Would like to hear from the DIY rod builders on the forum!

G'day all,
              I have been tossing thoughts around in my head (dangerous i know) about attempting to make my own rod one of these days.

And I think it would be great if there was a section on here from all those people who have had experience in the doing so. Giving the rest of us steps from start to finish and the do's and dont's, including setting up your own rod lathe.

Cheers
Jimbo


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Well I would hope

Tue, 2007-09-11 18:02

Well I would hope Tim might have a few things to say anyhow as I know he has toyed with making a rod or two. Im being serious as well people!

Like the idea of being able to make my own jig rods in a spin and overhead version. Rods that I can use 30-50 lb braid with and still use to bottom bash.

cheers






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I used to make my own rods

Tue, 2007-09-11 19:29

I used to make my own rods and rods for other people.  Now days Ya just cant by the bits any more to make a decent rod at a price that comes remotely close to what is out there off the rack.  And what is off the rack is pretty damn good and cheep.

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Tue, 2007-09-11 19:51

   rod building is great fun... i've made 2 1/2 rods (repaired 1 built 2 from scratch) don't have the proper tools but managed to dodgy it up... still the rods work and the last one i built came out pretty shmick and i've saved a heap of $$ and got the enjoyment out of doing it... you should do it!

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Surely

Tue, 2007-09-11 19:58

Surely someone has time to give some step by step advice!


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Cant help you out

Tue, 2007-09-11 20:08

Cant help you out personally, but if you google rod building plenty of other sites come up.  They may answer some of your questions.


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Geez

Tue, 2007-09-11 20:09

Geez Jimbo - Gettin uppity already and the posts only been up 2 hrs.

If you want I can show you how to do it. Its pretty easy to do a basic bind and you can go from there. Got thread here you can use. You dont even need rollers to start.

Also got a copy of Dale Clemens Custom Rod Thread Art you can borrow if you like once you get started.

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Since your a proud supporter

Tue, 2007-09-11 20:27

Since your a proud supporter of Baileys Bait Box get Ian to show you.
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mudhole.com

Tue, 2007-09-11 20:47

mudhole.com go there thats got a few instructionals, they can explain better than i can... and they have lots of rod building components and normally a few bits and pieces on sale... other than that google can teach you the world. thats how i learnt

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Jimbo - I've rolled over

Wed, 2007-09-12 05:34

Jimbo - I've rolled over 100 rods...everything from 2kg spin sticks up to full blown game rods...

Got to say I agree with 'the bear'. You won't save any money rolling your own, and the finished product on your first few attempts will be a bit rough. However, the personal satisfaction of using a rod you've put hours into is pretty cool.

The other thing you will need is 'patience'...and lot's of it...especially if you want to start doing a few fancy wraps. I would keep it simple - choose one main colour for under bindings and over bindings and one trim colour - black is good for the main as it hides mistakes - gold or silver for the trim and you can't go wrong. Spend extra money buying the best 2 part epoxy varnish, and a few tackle shops sell basic roller set ups...makes everything so much easier. Use a couple of heavy books as a thread tensioner if you don't wany to buy one...they will work fine......good luck

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Onya Tim

Wed, 2007-09-12 08:07

Good onya Tim, and not getting upity mate just thought there seems to be a few people that have done it themslves and would be good to get advice. Not just for myself but others who want to give it a shot. I have seen a few other sites with the info, however since I spend most of my time on here I figured you lot would be the best people to turn to
And Noha I do plan on having a chat to Ian, But I know he is a busy fella and wouldnt necessarily have the time just to show me everything. It is because I have a rod that he made that I want to have a go myself, to see if I can do something similar.


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Hi Ya, Built 2 myself.  One

Wed, 2007-09-12 13:43


Hi Ya,

Built 2 myself.  One I haven't tested yet.  the other is great to use.

Built a jig to help me out.  It isn't motorised but does the job OK.  Used the U channel steel that they build houses out of.  It is extendable to any length I want (simply by getting longer bits of U channel).  Used the same U channel to build the holders for rollers.  Used wheels from in-line skates as rollers.  One set has thee rollers two of which are adjustable - one roller is fixed, one roller moves forwards/backwards, and the third moves up and down.  Also built a plate to hold the threads.  If I remember I'll take some pics and post them up.

Cheers.

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Rod Building

Sat, 2007-09-15 05:34

Hi there Jimbo,
Dunno how its done but I've written a few words of experience on this forum about DIY rod building.
I suggest you ask the moderators how to track them down.

Tips:
1)Make a first attempt with a re-whip (or a re-whip of the original rings) of an old rod.
2)Forget all the fancy wraps and stuff, just go for a plain usable rod for your first serious rod building attempt, and work up from there.

Be assured you CAN make a better QUALITY and far better built rod for less money than you can buy one for.

There are lots of 'angles' I can help you with just PM me and I'll sort it for you, it'll be a pleasure.

 

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Make a drying rack with a

Sat, 2007-09-15 06:10

Make a drying rack with a bbq rotisserie motor from a hardware store.  I made one for a total cost of $40 and it works beautifully.  You don't need a lathe for wrapping the rod, but when it comes to getting an even finish with the epoxy, a rotating drying rack is essential. 

and as mentioned, check mudhole, it's a great site with plenty of step by step tutorials.

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Home made drying rack

Sat, 2007-09-22 00:03

Ah this is a good one.
Quite correct, to get an even lay with epoxy a rotating blank is essential.

I used a bbq motor but the batteries cost a bomb and the cheapo gearing soon wears out.

Solution - find a clapped out microwave oven and use the motor that turns the table around.
It comes with a bracket attached, has all the wires shielded and protected, is about the size of a box of matches and approx 4 times the weight and runs straight off your household power.
If you mount the motor so it will swing away from the blank when not required you can use the same rack to wrap the threads.

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Thats agood idea

Sat, 2007-09-22 09:43

Thats a good idea wish had of asked all this earlier as I threw out a old microwave!

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hi Ya, Hmmmm.  Microwave

Wed, 2007-09-26 14:06


hi Ya,

Hmmmm.  Microwave motor.  Top idea and could add that to my home made lathe.

Did the package arrive alright Jimbo?

Bit old but still provides some good reading.

Cheers.

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Yep cheers Ody

Wed, 2007-09-26 14:11

Yep cheers Ody sorry should have sent you a PM was flat out fishing so had my mind else where when it arrived. Certainly will be of help.

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Good ideas man

Sat, 2007-09-29 05:44

Glad you'll liked the microwave motor idea.

Must put my hand up and reveal it wasn't my original idea but came from my old man.
He was 87 this week and is living proof the brain does not die it just matures!
Yes, he still fishes and runs his own boat - alone.

I'll tell him about the thread when I'm back in the old country.


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Another idea

Wed, 2007-10-03 18:08


Hi Ya,

I've been giving the microwave idea a bit more thought.  In doing so thought a sewing machine motor and foot control might be the way to go.  With the foot control you can adjust the speed of the turn.

All I need now is a cheap, working sewing machine.  Might just have to check Cash Converters out.

Cheers.

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The bbq rotisserie motor I

Wed, 2007-10-03 19:17

The bbq rotisserie motor I have plugs into the wall - no batteries. 

The microwave motor idea is good, but need someone qualified to set it up (zap).
 
A sewing machine motor with foot control sounds good for wrapping but would need a fixed slow speed for drying. 

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Jezz C!!

Mon, 2007-10-15 05:51

Hi yuh scuttlebutt,
Are you saying you would require a qualified electrician to wire up a simple motor?
The live wire joins the live pin on the plug, the ground goes to the ............Oh Dear No?
Is this another 'double taper rod' ?????

Forget the sewing machine foot switch (I seem to remember its actually called a rheostat ) just use a dimmer switch from your indoor lighting set-up and you can leave it 'set' while you dry the polymer - 6rpm is about right at 70-80F.
Tho take care because all electric motors do not accept voltage alterations.

For wrapping the thread I must admit I use the wife and a battery powered hand drill.
Its a simple voice operated system and importantly it leaves both hands free (one to hold the bobbin and the other to lift a glass of the amber nectar).

For thread wrapping get yourself a ceramic bobbin holder, makes everything so much smoother and easier to lay fine thread without damage, only a few bucks and worth every cent IMO.