turnball vs dutton
Submitted by petermac on Tue, 2018-08-21 19:32
both of these bolkes are damaged goods , if it was up to me and a member of the liberal party i would be putting forward andrew hastie , youngish bloke proven leader as an officer in the special air sevice that has served o/s , dosent take shit , bugger me i am a rusted on labour person endosing a liberal
quadfisher
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Is your yard glass full Bob?
Sorry but politics nowadays just bores me to death, I feel long since beaten up by all parties by the fiasco that has been
Canberra politics in the last 20 years .
Were do you start? , the Rudd Gillard years , the Abbott slightly awkward years ( like watching a drunk uncle dance at a wedding)
turnballs Ned Flanders type vanilla banailty , and probally lots I have forgot .
I liked the cut and thrust of the hawke and Keating years peppered with real inteligence and fun, I even vaguely remember the power and
giant social decisions and uphevals of the Whitlam and Fraser years, even If some of them wornt the best Prime Ministers , you could at least
remain engaged ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, now ,,,,,,,,,,, pppffft.
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line all pollies up and
line all pollies up and shoot the lot of them. none of them are any good , full of lies and fake promises. we need to start all over again with people that have a sence of reality and know how the average person lives and survives on basic wages , not the 6 figure numbers they get. just my opinion anyway
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I think you just described
I think you just described the Russian Revolution
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yeah but if this is what it
yeah but if this is what it takes to get oz back on track.
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sea-kem
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I don't blame the pollies,
I don't blame the pollies, it's the sysytem. Humans are programmed to be self serving and they've just made this system work for themselves with the guise of being the voice for local constituents. There are always the exceptions but most only care about themselves, that's all tiers and party's. The best bullshitter wins at the end of the day, pretty simple.
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And the French one
And the French one
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Rob H
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It is pretty bad, theres no
It is pretty bad, theres no doubt about that.
But even more so now than ever before, if you dont watch, act, vote and speak out you WILL get the governance you deserve.
And by not having your say "because they dont listen", your creating whats called a self fulfilling prophecy.
Speak up, take an interest, make your vote count
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
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spot on rob
spot on rob
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Dale
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Looks like it’s gonna be Dutton v Morrison v Bishop.
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A very sad day for Australia
I think it is a very sad day for Australia when this once great country changes it's PM every 12 - 18 months or so when the biggest danger to a PM is not from terrorists or fruit loops but from ego driven people with in his own political party.
When people who only gain 19 votes can sit in the parliament and dictate what is going to be implemented on the people of Australia and change the life style and standing of so many good people it is IMO a tragedy.
God only knows just where this country is going to be in a few short years and I truly fear for the future my grand kids and their kids are headed for.
Mulie
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I think we need to abolish
I think we need to abolish the party system and elect a parliament of individuals. I think Malcom would have been a good PM if it were not for the god bothering right wing factions in the Liberal party making his job much harder than it should be.
Mulie
petermac
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ahh yes
ahh yes the god bothers in the liberal party , anti every thing
sea-kem
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Yep that wingnut has single
Yep that wingnut has single handedly imploded the Liberal party, butthurt self serving fucktard imo. I'm even agreeing with what Robert Di Natale has to say.
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We as the voting Australians.
Why is there the option for parties to change the leader when he/she is the prime minister which was voted in by the Australian people? If the party no longer believes that this person is no longer fit/capable of leading their party or govern Australia properly than the people of Australia must be given the chance to vote in a new federal election. It shits me that these individuals constantly stab each other in the back so they all can have a shot at the "title". As said above these pollies need to focus on run this country for the benefit of all it's citizens, put Australia first.
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sea-kem
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Pretty sure we'd need to
Pretty sure we'd need to change the constitution for that Wes and that would then mean a referrendum. I do hear you though it's very frustrating and gives no sense of stabillity of government to the country.
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Wes F
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Referendum
We can have one's on shit that really does matter (like the last one). Time for these F****ers to remember they were voted in to run this country for our benefit. Just like running a not for profit business. Stop spending our tax money on things that will not be to our advantage.
Old fishermen never die they just smell that way.
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No argument from me mate.
No argument from me mate.
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Could be worse. We have the
Could be worse. We have the cry baby Anne Aly as our local MP. Lives in my suburb and was 25 mins late for our primary school ANZAC Dawn Service and the whole thing was held up to wait for her and done in daylight.
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uncle
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Wow thats a big lack of respect,
Frosty, bet that went down well with the parents.
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dodgy
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Comsidering the roasting she
Comsidering the roasting she got over Anzac Day 2017.....
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
Jackfrost80
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You nailed it Dodgy although
You nailed it Dodgy although the 2017 report was fake news you'd have thought she'd avoid any negativity this year
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meglodon
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Latest news
From what I saw of a late edition of the ABC news there could be a bit of a surprise for Dutton tomorrow if there is ballot for the PMs job.
Like is Dutton eligible to be in the parliament because of section 44 of the constitution (payments from the commonwealth) has he got the required numbers signed up on his partition and what if Turnbull calls a general election or he chucks in his position or losses it and a by election is required for his seat and is won by the opposition or a minor party and the government losses its majority.
As it is said, it's not over until the fat lady sings.
hezzy
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turnbull has played his
turnbull has played his limited hand pretty well I reckn
he has bought time this last 24 hours … pretty sure all the aprty bean counters will be looking at who is most prefered voter wise and that is Julie bishop ,,, she has joined the potential line up if the meeting gets the nod …
that has to impact on duttons numbers , when the counters look at the next election and its winnability …
cant see Dutton getting up unless one of the others does not run … the numbers will be split, and they will selfishly , look to see who will win it at the top for them .. who can defeat shorten etc
anything less is suicide …
whole fiasco is appalling being conducted as it has been ,
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It's something truly amazing
It's something truly amazing to watch Hezzy, and if he resigns a lame duck government.
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Just call an election so the
Just call an election so the voting public can get on with living. Both parties are as bad as each other and unfortunately they get to choose the candidates through their selection process(not always the best person for the purpose). Over the lot of them.
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Disgraceful
When The House of Reps was abandoned by the Libs yesterday (first time ever for this instance) they showed the electorate what they think.......We don't have to do our job because the opposition may give us a hard time.
There are more important thingsin life than yourself you imbecilic ponces, matters such as indigenous health, aged welfare, drought stricken cockies et al, but no, you chose not to do your job! You were elected to represent the constituents of the nation.......you chose to abandon the House and avoid your duties and obligations.
Pathetic and simply a disgrace.
None deserve to be re-elected nor should have been in the first place.
uncle
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AMEN
What did we do to deserve this current lot from all partys.just a joke.
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Abandonment of employment
Question / Observatrion:
As they chose to stop working and effectively went out on strike to solve their own self serving purposes perhaps they should also forfeit their pay for the period of time.
Workers acting the same way as they did would sufer the consequences of their actions.
ROUGH RED
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hezzy
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nah ...can tell you from
nah ...can tell you from first hand experience it is extremely difficult to sack a bloke for abandonment of employment
seems easy on the face of it , but there are many legal hoops you must prove before you can do that
the worker gets many , many chances to return and can offer up a multitude of reasons you legally have to consider ,blah blah blah last step is to order them to return in reasonable time to work
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Dale
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I see the man they picked in Morrison is an evangelical Christian. Really don’t need that leading the country.
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sea-kem
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Can you farking believe
Can you farking believe it!!! Another religious nutter. Fark offf
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Justin M
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A marginally better
A marginally better alternative than Petter Dutton. I mean we could've all joked that for the first time we had a genuine potato as a Prime Minister but dodged a bullet there.
Still to me is a pretty shitty choice of PM. His veiws during the marriage equality debate were a hot peice of garbage (no suprise considering his faith) and the way he defended Israel Foloua . Fuck religion.
Same guy as Treasurer also didn't want the banking royal commission, saw tax cuts given to big business and high income earners then fucked workers in the arse with penalty rates slashed, having to start paying HECS on a lower income than previously and so on.
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"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
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petermac
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yes he is
he is a member of the hillsong religous group who are a dodgy mob and have been investigated a few times by 60 minutes , 20/20 (a pommy program ) a current affair, and 4 corners
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Can't believe I'm about to
Can't believe I'm about to say this but you'd almost prefer the Greens who are off with the fairies rather than thinking they hang with JC.
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sea-kem
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Yeah boi!
Yeah boi!
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hezzy
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…,,so what type of person do
…,,so what type of person do we need leading ??
a person with no values ?? non Christian ?? budhist ?? muslim ?? atheist ?? , a transgender ?? maybe a gay male married with 2 kids ? , what about an ex rock star who has a drug history ?? but says he is clean now ?
personally I think we need more leaders to have some values … not all people who have Christian values are nutters or kiddy fiddlers,
all people are entitled to their own opinions ..mr bean nails it here I think …re intolerance … way to many intolerant people from all walks of life nowdays
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR9D3N7AfrU
he nails it here …
huge amount of the issues we have today stem back to alack of values in society , respect, discipline , honesty , justice etc .. are needed more not less
morrisson will go alright imo ,,,the guy is a moderate ……
he has hard row to hoe and there mob will probly get turfed out anyway next election unless he can turn it around big time
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D_d_001
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I'll go with any of the last
I'll go with any of the last four you listed although an exrockstar may not quite be qualified.
Jackfrost80
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Jimmy Barnes for PM!
Jimmy Barnes for PM!
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D_d_001
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Nope Jimmy's still
Nope Jimmy's still rocking...doesn't fit the "ex"
Dale
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It’s gotta be some bad joo joo.
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sea-kem
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Ha ha
Ha ha
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