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Research for near shore species

Research for near shore species

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  • Research to examine status of critical recreational fishing stocks
  • Funding injection boosts extension of first stock assessment of critical species
  • Science to lead continued sustainable management for future
A project examining the stock status of species vital to recreational fishing has received $250,000 funding from the State Government’s Natural Resource Management (NRM) strategy.

Fisheries Minister Norman Moore said the new grant follows nearly two years of research into herring and tailor stocks in the West Coast Bioregion by the Department of Fisheries.

“These two species are critical to recreational anglers, especially in the metropolitan area,” Mr Moore said.

“The additional funding will allow similar information for whiting on the West Coast, as well as extending work to the South Coast to provide a complete picture of the status and connectivity of the near shore stocks in Western Australia’s temperate waters.”

Research so far has involved researchers from the Department of Fisheries working with key stakeholders, including Recfishwest and the WA Fishing Industry Council, to collect data and set up sampling programs for these species.

The work will include modern micro-chemical and genetic techniques being applied to determine the connectivity of West Coast and South Coast stocks of these popular species and the link between adults and juvenile fish to explore whether predictive forecasting of relative abundance is possible.

The Minister said similar partnerships with non-departmental groups and key stakeholders would also be a feature of the extension of this project to complete the assessment of whiting stocks.

“There are significant social, economic and ecosystem benefits from the State’s near shore fishery stocks and assets, so to ensure these benefits are maintained for future generations we need to know more about these species, which are regarded as the life blood of recreational fishing,” the Minister said.
 
      Fact File
  • $660,000 in NRM funding in July 2009 for research of near shore species stocks
  • A report on stage 1 of the project is being independently peer-reviewed before release
Minister's office - 9422 3000

Cubing for 'fin off Perth?

G'day

Having moved back to Perth (Yanchep) from Karratha, just wondering if anyone has done much 'cubing' for tuna off Perth? I am told it can be successful in certain times of the year.

And if anyones up for any kind of sports fishing NOR, give me a buzz, I have a 5m platey, up for anything really

Cheers

 


Deckie available Fri/Sat for a jig

Hey all, looking for a deckie spot to head out for a jig to the wrecks or to find some shallow water sambos round Rotto. I have all my own gear/jigs. As usual I'll pay my way and keep ya some company. Got my rfbl/skippers and an experienced boaty/deckie

Cheers
Sha 0416951400


NT Charter

Hey, im thinking of going to visit some friends in darwin for a week in mid november and would like to go on a fishing charter while im up there. Can anyone recommend a charter company?


Who's boat is their 'shed'???

They say, "every man needs his shed, every man needs a place to escape"....  unfortunately my shed is so full (and smells like the bait that I am currently salting), that it ain't the greatest place to escape to!  So when the kiddliewinks are settled for the night, I'll be retiring to my 'shed', which is my five metre plate ally runabout parked in the driveway, with a glass of wine to have some serious boat appreciation time and to work out what i will be spending my hard earned wages on next.  new springs (probably the priority) or a deck wash (more fun installing and using)!

Is your boat your 'shed'?


Rays

Hi all,

Got a friend of mine who does a lot of beach fishing - so not my specialty at all! Of late, he's been doing pretty well and getting a few rays as he mainly fishes late night. So I've got a few questions....

1. Are they any good to eat? I've heard that the wings are awesome

2. How do you "treat" them to eat of they are good.

anything on rays would be great.

Cheers

 

 


Good all round O/H reel??

 Hi, 

I have a Tyrnos 16 that has been great for trolling and bottom bouncing. Holds plenty of line and a fair amount of drag to turn some solid fish. Has anyone else tried anything that is similar or better in that price range? I am happy with that but my mate is looking to get one and was asking what else was around. They are pretty well priced for the $250 from Motackle.


this sat, deep??

 anyone going out deep on sat? or are the winds to strong, looking to go into 250m+


broken lox question

hi guys just wondering were i can find a slip on top fuji guide thats small enough for a 1-3kg lox approx .5 to 1mm.cheers


Skinning sharks?

Hi all.

Ive done a bit of a search on methods of skinning sharks and didnt really find to much info. While chasing snapper a few of weeks ago in the sound a mate on board caught a nice gummy about 1200 long. we bled it, cut its head, fins , tail off, gutted it straight away washed it out and straight on the ice slurry. the biggest problem we had was removing the skin when we got home.  So my question is, what is the easiest method to remove sharks skin?

It tasted beautiful so we've decided to target a few more little sharks while the ban is on.

All suggestions greatly appreciated.


how deep can u sound the bottom on a hds10 or furuno585

i have a hds10 and was wondering how deep ppl have sounded with it using a tm 600 or 1kw tranny...i wanna hit 350m for example...

please only ppl who know from experience with a hds10 reply, i dont care what the other brands or models do lol thanks


KING GEORGE WHITING "who catches the biggest" 20th november 2011 woodmans pt free for all

may i state that this isnt a registered competition, its an invite to enjoy a friendly day on the water to see whos the kg king :)

starts 6am sunday morning 20th nov, no registering required, just honesty please.

you may launch anywhere or beachfish anywhere but the weigh in is at woodmans pt boat shed at 3pm sunday 20th nov.

3pm is the deadline so make sure u collect a token from me ,brad at the blue boat shed at woodmans pt between 230pm and 3pm

only token holders fish will qualify , would appreciate honesty

longest king george wins, a tie will be weighed to see who wins

no using explosive devices to catch the fish lol :)

no prizes but i look forward to making this a big event next yr properly organised as a competition etc

lets keep perth on the map for having the biggest kgs in aus!!!!!!!

u know u want bragn rights :) hope to see a few interested cheers.brad

 


Are Sharks seasonal?

I've decided to focus on my Land based Shark fishing, What i'm wondering is does anyone know, or know where I might find information about the seasonal movement of sharks?

I know that the snapper spawning attracks its share of GWS, but is there a seasonal pattern for say Bronzys or Spinners etc that they might be on the bite more than others?

 

Thanks in Advance


Best Reds advice??

 Hi,

I just got my new boat and will be heading out in the hunt for red emperor. What have been your most successful rigs/baits? I have used the old paternosta rig and have landed a few but nothing sensational. Any particular ground to look for on the sounder. I have heard that not right on the reefs but a little off is the best way to locate them. Any ideas? Cheers.



Prawning

 G'day guys recently I got a drag net from a family friend and was wondering if there was anywhere to try for some prawns I was thinking about heading down to the swan with my mate and a few beers just for the hell of it just curious to know if anyone has been having any luck 

Cheers

Mark

 


dive gear for sale

hey guys n gals, I have dive gear for sale,

2 x bc,s cressi sub

1 set or regs with computer, (alladin) and Air 2 set up, both bc,s have integrated weights ,

1 steel tank and a shark shield,

top quality gear selling the lot for $1500

will post some pics up and more detail on the weekend when i,m home,

 

cheers,


what surface temerature for spanish macks?

was just wondering if anyone knows the ideal water surface temp to increase my chances of a metro macky? cheers


busso sambos

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Green Head

Heading to Green Head for the long weekend.

We haven't been there before and were looking for some tips on whats around ,baits to use, what depths to target etc.

Have a boat.


Stella 8000 SW questions

Just a simple question or 2.

By exploring found a spot with good GTs. Not sure about sizes but what I could see following the lures was some "interesting" looking ones (chasing trout in a likely looking spot).

Now I only (yet) have a SW8000 (Not PG). Can I have a go at these with the 8000, because as far as the specs the 10 is only basically a bigger spool and same spec's. Ie only more line capacity. Only have PE 3-4 on it ATM, so will have to upgrade to PE 5-6. If I get floored, would or can you go up to PE8? Now that is borderline, and I wouldn't risk the reel in a capacity it wasnt designed for.

Have a collection of lures at my disposal, last count about 100odd (yes a lure junkie, everytime I go to the shop to get some gear off any sort I grab a new lure or 2 - mostly what I hear about from FW stories) and have some R2S dumbells and other odd and sod pops. Nothing like the $100+ jobs, and I am sure I would sacrifice a few.

Bit reluctant to upgrade to SW18000 because I would never use this for anything else, and spend $100+ on GT poppers and sticks etc. Would rather gently venture into it and see what happens.

But then not willing to kill the 8 either as I just love it.

Not a techno Junky on all the specs etc. A rod and reel has their design and function, and thats how I use them.

I have a saragosa 14000 but I am positive the SW8000 would pull it backwards in a rush.

Cheers

Neels


South West Marine Parks - changes to Federal Legislation

I haven't been following this closely, but saw it in today's media, what does it all mean to us recreactional fishermen?

 

 

 

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/breaking/10478426/fishermen-ignored-in-catch-zone-changes/

 

 


Latest custom rod

I got Paul Herron to build my wife a heavy rod for chasing Reds in the rough stuff. Once again he's done an awesome job.

The blank is a Black Hole Cape Cod special 250 g. The carbon wrapping of this blank is beautiful so there is no need to get too fancy with the build.

The colour scheme was primarily purple and the finish has worked really well. Guides are American tackle HTLRS with Holographic rings. The main colour of the ring is purple so it fits the theme well.
Reel seat is a Project X seat from mudhole with a purple gimbal to match.
This is the first ever combo I've fitted out where the reel is cheaper than the rod. I picked the Cabo 70 up for just over 100 bucks at a recent sale and it will be interesting to see how it goes. The components cost more than the reel!

I took a couple of loaded up shots with 10 kilos of weight. I doubt the missus will use any more than 8 kilos of drag so this outfit is pretty much unbreakable.

I must admit until recently I was not a huge fan of parabolic rods that bent all the way through the foregrip but for heavy outfits they are a good thing with the fulcrum/lever point being closer to the body for less hurt. The parabolic curve also transfers the load throughout the rod decreasing the breakage risk.
Blank weight was 143 grams and finished rod 394 g. Pretty good considering the heavy Gimbal and reel seat for a rod with so much power. Apparently it can deadlift to 60lbs.

Gotta love the pics of the little one helping daddy with the bend pics. Maybe the weight was more like 9.8 kilos after she had a little play


buddy boat for deepwater required

out from pt peron this summer to chase the geyband. harpuka etc.im novice to these fish but not boating/fishing and would be best for someone the same as i would prefer to find own spots not take  others. have 6.5m so roughly same size so can travel at same speed. just for safety sake and i stress im def not after other peoples spots .pm or send  message 0419923028. cheers scott


Early season snapper report (Port Phillip Bay, Victoria)

So me and my best mate Ben went out for our first bash on the snapper this season in Melbourne. Its still pretty early in the season and the fish dont usually fire up till early november when the water temp hits about 17 degrees, we had heard reports of a few fish getting around so we were pretty confident heading out.  We had decided to only use light gear this year to have abit more fun so we packed all our bream and whiting gear and hit the water around 5 30am ready for the 7am tide change.. it was going to be a good day!

 

The first fish of the 2011 season was a PB for Ben  (would of beat mine too) taken on a big pilchard on a 2000 size real and 6lb braid. Weighed in a 6.7kg, unfortunatley was gut hooked so we had to keep it. We ended up getting 5 during this tide change, weighing in from 2.8 to 6.7kg Very good start considering how early in the season it was, the water was only 14.5 degres.

Got my first fish on my new Caldia 2000 combo, great fun on 4lb braid!

Now what happened next is one of the most amazing things I have ever witnessed out fishing. Ben had a strike and somehow the fish managed to pull the rod out of the racks before either of us could get to it. Anyway, we were both shattered and our great morning had been ruined. Anyway, Ben didnt give up.. He spent the next 5 minutes casting out and retriving slowly along the bottom and sure enough he brought back some line and his rod, he got the fish too... here is the culprit! Unbelievable.

We ended up getting 9 fish ranging from 2kg to 6.7kg, kept 3 and realesed the rest. Was a cracking day out on the water and a huge result considering the time of year. Think this season is going to be the best yet and im really looking forward to battling some more reds on the lighter gear.

Ended up with a good feed as well...

 

Cheers


Gummy Sharks SOR

Hey all

Have been out recently trying to find a gummy or two without much luck. Was wondering if anyone could help with things like rigs, ground to fish, baits, best times and conditionds etc. I have a boat so I am not restricted there. Any help is much apreciated.

Cheers Matt


mono to mono knot

Had a quick search but couldn't find much on this.... maybe I'm blind??

After recommendations 4 the best knot to connect 30lb mono mainline to 50-100lb mono leader.

Is it best to have knot before or after guides? Ideally I want a long leader but I expect it won't cast through guides well??

Thanks  


uv protective clothing

hi guys

does anyone know where i can get a few l/s and s/s uv protection shirts from preferably where i can design what i want on them if not just blank shirts is fine.

also does anyone have a pic of the fishwrecked l/s shirt

cheers

Roddo


Higher than normal risk of cyclones this season

Anyone want to take a punt and guess when the first one will form off W.A?

 

 

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/higher-than-normal-risk-of-cyclones-this-season/story-e6frg1rc-1226169009776

 

"SEVERE weather experts are warning North-West communities to batten down now for an above average number of cyclones this season.

Two cyclones are expected to hit the coast, with a ‘significant risk’ of at least one severe tropical cyclone impacting WA this year, according to forecasters at the WA Bureau of Meteorology.

Coastal communities between Broome and Exmouth face the highest cyclone risk of anywhere in Australia and the season starts on November 1.

"Climate models are trending toward another La Nina episode, which would lead us to expect a slightly higher than average number of tropical cyclones, however, no two La Nina events are the same,” BOM Severe Weather Services manager Andrew Burton said.

La Nina conditions are where lower sea surface temperatures in the Pacific Ocean create a see-saw of pressure, triggering thunderstorm and cyclone activity.
 

 


"While this La Nina may be weaker than the last, this doesn't mean Western Australia can expect fewer tropical cyclones than the previous season," Mr Burton said.

Last year, where the La Nina phenomenon was much stronger, WA experienced an average season with five tropical cyclones off the northwest coast.

The strong La Nina conditions caused an above average number of tropical lows which didn't intensify into tropical cyclones.

"For most people a bad season is one when their community is directly affected. Last season's severe flooding in the Gascoyne was not directly associated with a tropical cyclone, but is an example of how tropical lows can also cause significant flooding," said Mr Burton."


Massive metro tailor !!!!

Sorry guys , now that i have your attention ;)

 

Who is keen on a meet up thursday the 27th october penguin island? Public holiday friday. Wont be many people over the island.

Last time i went i landed a beauty and lost a couple more.  Thought i would post it now to get bosses time to let ya have it off. Friday is a public holiday so it will be a extra long weekend.

Meet up 9 oc ferry to the island $12 return. get the 1oc ferry back. Fish all around the island but mainly the ocean side for big tailor.

Let me know is you are keen.

This is my catch from last time a few weeks back...

 

 

 

Me hooked up! by Marc Russo (Australia), on Flickr I took today off work and went to Penguin island. Landed this really nice tailor by Marc Russo (Australia), on Flickr Very sharp teeth by Marc Russo (Australia), on Flickr I took today off work and went to Penguin island. Landed this really nice tailor by Marc Russo (Australia), on Flickr