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Live baiting Pilbarra style

Something new to try. Will go and get some from the pylons. Question is for demersals like trout etc do you add a sinker to sort off trap it, let it swim free with a nice solid and heavy live bait hook that will fatigue it anyway etc.

Also best to hook through the front of the pectoral or behind. I would have thought behind knowing fish up here tend to eat fish head first, ie not like Tailor.

Any help will be usefull.

Cheers

Neels


Swan River polluted?

Grave fears for iconic Swan River dolphin pod after six deaths
JANE HAMMOND and ANGELA POWNALL, The West Australian November 14, 2009, 10:50 am

WA News / John Mokrzycki ©

The health of the Swan River has come under serious question after researchers revealed that dolphins that died in the waterway were found to have high levels of the banned chemical dieldrin.

A report into the deaths says the levels of dieldrin are among the highest found in marine mammals anywhere in the world.

Photos of the dead mammals show shocking skins lesions, growths and discolouration.

Of the six dolphins found dead since June, two were in such a state of decomposition that they could not be tested for contaminants.

Three of the dead dolphins were found to have high levels of contaminants including dieldrin, polychlorinated biphenyls, DDE and Zinc. A report by Murdoch University researchers on the deaths released today noted that little was known about the cumulative impact of mixtures of contaminants on the health of marine mammals.

Three of the mammals died in June and another three in September-October.

Lee Bell from the National Toxics Network said the contamination indicated that the dolphins were picking up chemicals that persisted in the environment.

He said up to 20 former landfill sites along the Swan River could be leaching poisons into the waterway and the spike in contaminants likely to result from dredging in the Fremantle Port in January could spell the end to the river’s dolphin population.

“When you get marine mammals already suffering from high levels of contaminants and you add more to the mix it can be the straw that breaks the camel’s back,” Mr Bell said.

He said both humans and dolphins could take up dieldrin though the skin as well as through eating contaminated fish.

Leading marine biologist Jean Paul Orsini backed Mr Bell's calls saying the threat to the dolphins from Fremantle Port's planned dredging program was too great, especially given the already vacarious state of the pod's health.

Shadow Environment Minister Sally Talbot warned swimmers, water sports lovers and people who eat fish and seafood out of the Swan River that their health could be affected.

She called on the Government to hold an urgent inquiry into the deaths of a nearly quarter of the iconic Swan River dolphins in the past five months and the presence of dieldrin in the water.

“This is very distressing news. It’s not just about the six dead dolphins in five months. It’s about the fact that half of them appear to have been killed by dieldrin. Dieldrin is one most poisonous chemicals we have known in this country and that’s why it was banned more than 20 years ago,” Ms Talbot said.

“We have no way of knowing it is a risk to humans. If there is indeed dieldrin in the Swan River, then that’s a very, very serious thing. The impact is not just upon people who like to fish and eat what they catch, but water-skiers, swimmers and anybody using our waterways.”

Ms Talbot added that she wouldn’t swim in the river herself, but it was up to people to decide that for themselves.

Environment Minister Donna Faragher said the Swan River was safe to swim in and there was no health risk from eating river fish.

“The Government has been advised by fisheries and health agencies that there is no direct risk to the public by swimming in, or by consuming any fish caught in the Swan and Canning rivers," Ms Faragher said.

"The deaths share many of the same features observed in dolphins studied elsewhere in the world."

Murdoch University researchers in collaboration with the Swan River Trust, Department of Environment and Conservation and Curtin University have investigating the dolphin deaths.

An urgent meeting of researchers and government agencies this week discussed the findings of post-mortem examinations of the dolphins.

Murdoch University wildlife biologist Dr Hugh Finn said the dead dolphins were likely to have been regular users of the Swan and Canning rivers and part of a resident community of about 20-25 dolphins.

"The deaths of the Swan River dolphins share many of the same features observed in significant mortalities of dolphins studied elsewhere in the world, including evidence of suppressed immune systems and bacterial, fungal and virus infection," he said on the ABC’s Stateline program last night.

"Entanglement in discarded fishing line is also a contributing factor, with one dolphin dying as a result of an infection arising from entanglement around its tail flukes and a second dolphin suffering from entanglement around a pectoral fin and a fish hook lodged in its oesophagus."

Two of the dead dolphins were females of a reproductive age, and two had severe skin lesions.

Murdoch veterinary pathologist Dr Nahiid Stephens told ABC TV that the post-mortem examinations indicate that immunosuppression was evident in at least four of the dolphin deaths.

"This may be attributable to a range of factors, including viral infection, rapid seasonal changes in water quality, and long-term exposure to contaminants," Dr Stephens said.

"In comparison to contaminant levels reported in dolphins internationally, concentrations of dieldrin were high in tissues from three dead dolphins that were analysed for the presence of variety of contaminants," she said.

A spokeswoman for Murdoch University said researchers were working on a range of further tests to investigate the post-mortem findings and would be looking at whether an as yet unidentified marine mammal pathogen may be present, such as Cetacean Morbillivirus, a virus known to cause immunosuppression.


busy one

Its going to be one busy day at at ramps tomorrow, with the first pull of the pots for the season,

Good luck to all you cray fishermen hope you get a few.

 


tinny 4 sale

Savage 12ft tinny with a 25hp Yamaha on a breakback custom offroad trailer (accomodates a 16fter) with desert duellers and extras:

low hours, good condition

asking $3400 PM me or mobile 0417 927 802

fastest tinny in town...Jurien


fishing laws

hey guys im looking at going out for a squid do i need a Licence to do this
and if so how do i go about getting one and is there a Licence if i wanna go and get dhus and stuff when the ban is off


Herring?

Hi All, I'm curious to know If the Herring run has started in the Bunbury Busselton area's anyone been catch'n them of late?

Cheers Kev


Is the wind going to drop off this arvo?

Looking at Bom and seabreeze there forcasts are different. Seabreeze is saying the wind is going to drop off over the day..what do you guys think??


best bream lure and best tailor lure

with this sight being the fountain of all knowledge

what do you guys think is the best bream lure and the best tailor lure and why?  


Salmon Lures

Hey eveyone, i would like to try to get some salmon next season and wanted to know the best lure (that works) to troll and spin.


crayfish in broome?

Hey guys,

 

Was wondering if you are allowed to put pots out for crayfish around broome. I havent seen any pots around thats all. I know a few people get a fair few diving around the place. Any info greatly appreciated

 

Mark..


Good lures/baits in the wellington dam

what lures are working at the monment for eg: soft plastics hard bodies spinner and what patterns plzzz just wondering coz im going up this weekend with the family and hope to get some good reddies in the bag!!!


average size of V5 fish getting smaller

Vulnerable fish getting smaller
SARAH QUINTON, The West Australian

Vulnerable fish getting smaller

WAN / UWA ©

The average size of fish off the West Australian coast is getting smaller as recreational and commercial fishers continually take big breeding fish, according to new research.

Research by the University of WA using underwater cameras to record fish species has found that many of the State's most valued species are rare and smaller than recorded historically.

The cameras have recorded 6500 hours of data over the past five years, measuring the number of fish swimming past the camera and their size.

For species such as dhufish, breaksea cod and western blue groper the average size seen was approximately half the maximum size attainable.

Western blue groper, which can grow to 160cm, did not exceed 120cm. Only 1.8 per cent of the 111 dhufish seen exceeded 92cm, below the maximum size of 1.2m.

The Centre of Marine Futures director, Professor Jessica Meeuwig, said size was a critical issue in protecting fish stocks and big females were the engine room for stock recovery.

"This means the size of fish in WA waters are actually quite small and the amount and quality of eggs a female fish will produce is directly relative to her size," she said.

"It is the big old fat females we need to protect. The only way to protect them is in no-take spatial closures coupled with restrictions on bag limits and size limits."

Professor Meeuwig said stocks of the "vulnerable five", identified by the Department of Fisheries as dhufish, pink snapper, red snapper, baldchin groper and breaksea cod, had been over-fished.

"Fish such as dhufish, which used to be called 'schoolies' because they were found schooling in areas like Geographe Bay, are now so rare we see them typically once every 17 hours," she said.

Recfishwest chairman Craig Leatt-Hayter said "no fish areas" was not a solution because some species were not territorial and they moved around.

"A combination of factors including maximum-size catches needs to be considered for all fish," he said.

The Department of Fisheries implemented seasonal restrictions for recreational demersal scale fishing in the West Coast Bioregion by imposing a two-month ban on some of WA's severely low stocked fish.


Death of a rig

first pictures west altas burnt oil rig

Those in the know (??) are saying 7 years to clean up the oil spill off our Kimberley Coast.

 


anything on the bite in kalbarri?

hey heading to kalbarri on saturday. anything biting? unfortunaly cant take the boat up but what is the best bet? heard chinamans is the place to be chasing mulla's? and chance of mudcrabs around ? cheers


calling all mandurah boaters

there will be a meeting with fisheries and local members at the pinjarra RSL on tues dec 1 ( time will be posted at later date probably start at 6.30 or 7.00) meeting is to talk about new regs and provide feedback to DOF and local politcians .If you feel like i that the new boat\bag limits are wrong and discriminate against boaters or you have input to offer as to what is going on with boat fishing ect in the area please come along and have your say.

the purpose of this meeting is to get the feel of what you think and put that to those that make the rules please bring an open mind and have your say and listen to what others have to say.


Weed theories

I have never seen the seaweed situation as bad as it has been for the past month or so in all my time in Perth.
Not only is it thick, it is everywhere. A lot of it also seems to be just floating along in big clumps, not like most of the seaweed you normally see after a storm.
I am wondering if it may be associated with the dredging and new work they are doing at North Mole.
Does anyone else have an idea of why this has been so bad, for so long.
Thanks, Colin


Deep water sounders

I have a Furuno FCV 585 sounder with a 1kw in hull transducer. It's a great sounder and better than the JRC FF30 I had previously. It reads fine at 35 knots and really has pretty good definition. I have used it to around 200m and the deeper I go the slower I have to travel to keep the image.............I tend to lose some definition as the water deepens. Dont get me wrong I have been fishing outa boats for 20 years and this is the best I have seen (non commercial).


I intend to go out wide in water 300 - 600m deep.................I dont know if the FCV 585 will do the job, has anyone tried it?



I have been looking at the new Lowrance broadband sounders.........they use the exact same trannie as I have (Airmar IHD-525). I tried one in Darwin recently and it was ok.............about the same definition as my Furuno, but I only used it in 80m water.



I'm thinking that I may need a commercial unit with 3kw.............. any feed back?



 



Mick


squid

jus wondering if there been any squid being caught round hillaries marina and it should almost time for the blues to start showing up any reports aswel does eny one no off good catches off hering whiting talior off the wall like to go an give it a go cheers

 


surf rod needed

hey guys need a surf rod before friday needs to be able to cast 6+ounces have been looking at the 13 foot sensor surf and moonraker if you know of ne one or sight sponsers have nething suitible in stock please send pm or reply


saragosa 8000f

hey guys just little help
i was just spooling up my reel with some braid and the handle made some kind of a crunch sound and now the reel wont wind line on.
just wondering if anyone knows how hard it is to take apart and put back together i have the warranty paper here but i cant find the receipt to have a proof of purchase any one have any idea on what i should od


Who needs to pay a squillion to watch whales...look how close to shore these ones are.

A bit of metro glass for all you Northerners that keep rubbing our noses in it.


down south fly help

hey guys, over crissy I'll be heading down to perth and over to port piri in SA, i'm only tacking a fly rod so was wondering if anyone can tell me some flies i will need, to have a go at a few flatties in perth, or maybe even a bream. And can anyone point me in the direction of a few spots around the port piri area as i have never been there before. also if there is any fly anglers that want to join me for an early morning walk in the swan close to the end of the year, that would be fun. Cheers guys


cray pot

hey guys trying to get my hand on a cray pot

when i do do this how do i no where to drop her ?

jsut wont to get my hands on a few  crays

cheers dane


Looks like Tailor Time this afternoon

http://www.clode.com/cam.html

9 knott south wester. Should be perfect.


where?

hey guys hoping to go out this sunday to get some talior land based of the nor metro beach ?

sunday morning where would be my best bet ?

cheers


Whales

Where is a good place to head out and see if whales are around ? I think the 40m line normally but any better/more frequent chance of seeing them ? shame we dont call locations in to  sea rescue on whales :)


does anyone want to go for a squid today??

hi all just wondering if anyone wants to go for a squid today i have everything boat fuel jigs rods the only thing i dont have is a car as the missus needs it today!i am in the kelmscott area.so if there is anyone out there that can take me and the boat down to cockburn i am happy to pay for fuel and take ya squidding! ta adam


white man

where the white man went wrong...



Indian Chief "Two Eagles" was asked by a white U.S. Government official, "You have observed the white man for 90 years. You've seen his wars and his technological advances. You've seen his progress, and the damage he's done."



The Chief nodded in agreement.



The official continued, "Considering all these events, in your opinion, where did the white man go wrong?"



The Chief stared at the government official for over a minute and then calmly replied:



"When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex."



Then the chief leaned back and smiled "Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that."Tongue out


Uhf channels

Hey just a quick question, wondering if the site has a pacific uhf channel for the road . Im currently on channel 27 and have it on when ever i am in the car. What channel do you keep it on, or do you only use it when going away.


Looking at a fishing trip next year need your help!

Looking to get away for a week or two Between perth and exmouth, Now keep in mind i dont have a 4x4 or a boat heres some of the things id like some advice on :)

Location, good charters, accomodation, gear needed, terminal tackle, favourite lures, SP's and anything you can think of that ive missed. Oh and best time of year
thanks on advance for any help!