Small motors
Submitted by Commodore Marine on Fri, 2010-01-15 06:44
Just looking for some experiences in regards to small motors up to 50hp for a mate that is looking at a repower. We have only used large horsepower so looking for feedback for him.
Boat is tiller handle on a 15 foot dinghy, what are people using, reliability and have you recently repowered and value for money.
Not trying to start a best motor debate, but rather a useful discussion so he can start looking.
Thanks
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Andrew Welch
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damo6230
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What is his style of fishing?
Any preference on 2 or 4 stroke?
My last small motor was a 15 mercury 2 stroke for a 12 foot dingy and never had a problem. Used to pull it off the transom and lie it in the back of the tray of my Hilux as I was traveling Oz.
If I was ever back in that game I would probably go a 4 stroke myself. Something at max rating and probably a yammie. But I havent really researched that end of the motor market.
Not heard any reports on the lower end Hp direct 2 strokes like the E-tec but they get good reviews.
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Out of Geraldton
He's fishing out of Geraldton, pulling a few pots and generally fishing the close reefs.
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i had both the 30hp and 40hp
i had both the 30hp and 40hp CV model 2st yammies...both great motors, plenty of power. CV models are the basic premix motors.
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im with that
had a 40 cv never a problem with it.The other great little motor we had is the tohatsu built for long hard work.Thats why the surf rescue guys run them.Cheap to buy and repair and they start even after being flipped on dingys ours got flipped over twice by other parties still ran sweet.Then sold the tinny to guy from albany to use as a tender.It sank at the mooring due to bad weatherThey pulled the motor out and give it a quick service and a wd40 started after a few pulls and is still running today.
So tell me have you got your info from years on the water or hours on the internet?
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first of all
first of all id reccomend a 2 stroke because of weight saving, performance and under 50hp its gonna use a low amount of fuel,
now if you wanna go down the premix path almost everyone is just about sorted out and should be very reliable but i'd still probably go for the yamaha for reliability as its a well proven design, and you can get oil injected 50hp-no premixing, we have a 30hp mariner and its been reliable, fast, and quite fuel efficeint and cheap. the etec uses a realy low amount of fuel and sounds real good just expensive and a less proven engine, but heaps of people have them and love them, while others have horror stories, any brand can make a lemon
less than 50hp and i'd definetly go 2 stroke
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Fair point
Probably a fair point at this level of horsepower re the economy, and a 2 stroke will probably give a better out of hole performance in that horsepower range.
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glad i could help
glad i could help
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2 stroke
I agree with Wide Open on a 2 stroke because not only for the quick out of the hole but pulling pots and fishing in and around the reef there is a real chance of getting swamped and its a great deal easier and cheaper to get a 2 stroke up and running than a four stroker.
I used to pull pots around Two Rocks and the amount of times I nearly got caught by a wave is not funny.
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Brother inlaw has a 40 yami
Brother inlaw has a 40 yami 2 stroke on his little boat ,400 hours never misses a beat,very good on fuel,we take three out for a dive and three full sets of dive gear and she has no trouble pushing the load.a lttle noisy and a little smoke but he comes home every time .
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thats the main thing
who cares if uses a bit of fuel or smokes a bit, at least it doesnt leave you out 10 or 20 k's
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tiller
due to being a tiller its a big factor to look at, some of the new ones have throttle, trim tilt, gear selector etc on the tiller :)
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Great comments
Anything else would be great but some fantastic feedback, I'll have him look at the thread.
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4.1m
I bought Big John's 4.1m bermuda widebody with a 30hp Yammie 2 stroke on it. Its done about 700 hours, never missed a beat (touch wood) and does about 25knots with just me in it and has been a dream to own. Runs smoothly and not even smokey, wouldn't hesitate in buying one again.
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3cyl 30hp
That 3cyl 30hp is a sweet engine. Yamaha's run at a 100 to 1 oil ratio as well which is a bit of a long term saving over the other 50 to 1 two strokes. Hence there also not as smokey.
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further to my earlier post
further to my earlier post here. the cv 30 2st is only a 2 cyclinder
The Kimberley....perfect one day and more perfect the next!!!
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another vote for yamaha
mines a bit bigger (70hp) than what you are looking at, but it hasn't missed a beat and will push my 5m f/g to 30kt WOT and cruise at 18kt.
I think the fact that yamaha are so strongly represented in this market segment isn't by chance or fluke.
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So does that mean it's
So does that mean it's generally find to lay the outboard on it's side say in the back of a ute while transporting to the ramp?
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Cushion
Go to the recycle shed at the local rubbish tip/dump and get a lounge cushion to lay it down on.That way it stops it sliding around.Not sure on what side to lay it down on but we used to put the gear lever on top
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there is a right way
theres a right way and side to lay it down just check owners manaul
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you mate
in the back of a ute, should be fine, i've carried the 30p 2 stroke in the ute
i'm pretty sure that the right way thing only applies to 4 stroke-maybe to stop crankcase oil seeping out-just check owners manuel
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