braid, I will definately be heading to the beach before using that though. They are actually selling them for 200 dollars from the states on ebay, looking at getting one off there unless I can find one for a similar price here, dont suppose you know anywhere?
dkonig82
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Serious respect for anyone
Serious respect for anyone casting 120-140m on an overhead!
I have only given it a few attempts, and have never had much success.
When asked by a non-fisherman 'how many fishing rods do you really need?' the correct answer is either:
n+1 (where n is the number of fishing rods you currently own); or
n-1 (where n is the number of fishing rods which would cause your significant other to dump you.
cudbfishn
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Theres your problem. It will
Theres your problem. It will be hard casting any baited rig 50-100m. It is way easier casting just a sinker. I can get 150m+ penduluming a 4 oz (stepped out but prety much from goal post to goal post on an oval). Can cast a mulie rig about 50-70m. If you want distance then you will hafta change to a slide bait rig.
cudbfishn
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If I had some money I liked
If I had some money I liked the new saltist bg star drag. Only about $250 online. Havent seen them in shops here yet but its been a while since ie been to a tackle shop.
Blue Whaler
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Hi Gareth, - try shaping your
Hi Gareth, - try shaping your mulie, cut off the tail, cut the mulie from tail to head, hook through the head with line in the middle of the body, use a small thin piece of foam over the eye of the hook - about 3 - 4cm in length to enable the mulie to be tied down, can also use a toothpick to push through the hook eye to keep the body of the mulie from moving up and down your line, tie it down with ghost line, use a sinker with cast clip so that the bait and sinker becomes one. I use a 4oz - 5 oz with a mulie bait. Can get nice distance on it. If you dont use a sinker clip the bait will do a helicopter swirling motion, with the sinker clip it goes straight like a normal sinker on its own would. On impact the clip will give away from the bait and the bait will move freely. (Normally I cut, shape a mulie into 2 pieces and use only head section or tail section to get real distance.)
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ADAMANGLER
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just seen the tyrnos 30,
just seen the tyrnos 30, seems that can hold alot more line than the torium 30 although in 400 grams heavier, is this still a good casting reel? for just 10 dollars more is it worth it, campbells are selling the torium for 239 and the tyrnos for 249, which is the better reel for my situation?
Brucesta
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Tyrnos 30 is a big reel and
Tyrnos 30 is a big reel and not suited for casting, i have one loaded with 600m of 15kg as a trolling outfit, it'd take over 1000m or 50lb briad probably and it's bloody big, i'd be looking at at 12/16 tyrnos if you went this way, best bet is to go and have a look at the reels themselves you'll see why.
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wangler
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Penn surfmaster...
If you can get hold of an old Penn 500L series (red or black)I think from memory and load it with 30lb mono, 5oz sinker using a 13 - 15 ft rod to practice on an open field......1 - 3 months to learn is the way to go. Learning with braid could be costly and time consuming untangling, thats why it takes up to 3 months, lol. Look at the South Afican styles, they have been doing it for years. good luck !
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ADAMANGLER
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just searched the 500L and it
just searched the 500L and it can only hold 275 yards on 30lb mono, I think that will be too small for the type of fishing if ill be ballooning and after monster rays and sharks. I have just bought 80lb braid that i want to spool it with. Just incase I do hook up to a monster I dont want to be too under gunned
wangler
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The PENN 500
is just a good learning entry level, not sure how 80lb braid on an overhead will go, you might get the braid binding to too tight on itself causing whiplash.....costly
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cuthbad
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I would stay away from leaver
I would stay away from leaver drags for casting reels. with braid backing you will get plenty of line on the torium.
Theres some great guides to casting on the net by John Holden, cant find them atm though.
As people have said allow some time and cheap line to learn to cast...
As for what kinda rod, I use a loomis sharkey, very stiff rod for casting heavy baits, Blou Walvis mentioned some other very good options the other day on another post as well. Brenz picked up a poseidon 5 piece last week but not sure where he got it, thats another nice rod. Rod depends on a heap of different factors though...
cudbfishn
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The john holden ones have
The john holden ones have been taken off by him as he is selling them i think and on his site only. Not on youtube anymore.
Blue Whaler
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Hi Adam; once youve got your
Hi Adam; once youve got your set up organised and are ready for the beach - start practicing your cast with sinker only.
Couple of pointers that helped me personally when I started out;
1. Start casting with your sinker on the sand behind you at a 45 degree angle.
2. Cast over your shoulder (dont worry about pendulum or whipping the rod.), and dont use 100% power in your cast. Start with trying to get 30 - 40m using 50%.
3. If your right handed; left hand controlling the reel (thumb on the inner drum casing to decrease speed- not the line) and grip the butt, right hand about 50cm - 70cm up the rod.
4. It is a push pull action. Your right hand will push the rod, your left hand will pull the butt towards your body.
Keep it simple and dont force it yet, let the weight of the sinker do the work. Initially - use more force on clamping down the speed of the inner casing untill you are happy that you can let it go for distance.
(Final tip - once you have your reel, before you cast - set the tension of your spool. If you can wiggle it sideways - then it is too loose. Tighten the cast control cap untill the spool cannot move sideways. This is tricky as you do not want spool tightend too much, turn 2mm at time untill the sideways wiggling moving stops. This will control overwinding when you cast.)
Good luck and tight lines buddy.
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DieHard
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Hey manI use the Torium 30
Hey man
I use the Torium 30 but with the loomis sharkey 14ft...
i am right handed but i use my right hand to thumb the spool and my left hand to give it some flick... i have tried to switch but just doesnt turn out well...
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hlokk
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You say you want to run
You say you want to run 80lb. Have you got an appropriate rod to fish it with as well? No point having super heavy braid if the rod cant stand up to it. The other thing is to look at the drag. If your reel does 8kg max, then heavier line cant give you more pressure unless you're thumbing it all the time. Same with the rod, you can point your rod to the line and apply more pressure, but you still need to lever it.
As cuthbad said, dont go a lever drag if you're casting. Braid with a mono topshop would be the way to go. You get more capacity and still have mono for casting/for stretch. If you birds nest it, you only need another 150m topshot (get a 600m spool). A thin braid will help too. Some braids are a lot thinner for their rating (no, whiplash isnt as thin as they claim). My 20lb tufline is pretty thin and certainly stronger than 20lb. I'll have a look later about how much you can fit on some reels (IMO, not much point going a lot bigger than you need). I think 50lb tufline will still be 80lb+ (if you still have the receipt and havent used it). Are you running 80lb mono mainline?
Blue Whaler
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Lastly on the braid /
Lastly on the braid / mono issue; both cuthbad and hlokk is right. Rather go for 50lb - (if you can trade it back) - with the Toruim 30; I have 550mt of 45lb KingFisher braid and about 250 - 300mt worth of .50 giant abrasion mono - if 800mt dont stop the fish then it was never meant to be. With this setup you enough space on the spool for a .90 - 1.2mm leader of 10mt. Cheers.
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brg
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never done it but is it hard
never done it but is it hard to cast with the reel so close to the but
cuthbad
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I back low mounts all the way
I back low mounts all the way for overheads, especially if casting heavier weights and stiffer rods.... takes a bit to get used to but I would never go back now.
Nelly
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I think i can also shed some
I think i can also shed some light on this as i have recently got an overhead for surf casting (trinidad 30dc) and just got back from casting practice....Bit of a learning curve but after a bit of messing about finally got my casts right and was sending them over 100m.Biggest cast was around 108m which i am happy with for my first use of the reel.Some tips i picked up,slow smooth casts go alot of further than trying to force it and have less overruns and as blou said spool tension is important.With my spinning gear i was maxing out around 90m so already casting 18m more.Am confident i should be over 130m in a few weeks time with some more practice....
cuthbad
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hey man, good to hear the
hey man, good to hear the trinidad is treating you well! what r you gonna spool it with?
Good advice regarding smooth casts as well!
brg
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hey guys what length rods you
hey guys what length rods you running?
cudbfishn
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Line capacity on an overhead
Line capacity on an overhead for casting can be counter productive. Bigger spools means more weight, more startup inertia, more effort to slow down. End result is shorter casts and burnt thumbs. Tournament casters casting 300m use very small overheads. ie abu 6500. So bigger is not always better. But of course its for sharks. Most of the south africans use 30 size shimanos. Comprimise between size and capacity and most cast 200m. Most of there rods are 13ft.
ADAMANGLER
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Thanks guys for the help,
Thanks guys for the help, sounds like the toruim is the go, damn! I just spent 75 dollars on 80lb tufline, maybe I should of posted a forum about that too before buying!! yes I am planning to put a mono top shot! I just got a message from the seller on ebay saying it was already posted, bugger! Any way, i might go with about a ten meter 80lb mono leader and just spool the rest with braid, please tell me if this is a bad idea. I dont have a decent rod yet for casting it, I am going to cervantes for easter to try for some sambos, sharks and some big rays, thats why I went the 80lb, what sort of rod do you guys recommend?
DieHard
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Bad Idea....i would
Bad Idea....
i would personally atleast have an extra 30-40m plus your casting distance of topshot... THEN your braid. also remember a few metres of mono then braid otherwise braid to bare spool may lead to your line slipping and not gripping the spool...
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carnarvonite
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Turns
Instead of having the mono directly on the spool before the braid just do 4-5 turns before you tie the knot, not only one.
cuthbad
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mate to be frank in my
mate to be frank in my opinion this is a bad idea.
The advantages of braid are;
1) line capacity; with a torium 30 your gonna fit plenty of line on anyway using braid backing and aprox 150+m of mono.
2) sensitivity; not an issue when fishing for sharks and rays. Trust me mate, they wil just smash it and head for the horizon
3) casing distance; this only applies to spinning reels where there is friction between the rim of the spool and the line. Overheads dont have this issue
Dissadvantages of braid;
1)less resistance to abrasion; very important if your gonna be sliding baits any bigger than a herring and when fighting big fish land based where a fight could potentially last hours. even a sand bank over this time can destroy your line
2)less stretch; fighting a big fish in the surf you need a bit of stretch. 10m of mono wont give you enough i reckon
3) its expensive! throw on braid backing, then 150m or so of mono. as said earlier, after an overwind or even just after a couple of big fights your gonna need to change line, id rather be changing 150m of mono and leaving the brad backing than changing all of the braid
As a final note, 80lb is massive overkill IMO. the reel isnt built for it, your not gonna find a landbased rod thats built for it (apart from maybe some popping rods but they are not built for distance casting) and when running 50lb believe me you can put almost all your weight into the rod. I realise you have already purchased it, but you throw that on an overhead without a decent amount of mono on top and its not gonna last you very long anyway....
ADAMANGLER
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Ok sounds like that line wont
Ok sounds like that line wont be going on my spool, i might see if I can get some 50lb tufline off ebay, anyone want to buy 500m of tufline yellow 80lb braid, it cost me 75 ill sell it for 60, still hasnt arrived yet so its still brand new.
ADAMANGLER
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Thanks guys for all the help,
Thanks guys for all the help, saved me alot of trouble in the future getting the right setup right from the start
Brucesta
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want a really bling real for
want a really bling real for a good price.
Penn International Torque's for $295
http://www.jarviswalker.com.au/media/pdf/Penn_International_Reels_Promotion.pdf
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cuthbad
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that looks pretty reasonable!
that looks pretty reasonable! might have a look some time. havent heard that much about those reels.
have you used one Brucesta?
Brucesta
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nope but needless to say my
nope but needless to say my trolling stocks are being improved by a SA25 Santiago 2 speed from Fin Nor next week
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cudbfishn
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I got one and love it. Only
I got one and love it. Only the trq100 star has the mag cast control. Doesnt hold much line but, got 300m of 50lb braid. Retailed for over 600 bux here when they first come out.
Also forgot ADAM, There is a lever drag reel worth buying for casting and probably in your budget. Its the avet mc. Has the mag cast control. Have heard of plenty of people using them on other forums.Prob is they dont have much drag, well technically they do but you lose freespool which is not ideal for casting.
ADAMANGLER
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ah ok, yeah I sort of need
ah ok, yeah I sort of need something with alot of drag, basically, all im trying to do is get some awesome pics of the biggest rays and biggest sharks I can catch, I love a good hard fight, no matter whats on the end. Just the thrill of being hooked up to something big is awesome. good exercise too. Im still abit stumped on a rod! A few people have a loomis sharkey that seems to handle the big stuff, but im guessing they are expensive, and to be honest, I got into a bit of a verbl argument with the wife just for spending seventy five dollars for fishing line. Is there a good 10 to 12 foot rod I can buy that can handle 10kgs of drag for about 150......thanks again guys.
Brucesta
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i'd keep my eye out for a
i'd keep my eye out for a 24kg LBG rod on here, mate the mrs can't argue when you tell them the price you paid and what it would have cost new, works every time for me :) 14 combos down and still going HAHA!
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hlokk
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Do you tell her the new price
Do you tell her the new price first or the price you supposedly paid?
"How much was it?!"
"Well, they usually go for $500"
*fuming*
"But I got it for $200"
"Wow, i'm so proud of you for getting a great bargain and saving $300!"
Then you hope you dont get: "Now I can spend that $300 you saved on shoes" haha.
Brucesta
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http://fishwrecked.com/forum/
http://fishwrecked.com/forum/xzoga-12ft-sale
Could be an option, handles 50lb line, i know fark all about beach rods, my longest rod is my GT popping rod.
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ADAMANGLER
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Thanks buddy, just sent the
Thanks buddy, just sent the guy a message.
cuthbad
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I see what ya saying man,
I see what ya saying man, and if I knew of a cheaper option id tell ya but the loomis sharkey you can get imported from about $320 which IMO is a bargain for a heavy duty rod. I dont think you will find anything that can cast 9oz at anywhere near that price in Australia. Rangers in osbourn park wanted $600 bucks to get one in for me by the way, i was so shocked at that price im still telling people lol.
Whateva you decide, stay away from any high modulus graphite rods (HMG). if buying graphite enquire about the modulus, I dont fully understand this but south african rods rate the graphite blanks and the standard graphites are something like t24 with HMG rods being around t53. Any little bump on the HMG rods can cause fractures. Having seen a few rods break recently so I think this is important to keep in mind.
also maybe pm brenz about where he picked up the poseidon, I doubt it will be as cheap as importing but might be worth checking.
Ive pulled rays up to about 60kg on normal beach rods ($150 range, ugly stick etc) but any bigger than this and I dont think its gonna happen
DieHard
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i saw those poisidab rods...
i saw those poisidab rods... Just under 600 or something...
Biggest rip off, defiantely get a looomis sharkey or even consider the Elbe range...
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ADAMANGLER
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Thanks again guys! Might post
Thanks again guys! Might post a forum after I get my reel on here to see if anyone has any LBG rods they want to sell me. HAHA hlokk sounds like your an expert on this hey! will give it a shot!! bloody woman complains if I spend 10 dollars on a block of mulies, why dont you just go and buy some fish for 10 dollars she says! I try to tell her its not about the food, its about the adventure and the hunt. Woman will never understand.
hlokk
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Not a chance! Especially not
Not a chance! Especially not on land based fishing. Just like helping out in threads.
Blue Whaler
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LOL - "Woman will never
LOL - "Woman will never understand." - ha ha - yeah right - and then we are not suppose to complain about the 300$ shoes that requires a master degree to walk with! Good one Adam - I think there are more guys out there with the same on going battles! (It will never cease to amaze me?!)
Good luck man!
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Matt T
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Best quote ive ever heard is..
"My biggest fear is that when I die, my wife will sell all my fishing gear for the price I told her I paid for it..."
cuthbad
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haha thats great!!
haha thats great!!
ADAMANGLER
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Its so comforting knowing
Its so comforting knowing that there are so many other gus out there going through the same thing, lol. I might start a little secret savings in a small can and keep it hidden, try and put 50 a week in it, go and buy my rod, hide it with the rest of the cheap just I HAD to buy and she will not even know about it!!!!
brenz
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gday adam i have jus read
gday adam i have jus read this post on your quest for a combo. personally i am using a saltist 40 on a poseidan bantam 5 and love it to pieces. as cuthbad has also suggested the sharky is also a great option. now as im not an "expert " in this area i still feel i have a fair bit of knowledge. ive seen up the post that alot of guys are talking about distance , dont let this intimadate you at all as depending on the area you sometimes can get away with a short "lob". whislt long distance is un doubtably a massive advantage in most circumstances ,its still not the best in all. start at places like floreat groyne were the drop of is almost at your feet, myself and cuthbad fished it the other night and we landed a nice ray from only 60-70m out. back to the rod selections the few i would consider are
loomis franklin sharky
poseiden bantam heavy
asassin
poseiden 3x magnum
and some others that i have heard brilliant reports on are the blue marlin range .
also another site that i would recomend to have a look at is http://www.sealine.co.za/ this site was recomended by cuthbad to me and it has a wealth of info on this particular style of fishing. for any more info on this particular subject i would stronly suggest getting intouch with cuthbad and having a chat as he really knows his stuff.
hope this helps
brenz
ADAMANGLER
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Thanks guys, I went to
Thanks guys, I went to anglers anonymous and put a 9 foot, gary wilson LBG rod on lay by, 310 dollars, It had plenty of backbone on it, Is this a good rod, is 9 foot too small, I asked about this and he told me it was fine? or should I just go back and get a refund for it and go with something a bit more height?
cudbfishn
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If you plan to fish surf
If you plan to fish surf beaches it is way too small. You will also find casting big weights difficult. You can get a poseidon 3xh magnum for 200 bux plus delivery from south africa. 8-9 oz cast, 13 ft.
http://www.fishingtackle.co.za/Poseidon-Surf-Rods/Poseidon-Surf-Rod-3XH-Magnum-13ft-3-piece-XH-8-9oz-tip-sectio.html
brenz
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honestly mate u will regret
honestly mate u will regret buying a 9 ft rod . as cudbfishn said 13ft is the way to go
cuthbad
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yep, as said take it back!!
yep, as said take it back!! the problem is generally when you go into stores and ask for advice most ppl working there have never fished land based game....
brenz
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let alone slid a bait .
let alone slid a bait .
ADAMANGLER
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ok thanks, I just thought it
ok thanks, I just thought it would be good for allround fishing, throwing poppers, boat rod too, ok will take it back and try to get a refund if I can, so what would you say is the best value rod I can get for around 250??? and where would be the best place to get one from?
hlokk
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Depending where you are, it
Depending where you are, it might be good for throwing poppers. I have a nice 9' one that I use for tailor around reefs. 9' is too long to be a boat rod and most beach fishos seem to use 12'+ rods though. Always good to check online before you buy it as theres a wealth of information here who've done heaps of beach fishing (or whatever type of fishing) and are happy to help out.
cudbfishn
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if its an overhead rod forget
if its an overhead rod forget throwing poppers, better done with a threadline. Only thing that that rod will be good for is balooning. Too long for boat. To get a good 12 foot plus overhead rod (new) here for around 250 is a dream, expect 600 plus. Best from south africa as in my last comment. Should be able to get it for around 300 delivered.
cuthbad
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basically mate, when you
basically mate, when you start running 50lb plus line and trying for big sh!t theres no such thing as an all rounder rod.
Decide exactly what style of fishing you are looking at, then a rod can be based around that decision....
Dicey
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Saltiga Ulua is a nice rod
Saltiga Ulua is a nice rod made for slidebaiting for GT, other option is St Croix 12ft mojo surf cast 6-16oz
Blue Whaler
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Just a pointer on the Blue
Just a pointer on the Blue Marlin G3 14ft - excellent rod - had one for about 6 months - great backbone, however the guides are small and does not allow for a leader line. You can remedy this by customizing the G3 BM with size 16 guides. Other than that - awesome rod. The Poseidons and Assasins is well worth the money.
Every day at the Beach is a Good day!
cuthbad
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thats a great point man,
thats a great point man, didnt occur to me till I fished this style for a while how much of an impact guide size can have when casting heavy leaders!
ADAMANGLER
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ok guys, this time before
ok guys, this time before I buy, I have decided to go for the poseidon 3X magnum, fifty pound braid on a torium 30 and about 180 meters of top shot mono.......does this sound like a good combo?
cuthbad
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mate that sounds bloody
mate that sounds bloody awesome, you will pull some big bastards with that!!
brenz
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spot on mate it will be a
cuthbad
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haha I dunno man..... theres
haha I dunno man..... theres a few untoppables around that might even give that combo a run for its money. Will at least be in with a fighting chance though
Lookin forward to some pics of the monsters Adam
brenz
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yeah ok you got me there lol
yeah ok you got me there lol
Blue Whaler
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Good choice! U will not
Good choice! U will not regret.
Tight lines!
Every day at the Beach is a Good day!
cudbfishn
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Hey adam how much was the
Hey adam how much was the delivery??? I want to get one as well. mabee combine postage???
ADAMANGLER
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Hey mate, just sent them an
Hey mate, just sent them an email, couldnt figure out how to call the number they post there, will let you know when I get a reply.
ADAMANGLER
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Just gave south Africa a
Just gave south Africa a call, its about 100 dollars for airmail, which will take about two weeks to arrive, or we can go surface mail, which will take about 8 to 13 weeks and costs about 26 dollars, he said they are running short of stock on the poseidon range and will send me an email with everything that we need to know, ill forward it to you ok when I receive it
cuthbad
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once you have your gear
once you have your gear sorted (and get a bit of casting practice) we should have another shark bash somewhere!
ADAMANGLER
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cant I just get you too cast
cant I just get you too cast it for me, hahahah!!
brenz
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cuthbad
adam you know im in for THat
ADAMANGLER
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Hell yeah Id love that!
Hell yeah Id love that! wouldbe good to go out with you guys and learn a few things, cudbfishin Im not sure about the postage, ill just have a look now and ill let you know before i order it, ill pm you ok.
cudbfishn
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Sweet as man. I might have a
Sweet as man. I might have a mate who wants one as well. let us know ok!!! Should save us some coin if we do a bulk order.
ADAMANGLER
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no worries will let you know
no worries will let you know whats going on as soon as I can.