Fishing Discussion

General Fishing Chat

Not just whales

Apart from slaughtering whales in the name of scientific research, Japanese fishermen admit that they took 1500 tonnes of illegal southern bluefin tuna in addition to their allowed 6000 tonnes last year and expect the illegal figure to rise furthur this year (Sunday Times, 5 March, page20).

While the governemnt has promised to be more protective of our coastline against subsistence Indonesian fishermen who risk their lives in crappy (but getting better) boats to feed thier families, why do the authorities seemingly do nothing against modern boats fishing for profit?


Livey Brews!

After buying a new pump to put on a bucket as a livey one i saw that article in wangler the other week and decided that my old home brew kit is perfect!

Screwed a clip on the side of it , mounted the pump - Might put velcro on tho as its easier to to take off.

Went to city farmers and bought an extra aerator stone and a splitter. Joined it all up and voila!

Good thing is i can tell the water temp, and the tap means its easier to drain the water out at the end. The 2 aerator stones seem to keep the fish pretty healthy too.

Edit - Tryin to post a picture but server isnt workin properlly (Adam....!):P


Sustainable Fishing

What is sustainable fishing? How are we able to maintain a balance in a marine environment which is encountering increased pressure from a water orientated populace. It seems the Governments answer is to bring in Marine Parks and restricted fishing areas all the way along the Western Australian coastline. The problem seems to be that there is a great divide amongst the fishing community as to how to move foward and ensure we don't over fish our resource. Several mentalities of fishermen I have identified are:
Catch and Release (don't eat them at all)
Catch enough for a feed (release what you don't need)
Fish for the freezer (take what you can)
These are sub components of the main fishing bodies, recreationals and professionals.

When there are opponents to fishing, such as the greens and calm, it is extremely important for us as individuals to pool together to protect our rights as fishermen. I don't necessarily disagree with the idea's of marine parks, but want to know more about the process that they use to decide which area's should be closed and how they measure the success of that specific area being repopulated from being a no fishing zone. I have heard talk about a tag lottery system for category 1 demersels and am worried about how this will impact on fishing for our kids or fishing in general.

How the government deals with the increasing pressure on fish stocks will be very interesting. I do believe that areas such as the Cockburn Snapper Spawn, Rottnest Samsonfish Aggregation or areas which are known to be fish spawning grounds should be protected. These area's need to be regulated to ensure the generations of fish aren't wiped out by greedy fisherman looking to fill their freezer or by the guys that are making big $$$ out of killing fish.

So how do we go about protecting the fish? And how can we do it when there are so many vested interest groups. I want to be able to catch fish, put some back, keep a couple for dinner every now and then and ensure that my kids, and then their kids will still be able to go for a fish in the future. I don't want the next generation blaming us for wiping out so many species of fish as a result of greed or in some cases, neglecting to realise the impact we (commercials and rec's) have on the system.


FFR

There was a lot of talk when FWA created the Friday Fishing Report (FFR), well, news through the grapevine is that its no longer. No more bikini clad babes holding rods anymore, bit of a shame, can't say I bought one but the content looked ok. Other news is it looks like series 7 is also up for some change, bring on the new FWA.


Weekend Fishing? 4th and 5th March

Saturday: E/NE winds 15/20 knots easing to NE 10/15 knots by midday and tending S/SW'ly 15/20 knots mid afternoon and reaching 18/23 knots offshore in the evening

Well there seems to be some "lousy smarch weather" but im sick of it so im just gonna head out off ocean reef on saturday anyway! Stuff you weather !

Hopefully get into some action like i did about a month back (See Videos - Samsonfish Kaos)

15-20 but easing a little, not heading too far anyway. Just need to get out on the water!


Hello from your newest member

Hello all,
I've just signed up, and as my first post, I thought I'd share a bit of the collection of photos I have at home (some of you may have already seen a few of them).

As the samsonfish aggregation season is pretty much over (I'd still go out and fish for them, but probably not on a charter at this time of year), I thought I'd share my joy of experiencing the season that was (05-06).

My only regret is that I failed to break the 100lb mark.

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THERES ALWAYS NEXT YEAR!!!

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Anyway, at the start, there were many welcome non-samsonfish catches. Large 6-8kg Skipjack Trevally were fun to warm up on.

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And I'd still trade in 8 Samsonfish for 1 Amberjack (quality not quantity ;))
although they were not the easiest fish to find.

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Here's a funny little picture I took just before a barbeque of an amberjack with a herring :)

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And my 2 months away from Perth were not spent in vain, however, money to pay for tackle most certainly was.

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Anyway, this was what it was all about.

See ya out on the water!
KC Leong


baldies out back

anyone know any good grounds out the back of garden island?? never caught a baldie and would like to have a shot at one


Your Pride and Joy

Wondering what rod/reel combo is your favourite, the one that gets that extra little bit of attention over the others. Landed that extra special fish or just stood the test of time.

Mine would have to be my little ambassador 6500c4 matched with an abu morrum 6kg stick. It has landed some fish that I though were going to destroy me and has to come with wherever I go. Got a special combo that is your pride and joy?


Long Weekend Fishing

The long weekend is coming up!!

Anybody got any fishing plans?


Weather Forecast\Fishing - 25th-26th Feb

Weather Forecast:

Saturday until midnight: E/SE winds 15/20 knots easing during the morning then tending S/SW'ly 20/30 knots during the afternoon. Seas 1.5m to 2.0m. Swell to 1.5m.
Swell at Cottesloe: to 0.5m.
Winds on Melville Water: Similar but the seabreeze SW'ly at 15/20 knots delayed until mid to late afternoon.

Sunday: E/NE winds 15/20 knots tending S/SW'ly 20/25 knots in the mid afternoon. Seas 1.5 to 2.0m. Swell to 1.5m.

We were planning to go to the fads on Sunday, but it seems its going to be blown out. ;() Going to have to make some other plans to get amongst the fish. Hope you manage to get out and amongst them.


Your favourite lure

Just wondering what everyone's favourite lure is, be it for bream, trolling for big stuff, poppers etc.. The one that's caught that fish of a lifetime or one that you think will in the future..

Mine would have to be the jnr tornado lures or hockzheads - favourites would have to be the ones with the little metal heads and brightly coloured skirts.
Whats yours?


Photo of the Month

The photo of the month competition closes soon, please get your votes in to ensure the person you think with the best picture wins.

Its very close at the moment with Andy Mac just taking it out over Bruce's Cobia by one vote. I'm going to close the competition this Monday coming, winner takes out a FishoutofWater DVD, vote now!


Bait schools

Hey all well yesterday i went out with Flywest out from Mandurah

We put ALOT of time in to trying for mac's only managed to hook a few tuna which were lost right beside the boat :(. There was alot of smaller baitfish schools out wide but not many birds working them to point us in the right direction. It seems the birds must have found a better feed elsewhere. Well on the way back thru the cut on the south side was the biggest school of baitfish i have ever seen. Was truely amazing 11m deep water was just full wall to wall of little whitebait we saw sharks and dol[phines holding them in the shallows and would you believe about 5-8 kids on boogie boards were swimming in the middle of this bait school. They must have thought it was weed or something, would have thought the amount of birds diving would have said to them maybe we should get out. Will be listening closely to see if any limbs were lost yesterday down here lol

Thanx Flywest for a great day will have to do it again soon


2.5m Great White off Ocean Reef?

A mate said they caught a 2.5 meter Great White Shark off Ocean Reef? Has anyone seen the article or can shed any light on what the story is?


Weekend's Fishing - 18th-19th Feb

Friday until midnight: S/SE winds 10/15 knots tending S/SW 15/20 knots by noon and increasing to S/SW 20/30 knots during the afternoon. Seas 1.0m rising to 2.0m. Swell 1.8m, easing.
Swell at Cottesloe: 0.6m easing.
Winds on Melville Water: Similar.

Saturday: S/SE winds 15/20 knots shifting S/SW 18/23 knots by midday and increasing to S/SW 20/30 knots during the afternoon. Seas 1.5m to 2.0m. Swell 1.0m rising to 3.0m by the evening.

Sunday: E/SE winds 15/20 knots grading to 20/25 knots offshore. No seabreeze expected.

Weather isn't predicted to be too special this weekend. But reading today's forecast they have that well and truly wrong. The river and ocean were an absolute millpond this morning and they predicted 15 knots or more which still hasn't blown in. Might be worth sticking in close on Sunday on the 3 mile to try and find some of Shizz's sambo schools or give some trolling lures a bit of a workout. Just hope they have the forecast wrong again for Sunday, especially as it is going to be a really hot day. I would expect it to be a nice one, here's hoping.

Let us know if you manage to get out and amongst them.


Volunteer Sea Rescue Groups

I spent 2 weeks at Rottnest around Christmas and had the 27 meg radio on whenever I was out fishing. I heard 7 seperate calls for assistance made to Volunteer Sea Resuce from people who had broken down, run out of fuel or other similar problems. Of these seven callers, only two were members of a Sea Rescue organisation. The other 5 knew the call signs to use to ask for help but were only able to give a Dep. of Transport rego number to identify themselves as they were not members.

Membership costs $35 per year which is not much to pay for your safety. I bet the guys drifting around Gage Roads in rising swell without power would happily have paid their subscription at that time.

Come on boaties - the sea rescue groups are volunteers and underfunded by the government which is why they conduct raffles in shopping centres to raise needed funds to save other peoples lives. Pay your way.

Frank


Weather Prediction

Tuesday:

N/NE winds 8/13 knots tending NW/SW 8/13 knots near midday and increasing to S/SW 15/20 knots in the afternoon.

Seas 1.0m to 1.5m. Swell to 1.5m.
Swell at Cottesloe: 0.5m.
Winds on Melville Water: up to 5 knots lighter in the afternoon and evening.

Going for a fish in the morning. Hopefully the wind doesn't blow up too much in the tinny. Hopefully get some good photos.


Boat Smart!

Got my boatsmart license. Be interesting to see what the minister says tomorrow about the future changes! Glad i got mine done and out of the way, but its always good to be refreshed on the important safety issues involved with boating.
Today was very informative.

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Weekend Fishing - 4-5th of Feb

Forecasts:

Friday until midnight: S/SW winds 15/20 knots increasing to 18/23 knots late afternoon and evening. Seas to 1.5m. Swell to 1.0m.
Swell at Cottesloe: to 0.4m.
Winds on Melville Water: Similar, although up to 5 knots lighter late afternoon and evening.

Saturday: E/NE winds 10/15 knots becoming S/SW 10/15 knots early afternoon and reaching 15/20 knots late afternoon and evening. Seas to 1.5m. Swell to 1.5m.

Sunday: S/SE winds 15/20 knots increasing to S/SW 20/30 knots during the afternoon.

Looks like Saturday is going to be the day. It has been magic for the last 3 days with nearly no wind in the morning and it coming in around 10am. Today it came in a little earlier around 7.30, but was very weak and would have been great to be out on the water.

Need to make a few decisions about what sort of fishing to do tomorrow, some want more sambo jigging and to explore for spots, some want to head to the grounds short of and around Direction Bank as it's been quite a while since we've been bottom bouncing and caught a decent feed. So much to do, one way or another I just want to get out there fishing. If you manage to get out, let us know how you go.

Adam


COCKBURN SNAPPER A MYTH ?

I have been fishing perth all my life but never had much success. One of my fishing goals was to catch a decent pink snapper. Recently on one of my many trips to kalbarri we had a good run on snapper in the river mouth. Thinking that my problem had been solved we headed back to perth. But something just didnt feel right. After a while I realized that the fact that i cought it in kalbarri dosnt count. I need to catch one here in perth to really feel like Ive acheived something. So if anyone has any advice on where to try it would be much appreciated. Every one keeps telling me cockburn sound. But where,when how and what bait.


Weekend Fishing - Sat/Sun 28/29th Jan

Saturday: S/SE winds 20/25 knots increasing to S/SW 20/30 knots in the afternoon and reaching 25/35 knots offshore. Seas to 2.0m reaching 3.0m offshore. Swell 1.0m.

Sunday: S/SE winds 20/30 knots increasing to S/SW 20/30 knots in the afternoon and reaching 25/35 knots offshore.

With those winds I dont think Saturday is going to be any good. Pretty average on Sunday too. Maybe crabbing might have to be the go again this weekend if its going to be pretty blowy. Its been quite a while since we've been able out fishing, hopefully Sunday won't be as bad as forecasted and we might be able to get out for a few hours and catch a few from the inclose spots. :)

Tight lines
Adam


How big is this mutha......???

Old photo from a workmate back in his hey days at Christmas Island. Doggie caught from a tinny. He was fishing for reefies with 150lb handline and was catching a few when this baby decided he wanted his trout more than he does. 1hr+ later and a hand from another 2 guys from a tinny.

Guess its weight....

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New Videos

We have a heap of new videos, from Port Hedland, to Sambo Jigging down here.. I have just got a whole heap of Honsu's sambo jigging video's and will be making them up over the next week.. Some are well worth the watch, promise you!!

Here is the current list:

  1. Mahi Mahi Adventures
  2. Southern Blues
  3. Sambo City
  4. Josh Bruynz's Mahi Mahi Mania
  5. Josh Bruynz's Tuna on Ten!
  6. Chill Out
  7. Dog's Day Out
  8. Marlin Madness
  9. Deckie Dangers
  10. FishoutofWater
  11. Tasty Treats
  12. The Hotbite
  13. Time Wasters
  14. Mandurah Dhufishing
  15. August Action
  16. Mixed Bags
  17. Past Trips
  18. Old Skool
  19. Lets Go Cruising
  20. Get Jiggy With It!
  21. Sambo Stylez
  22. Hedland Magic 1
  23. Hedland Magic 2
  24. Hedland Magic 3

Results - EGFC Tantabbi Camp Out '06

Another fantastic weekend away. Great to see a heap of people stay overnight and get into the fishing the next morning.

RESULTS;

TAGGED MARLIN
Winner: Switched On (2Tags), Ben Knight 35kg Black on 37kg & Shuan Brandenburg 30kg on 15kg
Runner Up: In Deep (1Tag), Kurt Decker 110kg Striped on 60kg
3rd Place: Jig'a'Jig (1Tag), Col Anderson 18kg Black on 24kg

TAGGED SAILFISH
Winner: Awesum (1st Tag) Mike Smith 40kg on 37kg
Runner Up: Switched On (1Tag), Cameron Trowbridge 35kg on 37kg

HPS (Highest Point Scoring) SPANGLED EMPEROR
Winner: A Salt Weapon, 6kg on Handline

HPS (Highest Point Scoring) RED EMPEROR
No Winner

HEAVIEST MACKEREL or WAHOO
Winner: Jig'a'Jig, Scott Forbes 11kg Spanish Mackerel on 24kg
Runner Up: Jig'a'Jig, Col Anderson 10.5 Wahoo on 24kg
3rd Place: Awesum, Mark Damien 9.25kg Wahoo on 37kg

Great weekend had by all.........Special thanx to the EGFC Committee, Friends and Non-Fishermen & women that help out with salads, cooking and just being there.

As the years have progressed the TANTABIDDI CAMP OUT is becoming more popular for new people to learn Game Fishing, lets hope the interest continues to grow in 2006-07.

Tight Lines........


Weekends fishing - 14-15th January

Looks like Sunday is the day to go fishing.. Medium south easterlies early dying by lunchtime with a late weak seabreeze.. Thats my prediction from a mid-week standpoint..

Not sure what sort of fishing we are planning to do, the sambo's have been great fun, but it might be time to target something else... Fads are a maybe, or a bottom bounce out on direction.. So many possibilities, what to do, what to do...

Motorvation is also this weekend, prob going down saturday night, will try and get some footage for all you rev-heads out there..

Getting down to Mandurah for a crab is definately on the cards too, been some great reports of big bluies coming out of there lately.. and with this bit of rain we are having, won't be long before they start sizing up and filling out..


Echo Sounder Preference - Help

'Ads I am looking to buy a new sounder for my boat and I have used a mates furuno sounder. Very good but don't know much about them. Any ideas or thoughts would be good.'

Firstly, i don't have a Furuno sounder, but know a few people who swear by them.. We have a Navman 4600 and its excellent.. Does anyone have a furuno sounder that can help out with any info?


Escape with ET

Anyone see todays escape with ET? Pretty good Dirk Hartog Island special!!! So many pinkies and that baldy was massive.. Must say that his new presenter isn't too hard on the eye either!!


Fishing Plans

Well, off to rotto tonight, might drop in some cray pots and see what happens.. Weathers looking good for wednesday so a fads mission is called or some sambo jigging/containers action.. will be into some action somewhere..

Then off to Walpole next monday for a week of bream fishing and maybe some offshore action.. Will take the camera and hopefully get some good pics.. Tight lines..


Leader Preferences

Just wondering what your preference of leader is..?

I tried some 100 pound Jinkai on the weekend for my snelled rigs and ended up snapping 3 out of the 7 rigs i made by testing their strength.. Without exerting lots of pressure i found that they snapped half way between the swivel and the hook, has anyone else had this?

I have been told that Jinkai is only really game leader, but I'm even questioning this after witnessing the line break on several different rigs..

Has anyone got a leader that they think leaves the rest for dead? considering the price you pay as well..


Weekend Fishing - Pre Chrissie

Well, who's going for a fish this weekend??

From the reports it looks like its going to be pretty good, not sure what we have planned yet, but will definately be out there saturday and sunday looking for a pre-chrissie feed.

Let us know if your going for a fish over the weekend,
maybe even catch up afterwards for a bbq and a beer or three..