Tailor fishing advice

Hello guys I've been trying tailor fishing at the north mole for a while with very little success I mainly catch snook instead. Could anyone please tell me some locations within a 1/2 hr of Perth. I'm not asking for anyones secret spots just a general location although a pm would be nice. Also rig advice pls. I am 14 and my mum is the only one in our family who has caught a legal size one at 45cm and we love tailor the only way my sister is happy after a fishing trip. Thnx and just saying this site is very useful and there are some really nice people.


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One thing I learnt many years

Mon, 2013-02-25 18:15

One thing I learnt many years ago is that there arent really any secret spots when it comes to landbased fishing around a big city like Perth. The north Mole obviously produces fish , maybe you just need a lucky night and the fish will be on !! try to copy rigs off the experts who fish this location all the time and you wont go far wrong.

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K

Mon, 2013-02-25 18:19

Thnx yeah I guess ur right. One of my friends fishes there too and yesterday morning they caught a bonito went 50cm I think I just haven't been as lucky with timing.

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 I'd be fishing Leighton or

Mon, 2013-02-25 18:25

 I'd be fishing Leighton or Port beach rather than North mole for Tailor.

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Oh k

Mon, 2013-02-25 19:19

What kind of rigs should I use for that location

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gang of 3/0 hooks

Tue, 2013-02-26 08:44

with a 2/0 red hook at the tail. Some tackle stores have premade rigs - buy one and then make your own. If sandy, use a star sinker, if rocky/reefy use a spoon sinker. If strong/rough ocean with sand, use a grapnel sinker. Then there's lures, tackle stores best friends :)

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Thnx

Tue, 2013-02-26 16:27

What does the red hook do?and is port beach sandy or reefy?

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try floreat beach drain, ive

Fri, 2013-03-01 13:15

try floreat beach drain, ive been there the past few nights & there are heaps of small ones cruising around 30-35cm & ive seen bigger 40-50cm models caught on occaison too

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here is a photo- i hope this

Fri, 2013-03-01 13:30

here is a photo- i hope this works

<a href="http://twitpic.com/c7nnj4" title="Chopper in Floreat on Twitpic"><img src="http://twitpic.com/show/thumb/c7nnj4.jpg"

 

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Thnx

Fri, 2013-03-01 16:29

Thnx mate but isn't there a car problem with these dumbarses breaking in or slashing tires. And also what rig do u use

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 Yeah mate use if there isn't

Tue, 2013-03-05 21:20

 Yeah mate use if there isn't much wind an unweighted gang with a mulie, if its windy I use a sinker at the top of the rig with the bait down the bottom.... You can cast and leave the bait to soak or slowly retrieve, also you don't need to cast a mile out.... You get them in close too I'm pretty new at tailor myself so others, may have better advice. I haven't had any car breaking issues yet but park where everyone else parks - safety in numbers, having said that I get down about 6 after work and am gone by 8pm the fish are off the bite then anyhow. 

 

I got another one tonight about 35cm, good luck if you head down and look out for me in the black rav 4 with a white mongrel dog 

 

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The Drain (Floreat Beach)

Tue, 2013-03-05 22:03

yeah the drain has been good for me as well I landed my first size tailor yesterday night at 32cm nothing big but for me it was a massive goal completed. I also landed around a 5kg ray at around 5:30 - 6 pm but I was gone at 8pm because the bite goes away. hope to see some of you down there I will be down there tomorrow, Thursday and Friday :) feel free to let me know if any of you are heading down :)

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Thnx

Wed, 2013-03-06 16:32

Ty u guys I will give it a go! The only thing is I have to do it when my dad is off cause my mum doesn't really like it when there arent too many ppl that's y she likes north mole heaps of ppl. But thnx for the advice very useful.

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 the info looks good cos I am

Wed, 2013-03-06 18:39

 the info looks good cos I am new to tailor too. so the drain sounds good! so is the thing to put the red hook on the end?

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I have no idea what you mean

Wed, 2013-03-06 21:14

I have no idea what you mean by red hook but no any colour hook should work as long as it is a gang hook.

Here is the one from the other day http://twitter.yfrog.com/z/obew8tlzj 

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Guys the gang rigs are not chemically sharpened

Thu, 2013-03-07 15:32

And sometimes can be bluntish. Putting the Red chemical sharpened 2/0 on the back of the gang 3/0 increase the chance of a hook up with tailor, because they tail (hence the name) mame their victim and then come in for an easy feed. This one is smaller to because it is in the tail section of the mulie.

Another hint that can work is a glow stick about 8inches up on the leader. When it gets darker it does appear that it increases the strike rate, and also at least I can see where I cast.

Also a cheap but very effective lure is a Smiling Jack. I have caught as many tailor on them as triple priced lures.

Good luck.

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Hey Peter

Thu, 2013-03-07 16:42

Do u mean there are lots of people don't be worried or ther aren't many ppl be worried. Also that red hook does sous good but wouldnt u have to blunt the barb to get hook through?

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Easiest way to get the Big red on is to gently

Thu, 2013-03-07 17:25

Pry open the eye (I have lost a few this way) with a fishing ring plier/crimping tool, then slide it on to the bottom 3/0, then close the eye with the crimping mechanism. Or you can gently close the barb, slide it on, but then you have to open the barb again to prevent the hook from falling off.

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K thnx

Thu, 2013-03-07 21:02

Do u have to use those pliers or will any plier do the job

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Any plier could do the job

Fri, 2013-03-08 13:41

But its a hell off a lot easier with designated split ring and crimping.

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 I dont pry open the eye of

Fri, 2013-03-08 13:49

 I dont pry open the eye of the chemically sharpened hook as they are brittle. I pry open the eye of the hook above and feed the eye of the chemicaly sharpened hook onto the shank of the normal hook. If you get what i mean. I have broken too many chemicaly sharpened hooks this way and lost fish to what i believe is a weakened hook snapping off.

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Well there you go

Fri, 2013-03-08 13:54

Been fishing for years and as mentioned above I break a few. Now I have learned a simple method that certainly would work better and easier than mine!!!.

Cheers for that cudbfishing.

And once again the value of this site comes in to play.

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 Hahaha no worries Neels. I

Fri, 2013-03-08 14:44

 Hahaha no worries Neels. I broke an entire packet one day at $10 a packet. I thought "theres gotta be a better way" so i come up with this idea.

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What?

Fri, 2013-03-08 16:37

Wait so do I do it open the eye of the hook above it if so then wouldn't it be on the 3/4 hook if u get me I know confusing but dunno how to word it

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little tip

Tue, 2013-04-30 14:50

Ok so a little tip i picked up awhile ago , to save messing around with adding hooks extra especcially for a young tacker.

when ya bait up the mulie ya will always have say an inch or so of tail (usually what gets struck first) so I tear this bit off save till ya have a few and toss them in the water this berleys the area up and keeps the school hovering around , the mulie on ya gangs once out is now seeping oil and scent of a wounded fish the tailor come chasing in , keep a glow stick about 6 inches from hooks as mentioned above and ya not likely to miss .

Also keep an eye on the moon full moon always gives me a ripper hall ,

I havent fished ocean reef wall for a while but that used to produce early morning and dusk ,

if ya keen on finding the right rig , google search and search here and try them all tillya find the one that works for you

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little tip

Tue, 2013-04-30 14:50

Ok so a little tip i picked up awhile ago , to save messing around with adding hooks extra especcially for a young tacker.

when ya bait up the mulie ya will always have say an inch or so of tail (usually what gets struck first) so I tear this bit off save till ya have a few and toss them in the water this berleys the area up and keeps the school hovering around , the mulie on ya gangs once out is now seeping oil and scent of a wounded fish the tailor come chasing in , keep a glow stick about 6 inches from hooks as mentioned above and ya not likely to miss .

Also keep an eye on the moon full moon always gives me a ripper hall ,

I havent fished ocean reef wall for a while but that used to produce early morning and dusk ,

if ya keen on finding the right rig , google search and search here and try them all tillya find the one that works for you

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+1 Floreat Drain

Thu, 2013-05-02 11:16

I'm new to fishing and tailor fishing, but i've been on the hunt the past few months. Finally had a little luck at the Drain a few weeks back. Horrible day, raining, big swell and 20kn westerly, managed a 45cm Tailor on a 55g Halco Twisty.

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 With opening the eyes of

Fri, 2013-05-03 09:25

 With opening the eyes of hook... why not just purchase open eye hooks made for the purpose of ganging them yourself? I usually buy 50 packs of open eye Gamagatzu (sp?) Gangstas in size 4/0 and 3/0 and then make gangs consisting of (top to bottom) 4/0, 4/0, 3/0. Never had an issue with a hook snapping. My only words of advice would be I like to flatten the eye in line with the back of the hook rather than have the little bend at the top (helps with keeping the hooks sliding well while baiting mullies) and also make sure you close the eye enough as if you don't it's easy to lose hooks when there's not bait on.

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Yeah I agree with mbusby,

Fri, 2013-05-03 12:32

Yeah I agree with mbusby, keep trying new rig variations until u find the one that is most comfortable to fish with and proves to be the most effective. Now that's winter is setting in, the tailor numbers will start to thin out. But I notice that the winter fish are larger on average, try the beaches just north of Cottesloe or even the rock walls of hillarys or further north at Mindarie. Evening is best time to chase them here, try using a glowstick when its dark then a set of gang hooks, I like a set of 4 small gangs. U can either baitcast or use a float, both work well on rock walls.