Hey guys, want to get something to chase bream and flatty around the swan river on, maximum price is about $5000, would love to hear some opinions ! Cheers
IMO i would go with getting yourself a nice kayak setup if thats what you are targetting. Kayaks are good for many reasons one main reason being stealth and the other you can get into places that a tinnie cant. you can also launch your kayak basically anywhere also alot easier to transport car wise. with that kind of money you could mount yourself a nice sounder on the kayak and have it decked out to make your fishing easy going
get a nice tinny mate best things eva you can take them all ova the place river and inshore from breamin to snapper and good fun light trolling around inshore reefs i love mine.
Mate I have got a hobie outback and it is awesome. There pedal powered and you can peddle miles without noticing it that much, so much more peaceful and rewarding catching a fish out of and there are heaps of blokes who go out into the Cockurn sound chasing pinkies.
I have the Hobie Revolution 13 with Sailing Rudder and Turbo Fin upgrades. Great for open water and estuaries. The ergonomics and stability of the Outback is better.
Tinnie wise if you want something specific for breaming and other estuary species a tinnie with a casting platform, shallow draft and electric motor installed for stealth work would be the most ideal but would cost more then 5k tho.I have a old and basic tinnie as well which does its job fishing and crabbing in esturies.
There's no right or wrong answer. 5k will pay for a fully decked out Hobie yak or a basic dinghy.
thanks guys, a pinky from a yak would be pretty decent, deffinately agree with Colesy haha, and Venables I've had a good look at a couple hobies they're a decent rig, I would have to go with pedal power aswell due to the freedom of your hands, both the Outback and the Revolution look pretty mean. Busted Arse what motor do you have on your tinny ?
alot more rewarding pulling in a fish on the yak :) also another thing is you dont have the ongoing payment of fuel etc. i guess there is positives and negatives for both but IMO with 5 grand you could get a fully decked out yak rather then just a basic dinghy
hmmm a hard one i mean a yak is very very good for chasing bream and flatties in the river u can get right up against the shore in snags right up into yacht clubs and with a pedal hobie make it out to inshore reefs easy but with a nice tinny u can use it for crabbing still get to alot of good bream spots and if u are going of shore bit more safe and easer haha another thing is a hobie is very good exercize and u dont even relize ur doing it but if u get a tinny u could bring a mate with you (if u want haha) i dont know very hard to chose one
Cheers guys the decision is killing me haha, good points for both tinnie and yakks :/ wouldn't mind taking a mate fishing everynow and then,, but the petrol would be the biggest downside to havin a tinnie at the moment for me.
IMO $5000..is more than enough for a decent tinny and a yak...I picked up a 4.6m tinny with a 06 25hp yammy hasn't missed a beat for the last two years does the job in good cond...cost me $2600...it was a good buy off gumtree , most probably get my money back if i want to sell again...$2000 left for a yak best of both worlds ....$5000 for a yak seems over kill for me...good luck..also $25 full tank would last me all day
Interesting chris, sounds like a good buy! 25 bucks a tank doesn't sound too bad at all, I would also probably get a new spin outfit and update my lure collection if was to get a kayak, Cheers :)
southernfish.9.forumer.com/index.phpHow's that for tinny? not mine but am planning to build one like that. Get a yak as well man- I find heaps of bream upstream in the cannin g river on my gizmo. I bought that for $400 on here
Good Pointbarlow, i'l keep that in mind. the_dude, that tinny looks sick hes got a pretty mean setup there and im planning on trying to get a few bream upstream this winter too, cheers.
ok so here it is you want to catch bream or flattys , snapper etc so ill put it plain and simple.
Get a Tinny as there is absolutly not much benifit of a yak at all
1) the "stealth" aspects of a yak absolutly no benefit at all for bream infact quite the oppisite to be honest
2) the tinny will Always give you the advantage because a) you can stand up in it and sight cast to fish, b) install a cheap electric motor for $500 and there is your "stealth aspect" c) you gear will always stay dry and so will you.
3) with a yak you are fairly limited to the area you choose to fish as you cant move places overly fast , were as any angler will know sometimes the fish just are not there so you will have to move many kilometers to find the fish be it bream ,flattys snapper.
4) you get down the ramp and it takes you 15 mins to set up your yak were as the boat just rolls of the trailer, then when you get back in you have the 15 min again to derig and then when you put the yak on the car you get salt water all over the car .
5) when you get home to wash the yak you have to lay it all out and wash it down and then wash the car due to the salt on the roof where as with a boat just hose it down.
and before someone says you can go over shallower water with a yak , the shallowest water you will fish will be 60 cm roughly and the bream boat i fish out of is 5.5m long and will kota over shallower than this all day long ...
The list goes on and i would have to say the only advantages of a yak is no rego and no servicing fees.
but for $5000 you can set your self up with ta siik bream / snapper boat that if you did decide that you enjoy fishing for bream etc you can enter comps with it and all sorts,
as an alternative though check out the finn spindrift range of boats , they are made of plastic only need a 3hp to move them about and they are awesome for the river / shallow water i have one myself fully kitted out that you are more than welcome to come check out if you like. and this only cost me $2500 to set up with motor , casting decks , electric , and box trailor to tow it.
**This is just my take on things and yes i have owned many kayaks and many boats and this is just what i have found over the 10+ years i have been fishing via watercraft***
IMO , tinny, if you buy a yak and want to go fishing with someone they have to have a yak too, where as if you got a tinny you can take your mate too, you can set your tinny up awesome these days for a fairly decent price. So my opinion would be a tinny, safer.
i was in your position 3 months back go the dinghy Once youve fished the swan and canning system a little bit you will be keen to fish othere southern systems, if you have a dinghy you can pack it up and tow it down with a mate and fish I ended up getting a Finn Spindrift like brenz said with a 4hp merc for $1000 me and a mate went halves and he had a box trailer lieing around at home Since buying it weve put in a casting deck and other bits and only spent about 120 dollars on it I usually only do short 2 hours sessions and with this size motor we go through 2$ of petrol It maxes out at about 8-10knots but we will upgrade the motor soon still easier than a kayak Also the finn spindrifts only weight 50kg so you can launch it like and that means anywhere
I never seen a spindrift til now also, looks like a sweet sorta halfway mark between the two. Although a question i have; say u were out in cock-burn sound in pleasant weather conditions, if it turned shit a bit quickly how would it handle a bit of swell/chop?
Cheers brenz, alot of good points there ! thanks for your opinion. Rails; one of my good mates just bought a kayak so i've got somebody to go with, but I had though of that, nice to have someone to talk to when they're not biting. Addict-duffman i agree with you there, have plans to go down to the blackwood at some stage and visit kalbarri quite a bit, cheers for the PM as well :)
Couldn’t agree more with brenz, Have a track through some of my old dinghy reports to get an idea of what is possible in a dinghy. Don’t get me wrong, all the fish i have caught in my dinghy are possible in a Hobie but not with the same level of security and practicality. Fuel isn’t an issue, I can get around 20Nm out of 20L which in a 3.7m is a long way. It will take ALOT of time for you to suss out fishing in a small vessel for big fish but i think you will/can suss it out much quicker in a dinghy.
I spent around 3-4k all up setting up my rig and lots of hours but i love nothing more than heading out in her and possibly love it more than heading out in our 21fter. Here’s my reno to give you a few ideas and hopefully get you inspired. http://fishwrecked.com/forum/dinghy-and-running
Cheers Brenz, Barr a few scratches she still looks like the day she was finished.
Rick, i think i said in one of the comments but its just 10mm outdoor ply but we wrapped in glass which added pleanty of weight but makes its totally water proof.
as a tinny owner, nobody.......yes nobody mentioned about being comfortable when fishing! people who own kayaks aren't smart enough to catch the fish they paddle over
Verry good point Stilly, just busted my knee, so that puts the pedal powered kayak out for a while :/ but i do appreciate fishing comfortabley, thanks. Cheers for the pics Glastronomic! would you be able to PM me the link if possible looks like it could be an interesting project ! thanks guys
metroLBfisher
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IMO i would go with getting
IMO i would go with getting yourself a nice kayak setup if thats what you are targetting. Kayaks are good for many reasons one main reason being stealth and the other you can get into places that a tinnie cant. you can also launch your kayak basically anywhere also alot easier to transport car wise. with that kind of money you could mount yourself a nice sounder on the kayak and have it decked out to make your fishing easy going
Good things come to those who bait
Torzar
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That didn't cross my mind
That didn't cross my mind once! Good idea cheers mate i appreciate it
brg
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get a nice tinny mate best
get a nice tinny mate best things eva you can take them all ova the place river and inshore from breamin to snapper and good fun light trolling around inshore reefs i love mine.
Torzar
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wouldn't mind a nice pinky
wouldn't mind a nice pinky every now and then ! thanks
metroLBfisher
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no problems wouldnt it be
no problems wouldnt it be even better if you got a snapper on the yak! can easy take the yak out for snapper aslong as the weather permitts to do so
Good things come to those who bait
Colesy
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maybe try both first?
for the river the Yak sounds the go, but id "feel" safer in a tinnie if a shark started hanging round offshore haha
Busted Arse
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Freedom 7 is your friend
Freedom 7 is your friend
Venables
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Buy a Hobie
Mate I have got a hobie outback and it is awesome. There pedal powered and you can peddle miles without noticing it that much, so much more peaceful and rewarding catching a fish out of and there are heaps of blokes who go out into the Cockurn sound chasing pinkies.
Busted Arse
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I have the Hobie Revolution
I have the Hobie Revolution 13 with Sailing Rudder and Turbo Fin upgrades. Great for open water and estuaries. The ergonomics and stability of the Outback is better.
Tinnie wise if you want something specific for breaming and other estuary species a tinnie with a casting platform, shallow draft and electric motor installed for stealth work would be the most ideal but would cost more then 5k tho.I have a old and basic tinnie as well which does its job fishing and crabbing in esturies.
There's no right or wrong answer. 5k will pay for a fully decked out Hobie yak or a basic dinghy.
brenz
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5k will get you a fully
5k will get you a fully bombed out tinny with everything including electric , livewell and sounder..... if you are smart with your coin
Torzar
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thanks guys, a pinky from a
thanks guys, a pinky from a yak would be pretty decent, deffinately agree with Colesy haha, and Venables I've had a good look at a couple hobies they're a decent rig, I would have to go with pedal power aswell due to the freedom of your hands, both the Outback and the Revolution look pretty mean. Busted Arse what motor do you have on your tinny ?
Travisd
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old school- tinny
Baron Sportsman
Just the depth that Varies
Travisd
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sharks don't eat tinnys
Baron Sportsman
Just the depth that Varies
metroLBfisher
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alot more rewarding pulling
alot more rewarding pulling in a fish on the yak :) also another thing is you dont have the ongoing payment of fuel etc. i guess there is positives and negatives for both but IMO with 5 grand you could get a fully decked out yak rather then just a basic dinghy
Good things come to those who bait
Mr x
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hmmm a hard one i mean a yak
hmmm a hard one i mean a yak is very very good for chasing bream and flatties in the river u can get right up against the shore in snags right up into yacht clubs and with a pedal hobie make it out to inshore reefs easy but with a nice tinny u can use it for crabbing still get to alot of good bream spots and if u are going of shore bit more safe and easer haha another thing is a hobie is very good exercize and u dont even relize ur doing it but if u get a tinny u could bring a mate with you (if u want haha) i dont know very hard to chose one
Torzar
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Cheers guys the decision is
Cheers guys the decision is killing me haha, good points for both tinnie and yakks :/ wouldn't mind taking a mate fishing everynow and then,, but the petrol would be the biggest downside to havin a tinnie at the moment for me.
chris raff
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Get Both
IMO $5000..is more than enough for a decent tinny and a yak...I picked up a 4.6m tinny with a 06 25hp yammy hasn't missed a beat for the last two years does the job in good cond...cost me $2600...it was a good buy off gumtree , most probably get my money back if i want to sell again...$2000 left for a yak best of both worlds ....$5000 for a yak seems over kill for me...good luck..also $25 full tank would last me all day
“Intelligence is like a four-wheel drive. It only allows you to get stuck in more remote places.”
Torzar
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Interesting chris, sounds
Interesting chris, sounds like a good buy! 25 bucks a tank doesn't sound too bad at all, I would also probably get a new spin outfit and update my lure collection if was to get a kayak, Cheers :)
barlow
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a tinny doubles as a trailer
a tinny doubles as a trailer if going away. get both
the_dude84
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Go both
southernfish.9.forumer.com/index.phpHow's that for tinny? not mine
but am planning to build one like that. Get a yak as well man- I find heaps of bream upstream in the cannin g river on my gizmo. I bought that for $400 on here
Torzar
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Good Pointbarlow, i'l keep
Good Pointbarlow, i'l keep that in mind. the_dude, that tinny looks sick hes got a pretty mean setup there and im planning on trying to get a few bream upstream this winter too, cheers.
brenz
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Tinny V Yak
ok so here it is you want to catch bream or flattys , snapper etc so ill put it plain and simple.
Get a Tinny as there is absolutly not much benifit of a yak at all
1) the "stealth" aspects of a yak absolutly no benefit at all for bream infact quite the oppisite to be honest
2) the tinny will Always give you the advantage because a) you can stand up in it and sight cast to fish, b) install a cheap electric motor for $500 and there is your "stealth aspect" c) you gear will always stay dry and so will you.
3) with a yak you are fairly limited to the area you choose to fish as you cant move places overly fast , were as any angler will know sometimes the fish just are not there so you will have to move many kilometers to find the fish be it bream ,flattys snapper.
4) you get down the ramp and it takes you 15 mins to set up your yak were as the boat just rolls of the trailer, then when you get back in you have the 15 min again to derig and then when you put the yak on the car you get salt water all over the car .
5) when you get home to wash the yak you have to lay it all out and wash it down and then wash the car due to the salt on the roof where as with a boat just hose it down.
and before someone says you can go over shallower water with a yak , the shallowest water you will fish will be 60 cm roughly and the bream boat i fish out of is 5.5m long and will kota over shallower than this all day long ...
The list goes on and i would have to say the only advantages of a yak is no rego and no servicing fees.
but for $5000 you can set your self up with ta siik bream / snapper boat that if you did decide that you enjoy fishing for bream etc you can enter comps with it and all sorts,
as an alternative though check out the finn spindrift range of boats , they are made of plastic only need a 3hp to move them about and they are awesome for the river / shallow water i have one myself fully kitted out that you are more than welcome to come check out if you like. and this only cost me $2500 to set up with motor , casting decks , electric , and box trailor to tow it.
**This is just my take on things and yes i have owned many kayaks and many boats and this is just what i have found over the 10+ years i have been fishing via watercraft***
rails8291
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Tinny
IMO , tinny, if you buy a yak and want to go fishing with someone they have to have a yak too, where as if you got a tinny you can take your mate too, you can set your tinny up awesome these days for a fairly decent price. So my opinion would be a tinny, safer.
ADDICT- dUFFMAN
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i was in your position 3
i was in your position 3 months back
go the dinghy
Once youve fished the swan and canning system a little bit you will be keen
to fish othere southern systems, if you have a dinghy you can pack it up and tow it down with a mate and fish
I ended up getting a Finn Spindrift like brenz said
with a 4hp merc for $1000 me and a mate went halves
and he had a box trailer lieing around at home
Since buying it weve put in a casting deck and other bits and only spent about 120 dollars on it
I usually only do short 2 hours sessions and with this size motor we go through 2$ of petrol
It maxes out at about 8-10knots but we will upgrade the motor soon still easier than a kayak
Also the finn spindrifts only weight 50kg
so you can launch it like and that means anywhere
Cheers mate PM'd you
winner winner chicken dinner
Busted Arse
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Never heard of a spindrift
Never heard of a spindrift nor seen one before till now. Looks like a ripper lil setup. Looks like a great compromise between the 2
Versus
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I never seen a spindrift til
I never seen a spindrift til now also, looks like a sweet sorta halfway mark between the two. Although a question i have; say u were out in cock-burn sound in pleasant weather conditions, if it turned shit a bit quickly how would it handle a bit of swell/chop?
Torzar
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Cheers brenz, alot of good
Cheers brenz, alot of good points there ! thanks for your opinion. Rails; one of my good mates just bought a kayak so i've got somebody to go with, but I had though of that, nice to have someone to talk to when they're not biting. Addict-duffman i agree with you there, have plans to go down to the blackwood at some stage and visit kalbarri quite a bit, cheers for the PM as well :)
milsey
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Couldn’t agree more with
Couldn’t agree more with brenz, Have a track through some of my old dinghy reports to get an idea of what is possible in a dinghy. Don’t get me wrong, all the fish i have caught in my dinghy are possible in a Hobie but not with the same level of security and practicality. Fuel isn’t an issue, I can get around 20Nm out of 20L which in a 3.7m is a long way. It will take ALOT of time for you to suss out fishing in a small vessel for big fish but i think you will/can suss it out much quicker in a dinghy.
I spent around 3-4k all up setting up my rig and lots of hours but i love nothing more than heading out in her and possibly love it more than heading out in our 21fter. Here’s my reno to give you a few ideas and hopefully get you inspired. http://fishwrecked.com/forum/dinghy-and-running
brenz
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milsey that is still one of
milsey that is still one of the best refits i have seen and it just goes to show what you can do on a budget
rails8291
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Milsey
Hey mate, what type of wood did you use, for the rebuild
Cheers rick
milsey
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Cheers Brenz, Barr a few
Cheers Brenz, Barr a few scratches she still looks like the day she was finished.
Rick, i think i said in one of the comments but its just 10mm outdoor ply but we wrapped in glass which added pleanty of weight but makes its totally water proof.
Torzar
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Cheers Milsy, Have to agree
Cheers Milsy, Have to agree with Brenz, looks like alot of time went it the build but you've done a bloody good Job ! Cheers for your thoughts
stilly
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wow i skimmed through that
as a tinny owner, nobody.......yes nobody mentioned about being comfortable when fishing! people who own kayaks aren't smart enough to catch the fish they paddle over
glastronomic
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on Gumtree for $800!
on Gumtree for $800!
These are great tinnies and Yamaha is a quality OB brand.
Rego of boat and trailer is no big deal
I have the 3.7mtr version and realy like it.
Torzar
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Verry good point Stilly,
Verry good point Stilly, just busted my knee, so that puts the pedal powered kayak out for a while :/ but i do appreciate fishing comfortabley, thanks. Cheers for the pics Glastronomic! would you be able to PM me the link if possible looks like it could be an interesting project ! thanks guys