Poor form from Two Rocks Fisho's
Went out for a fish yesterday off Two Rocks. Never usually fish there because of the crazyness at the ramp.
Got to the ramp at 6:10am to find a que of 13 boats waiting. After 15 mins we had slowly moved up the que when i noticed a nice big Haines Hunter and Partol at the top of the ramp just sitting there. Went for a wander to investigate and the two guys waiting there had a flat battery on the Patrol. They asked if i could jump start them. Sure no problems.
In the whole 20 seconds it took to jump start them i asked how long they had been waiting. he said they had asked around 10 cars and non would help cause they wanted to go out fishing asap. Couldnt belive that 10 fellow fisho's couldnt spend 20 seconds to jump start him. He even had all the leads hooked up ready for a car to help.
Crazy thing is the guys that were waiting for the ramp were all standing around watching others launch and had plenty of time on their hands.
So if this was you who was asked and said no Poor form. hope you caught bugger all all day. Bet if he was down the bottom of the ramp holding up the ramp people would have helped.
Second thing is why dont people use both sides of the ramp? plenty of room to have two boats side by side. I did and got the dirtiest look by everyone. Asked everyone if they wanted to go first and knowone did so i cut the que and used it. Easy as with a few deckies. Even pulled it in with a oversize boat on the jetty side and was no problem at all. I can understand if you have a massive boat but surely its just common sense. Wide enough and can half the time of launching. Just hug the right hand side. reverse slowly off trailer and pick up driver off the jetty when they get there. ???????????
Bodie
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Not everyone has good
Not everyone has good reversing skills. I've got an 8 metre boat, and people don't like it when I use the right hand side. However I don't jump the queue I just wait until the boat in front has launched and is parking, and I will roll down the right side and I jump up and the deckie rolls back in the car and skids the boat off. Then sit out in the water and pick him up from the other side of the jetty.
Saves a little time for those behind me.
Spicey
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Second ramp
We used the otherside late on Saturday morning after waiting for a bloke to amble up and stuff around, with one of is in the boat and the other to back in and drive the boat off. Didn't interfere at all with the peanut taking his boat out but still copped a mouthful from him saying we were being impatient. After waiting our turn in line then having this idiot deliberately taking all the time in the world to pull his boat out!
After all the wait for the works at the ramp they should have just put another finger jetty on the other side and made it a dual lane. We waited 40 minutes when we came in to get the boat out.
Paul H
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Gotta wonder sometimes -
Gotta wonder sometimes - wouldn't have made a lick of difference to anyone's day to help out for 1 minute.
What if the shoe is on the other foot is what I always remember!!
Would have been great if one of the unhelpfuls broke down at sea, I would have made a point of pointing out the lack of help they gave me at the ramp as I towed them in and cut them off telling them to row the last 200 metres...
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petermac
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your dead right
takes bugger all to give a hand , I actually feel good after I give a hand at the ramp , and the older blokes doing it solo always says thanks , what I don't like and have seen it a few times is when the husband and wife duos coming to the ramp the husband ends up abusing the wife for not holding the boat just perfect
Paul H
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You take lending a hand to
You take lending a hand to new levels peter you just need longer arms and you may have had a chance of staying dry!!
Good on ya!!
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petermac
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haha yep
need the go go gadget arms , but if I cant get out for a fish I head to the ramp for a sticky beak and like helping out better than spending the arvo at home watching day time television so boring being retired at 53
brucedog1
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Date Joined: 04/07/12
Never really had a bad
Never really had a bad experience at the ramp so far. Mostly fish out off point perion. Have an 18 foot swiftcraft and mostly go solo which presents its challanges at times, but I have worked out a system that works for me, as time has gone by! However I must say that 9 out of 10 times I have been offered a hand wither its some bloke coming down to hold the ropes while I shake the old girl off the trailer to another guy actually lending a hand on the ropes while retrieving. Either way what comes around goes around guys! I have also had towed a couple of guys back to the ramp after they had issues out on the water. It really doesnt take much to be patient and help! After all thats what it takes to fish and enjoy your day! Stuff being in a bad mood doing the things we love!!!
Deleted
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i helped tow a bloke out of
i helped tow a bloke out of the water with 7m ali on board at two rocks couple weeks ago, appeared as though alternator had shit itself in his ute. after towing out i was checking the strap and he asked if it was knackered i said nah little fraid, but all good he flicked me $50 for the trouble. to easy to help even better when recognized.
RUFFAZZ
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What goes around comes
What goes around comes around.
another example of poor form, myself and the better half were around 20k out from Two Rocks when the misses said she thought a boat in the distance was waving something looks to be waving us over. We were on our lump, set up waiting for the tide just starting to catch fish. We packed up and headed off. I was a bit cautious getting closer in case we were mistaken, didn't want to enter his fishing space. Just then a 7mtr plus boat shows up circles like a shark, no offer to help just marks to spot and motors off....while we were hooking up his boat ion preparation to tow a lady on the other boat had a line in giving the impression we were on a hot bit i would say. Poor form number 2, another largish boat shows sounds the ground around us, to within 5 mtrs, says "good lump" and motors off. My tinny is just over 5mtrs and its a long haul towing a 7mtr boat back. Poor form number three, another boat which he flagged down had slowed down and then said "I will pick you up on the way back if your still here" Yes we could have just called Sea rescue although I feel their resources are better left made available for life threatening circumstances. Is it really that important to go fishing that we can't help someone in need?? Maybe some should consider getting out of bed earlier, slow down and enjoy the day.
carnarvonite
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Warning
If you are going to tow another boat in and damage happens to them during the tow , you can be liable for the costs of repairs.
Call sea rescue and ask for help and if they are busy get them to get a job number from Water Police, that way you are covered by their insurance.
roberta
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Same here Ruffazz
A couple of years ago, Bob and I were coming into the entrance to the marina heading to CPBA . Said to Bob theirs a boat near the rocks (groyne) and he is waving us over. Bob went there and the boat had hit the rocks (big hole in hull) as the motor had stalled, we hooked up and brought him in to CPBA. Radioed ahead to get the bosun to help retrieve the boat. You should have seen the hole in the wooden boat, water peed out everywhere when on the trailer. Luckily the occupants had a good pump to keep the water manageable till retrieved. His son came on our boat. But what annoyed us and the occupants of the rescued boat, everybody just fly past and ignored them. It was their maiden voyage after doing up the wooden boat that their late father had for years.
I was under the impression that if people in a boat are waving it means they are in trouble, need assistance, could be wrong.
Out fishing here in Leeman over the years, we have stayed with quite a few disabled boats till Sea Rescue has come to assist, especially when the boat is way bigger than our 18'er. Too big to tow for our 100hp.
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brucedog1
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Carnavonite whilst I agree
Carnavonite whilst I agree with what your saying about insurance, not that ive ever thought about it! I wonder how many people that are willing to help, that think of this before jumping in boots and all to help! Then also to the rescued who think of trying to scam some sort of compinsation from the rescueer ? I really wonder what the world has come too when I have to think twice about helping someone because of potentual to sue me for compo!! Or maybe we are already there and I am a bit slow off the mark!!
carnarvonite
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Solas
When at sea one must remember SOLAS, SAFETY OF LIFE AT SEA which means you have to render assistance to a boat in trouble and a court of law can convict you if you don't but it goes about protecting life not the vessel that they are sailing in. So you can offer to take the crew off a vessel that is broken down if it isn't possible or you are worried for your vessels safety to take the other in tow.
We have been reminded of this over the years at sea rescue that it is our duty to rescue persons in distress not the vessels they are on but we tow them in because it is easier and causes less conflict, vessels can be replaced, lives can't.
RUFFAZZ
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Hi Canarvonite,Thanks for
Hi Canarvonite,
Thanks for the advice, didn't really give that side a thought. Will keep it in mind, I will retract the statement I made on Poor form number 3, maybe he was better informed than I.
Cheers