Shark Bay push to reduce possession limits
Submitted by Happy Hooker on Thu, 2020-09-03 16:10
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-02/overfishing-at-shark-bay-western-australia/12611964
This will be an interesting debate ................
Silver Fox
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Why not?
Fish for the future and not the freezer.
My wife understands why I clean my rods n reels in the shower....
Faulkner Family
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They have reduced the limits
They have reduced the limits a fair bit already since I was last there. To make a trip out worth while you need to bring home a reasonable amount. Not saying kill the pig , just that if your putting $200 worth of fuel each trip you need a good feed in return.
RUSS and SANDY. A family that fishes together stays together
Mitch88
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Couldn't agree more. Already
Couldn't agree more. Already shit enough as it is with only two demersals in Perth. By the time you add up yearly cost rego,insurance,servicing,tackle,fuel etc better off selling everything and heading to kailis for your fresh fish.
Billcollector
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Got frowned upon years ago
Got frowned upon years ago because we didn't go out in perfect conditions but had a day off relaxing, flying kites with the mates kids ,kicking a footy about etc. Going to these places should never be about justifying costs by how many fillets we take home. Time for an attitude rethink Russ, the pressure these places are under for 6 months of the year is huge and it's not just Shark Bay.
barcelona125
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Exactly what I was thinking
Exactly what I was thinking Billcollector
It's a hobby which costs money, it should not be a way of saving money
Lastchance
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Couldn't agree more
Couldn't agree more Billcollector, its that kind of justification that leads to more restrictions - just look at where you can't go anymore and it's not getting any better. It also adds to the shark issue when dickheads sit on the same lump getting 1 out of 5 past the sharks because 'its my only trip of the year and it cost heaps', then get on forums whinging about the amount of sharks the next year.
Chinbald
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Shit Hot Weather Pattern
Wont see a news article saying 150 boats at Denham, blew its arse off for 2 week no fish caught. Im more interested in how many fish were taken by sharks in that two week school holiday period between Exmouth and Kalbarri, figures would be mind blowing. Thats the real issue.
joelborg92
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Can't agree more, I just
Can't agree more, I just spent 2 weeks in shark bay and 1 week in exxy and I donated 2/3 of my fish to sharks. And I moved spots each time I got sharked... pretty average
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SeperateKnob
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I fully support the research
I fully support the research as from reports I hear the area is under immense pressure. Fishing shouldn’t be about reclaiming the expense of running a boat. It’s about sustainability. I should be able to take my grandchildren up there one day to catch a couple of nice fish. Don’t want it to end up like the Perth metro area right now......
sunshine
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Sorry but Perth metro has massively improved
Since the limits and removal of professional fishermen ......and the numerous photos on here pretty much prove it. I love a feed of fish but the cost of going out, rego, licence fees etc have NEVER come into the equation. The mental relaxation and shear joy of being on the water compensates me enough
Marineboy
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Well said
well said sunshine, fishing is priceless.
My spots are so secret even the fish don't know about them !
Brock O
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Agree...cant say much for
Agree...cant say much for local Perth fishing though.
Billcollector
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SeperateKnob
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Really? Everyone I’ve spoke
Really? Everyone I’ve spoke to have said Perth metro isn’t anywhere near what it was 30 years ago
sunshine
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Thirty years ago? The 90’s
You would struggle to find a dhufish full stop, we fished the 80's and 90's and seldom saw a dhuie, a few undersized perhaps. No gummies whatsoever in the Sound. Sure there were good crab stocks and even better scallop beds but we can thank the "small" cyanide spill for their demise. we used to travel to Jurien or Leeman to guarantee a dhu or two.
now they are commonplace, gummies are common and in my view that is why the crab stocks haven't recovered as they are being predated by the gummies as juveniles. just my view and experience, what are other people's views?
SeperateKnob
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That’s strange as I was
That’s strange as I was pulling good size dhu fish and baldies and red snapper were almost a pest up from five fathom bank almost every trip out with my dad back then
sea-kem
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Absolutely Gordon, I
Absolutely Gordon, I actually just enjoy getting out and driving the boat. The fishing is the cream on top.
Love the West!
scottnofish
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they just had lock downs for 3 months
with stuff all fishing pressure ,now a bit of extra pressure that the lock downs finished ,all balances out to me
Simo_
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Looks like the cancel
Looks like the cancel culture clown show is now looking to end fishing, we need to get our own lobby group to counter these clowns.
Bring on April
Skull
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Future
Fishing fior the future is something I support, however,
The Shire of Shark Bay claims that 1000Kg of fish waste was removed daily during the school holidays,
I would ask how much of that claimed 1000Kg was actually fish waste?
How much was discarded bait?
How much was rubbish returned to shore and put into the bins, (people doing the right thing and not throwing rubbish overboard)?
How much of it was poorly filleted fish?
And the list goes on
Due to the virus we were asked to support West Australian buisness which many people obviously did
Now we have a shire that is claiming perhaps they got too much support and it is interferring with the natural resources
When the borders are fully opened, (not sure when that will be) this shire will see the numbers of visitors to the area drop and things will return to normal
To the council of Shark Bay I say, you can't have your cake and eat it too, perhaps instead of asking the State Government to intervens perhaps you could
Stop allowing tourist accomodation to be built, stop advertising your world heritage area, limit the amount of tourists into your area at any one time
Sounds to me like you want the tourist dollars without the tourists.
Skull
Billcollector
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Shire of Shark Bay want
Shire of Shark Bay want greenie tourists not skanky fishermen,,,, but it was the skanky fishermen that put the place on the map many years ago. Dolphins at Monkey Mia one example where the feeding of scraps was all good until CALM started managing the area and it is now just a cash cow for them with their bullshit charges and public gatherings in the morning,.
When fisheries were doing a review 10 years ago we pushed hard along with a number of other areas to get the possession limit reduced to 10 KG of fillets and fisheries said no way too political, so can't see that changing.
sea-kem
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Have a mate of mine who's a
Have a mate of mine who's a governmental officer and he said basically all the shires up that way, Shark Bay, Exmouth etc are crying that they can't cope with the tourist pressure. I recall during covid lockdown they were all crying about no tourists, so need to make their fucken minds up which is the better evil.
And reduced bag limits can fuck right off, it's the one time of year I get to actually practice my obsession to the full. As said bring into it the weather and all other factors we aren't actually raping any of these places, just getting hopefully a good bag to take home and feed family and friends for a few months. Takes pressure off the commercial market and IMO rod and reel fishermen will never have the imact long liners or net fishing will.
Love the West!
Livewire
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Well said skull, and I agree
Well said skull, and I agree with metro fishing being better than ever.. I'd still like to see more licence money put back into restocking the swan , the cockburn sound. FADS to attract more pelagic fish and diversify our fisheries even more.
Billcollector
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We have good stocking
We have good stocking programs in place up here in Broome thanks to the Fishing club, blokes like Dick Pasfield in Kunanurra and our Tafe aquaculture centre all working together with Recfishwest to achieve a great result. Maybe talk to Recfishwest about restocking programs and generate interest through the Perth based clubs. I think Ian Staggles has a finger in the pie down that way in regards to mulloway stocking so may be worth tracking him down.
hezzy
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while id be reluctant to
while id be reluctant to support the shires call to just reduce the bag limit without some more detailed evidence
if you look at the fisheries website for rec fishing and bag limits is still pretty mixed and confusing imo
introducing a standard 10 kg fillet possesion limit away from home or
2-3 demersal daily bag limit up and down the coast might be worth thinking about
10 blue swimmer crabs per person /boat limit of 20 across the state would make life easier etc
current rules/limits are abloody nightmare for many punters to know or find ,
yes you can use your phone at sea etc ... but there still way too complicated imo
hezzy
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Simo_
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10kg limit further north
10kg limit further north would be a joke. I took 3 fish in coral bay and it was 6kg of fillets, rankin 7kg, Red 8kg and a medium sized goldband. Another day I had 3 reds and 2 rankin that came to 6kg fillets...
Bring on April
Simo_
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Everyone should boycott Shark
Everyone should boycott Shark Bay, let the place go bankrupt...
Bring on April
ab1961
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Shark Bay
I tried to put my side forward on their facebook page and just got blocked.
I fish once per year on my annual break.
I spend over $8000 per year in Denham.
I only take my legal limit as well as wings and some frames.
The question I wanted to ask was how much fish do the locals take when they fish on a regular basis year round?
Shark bay is around 23,000sqkm and supports how many fishers?
Sydney Harbour is 55 sqkm and supports fishers from a population of over 5 million.
NSW have a daily bag limit of 10 Pink Snapper.
Am I being greedy taking 20kg of fillets per year ?????
sea-kem
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That's the thing, they're
Love the West!
little johnny
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Not at all
Also boosting there local economy
dodgy
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Shark Bay Area demersal
Shark Bay Area demersal finfish quota is 280t a year.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Happy Hooker
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Dirk Hartog 5kg limit
Long way and hard trip on your 4wd and gear plus costly to get over there for land based fishing trip over a week for 5 kg . Not being greedy , spend hours walking the cliffs and beaches trying to catch a few fish to eat there and bring some home to the family to warrant leaving them home (my missus has zero interest in the full on roughing it trip at the DEPAW shacks etc, perfect for fishing trip where you throw your clothes away when you return home!).