Cyclone Vince

Wheres this one going to hit? predictions?

 

Looks like it could be north of Port headland, unless it changes path. Now expected to be a cat 3 cyclone by 8am Friday but still  hundreds of kms from shore.

 

Heopfully it doesnt swing to the south, and line up Canarvan.


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according to the rio website

Wed, 2011-01-12 12:06

its going to do a big turn to the south on friday arvo and run along the coast not impacting much at all! but i dont trust them that much they never seem to do what the bureau thinks they are going to!

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Cat 4-5

Wed, 2011-01-12 12:11

Good chance it will be a cat 4-5 because its so far offshore and the water temps are so high.  Who's going to get it is the million dollar question.

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Looks like it may hit k-town

Wed, 2011-01-12 12:21

Looks like it may hit k-town- Port Hedland at cat 4-5 ?

 

 

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it will turn away

Wed, 2011-01-12 12:55

They reckon it will turn away later on...fingers crossed!

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as above it's predicted to

Wed, 2011-01-12 13:04

as above it's predicted to turn away for the weekend so i can go fishing :)

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Blood better turn!

Wed, 2011-01-12 13:12

Going to the Monties on Sunday.....

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it'll be a slow trip mate,

Wed, 2011-01-12 15:32

it'll be a slow trip mate, good luck to you if you get out there, feel free to drop a red off on the way home :)

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Monties

Wed, 2011-01-12 15:37

Get Tuesday off and come with us............

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Looks like it could be a bit

Wed, 2011-01-12 15:46

Looks like it could be a bit hairy out there!

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mate i would if i wasn't on

Wed, 2011-01-12 19:23

mate i would if i wasn't on call, spewing!!

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Cyclone

Thu, 2011-01-13 11:31

You get reception at the Monties.......

Who cares anyway, Brucesta, the only people to call you out would be Ops.......

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don't bloody tempt me, i'd be

Thu, 2011-01-13 12:34

don't bloody tempt me, i'd be pushing my luck with the boss getting the new boat. are you still going with Vince off the coast, it'll be a fun drive with the swell.

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my bet is a cat5 storm

Wed, 2011-01-12 13:25

my bet is a cat5 storm weakening juts before landfall, and coming in just southwest of Karratha into cyclone alley!

 

This ones a monster as it's going against the normal track of east to west and following the hot water thats fueling it.

I suspect it will turn hard south around late tomorrow evening / friday morning and head for the coast....

sorry boys, but you in for another drenching!

 

http://wxmaps.org/pix/aus.pw.html

 

the potential energy and water dictates where the cyclone will go.

 

http://wxmaps.org/pix/aus.vort.html

 

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i hate to say it, but Tony

Wed, 2011-01-12 13:47

i hate to say it, but Tony may be right.

 

looking like it could be a large powerful storm, and its current predicted path doesnt look too good.

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I don't trust the BOM weather

Wed, 2011-01-12 13:59

I don't trust the BOM weather maps which seem very iiifshhh in predections.

 

but if you look at those watr temps and energy charts, plus predicted low cells on the international one, you get the picture it may just turn right and get nasty on us.

Bodie, I wish I was wrong too!!!

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Steeppoint sunday

Wed, 2011-01-12 14:05

What do you think tony

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I think you could kite fish

Wed, 2011-01-12 14:14

I think you could kite fish to 5miles out off Steep by Sunday....lol.

 

Would be nasty if it did hit the Shark Bay area, that area is not well set up and protected.

 

cheers

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Hi Sherbs. I sat out a

Wed, 2011-01-12 14:15

Hi Sherbs. I sat out a cyclone yrs back camped at false entrance. Was a nasty night but we still caught bulk fish. Fishing shouldnt be effected there but it may get hairy

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Cheers guys

Wed, 2011-01-12 14:28

Hate to miss the trip,  NO i wont miss the trip .

  Loaded up and still going ,  If we got to stop somewere else who cares

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Hate to say itt but would be

Wed, 2011-01-12 14:16

Hate to say itt but would be good to get a good rain lil north of Port Headland.. To get them muddies moving south..

 

 

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hmmm

Wed, 2011-01-12 16:24

vince sounds a lot like vance.......

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Pretty much

Wed, 2011-01-12 17:16

what i was thinking, for everyone sake up there i hope not

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Good onya Scotto , , , not

Wed, 2011-01-12 17:10

Good onya Scotto , , , not sposed to say things like that

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You Exmouthtarian's look to

Wed, 2011-01-12 19:31

You Exmouthtarian's look to be quite safe Marble.

Spoke to Steve Riley today and he seems pretty confident Exxy will be fine.

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vince

Wed, 2011-01-12 20:13

im hoping so there Sam,misses us all together,we are demaning all the riggs today so they think it is coming down this way

 

 

 

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Any up date

Thu, 2011-01-13 07:51

On this cyclone lads And what you think now

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most of the big girls have

Thu, 2011-01-13 08:11

most of the big girls have come from out that that way, normaly a little further north tho. will be interesting to see. my guess is onslow ftw

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here's Woodside's prediction

Thu, 2011-01-13 08:14

here's Woodside's prediction

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Is that u-turn based on water

Thu, 2011-01-13 08:48

Is that u-turn based on water temps Bruce ?

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yeah that u-turn is

Thu, 2011-01-13 08:53

yeah that u-turn is interesting, if it actually does do it. it intensifiys to a cat 3 then abck to a 2 after the u-turn....hmmm

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If it is following warm

Thu, 2011-01-13 08:59

If it is following warm water, then that is it's fuel.

How does it get weaker out to sea, i was under the impression they weaken after landfall.

Whatever happens it's gonna be very closely watched,

with all the other shit going down around the country, it wouldn't surprise me if this one packs a real wallop

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they said the trough will

Thu, 2011-01-13 09:35

they said the trough has weakened and is allowing the easterly movement but once it reforms she'll go back to a more traditional cyclone path with the SW track. predicting light winds in K-Town this weekend but 1m swell, still might get out and find some fish

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Nice in put

Thu, 2011-01-13 09:26

keep it comeing, Hoping steeppoint will still be ok

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wind shear is whats going to

Thu, 2011-01-13 09:29

wind shear is whats going to weaken it, gets the upper and middle level shear and it kills off the rotation apparently.....

i'm no meteorologist but this stuff interests me.

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You'll be right sherbs, might

Thu, 2011-01-13 10:05

You'll be right sherbs, might cop a wet arse on the way home though

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Cheers boys

Thu, 2011-01-13 10:36

Going on the 17th to 22 nd

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Bad news boy

Thu, 2011-01-13 11:14

Tony, do you have to be the bearer of bad news!!! I hope you're wrong!

I actually think the Bom has been very accurate this year too.

BTW, warm water doesn't impact the steering of a cyclone, other pressure systems around it do....unless they are one of those freak ones that have a mind of their own.

But I'm sure all of us up here are hoping this thing does the u-turn they say it will!!!!

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LOL Dicko, yep hope I am

Thu, 2011-01-13 19:50

LOL Dicko, yep hope I am wrong too!

 

I did geography  climatology and town planning as extra credits at Uni, and it has helped me only now later in life

Tropical lows will follow the warm water if they have strong enough gradient and no other lows forcing it away. But we sitting with a string of upper atmosphere low cells pulling in mega amounts of warm wet air from Christmass Island all the way to otherside Fiji at the moment. So we can expect a few more in the next month ( me thinks.. )

My guess is this bugger is going to sit still going in an anticlockwise circle around 700 km off the Exmouth coast then duck down south west and into the Idian Ocean if we lucky now.

Worst case is the hot water cell north west of Exmouth averaging 30~31 deg surface water temps starts to spike south again, then Vince will sniff it out and grow into a monster that could come down to Shark Bay...

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another expected to form off

Thu, 2011-01-13 11:44

another expected to form off the east coast now, off cairns.

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I use JTWC -

Thu, 2011-01-13 12:17

And they use a crow computer for their very accurate predictions -

Their latest states - which explains the abrupt turn in it's path

130300Z POSITION NEAR 15.7S 109.0E.
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 06S (VINCE), LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 380 NM
NORTHWEST OF LEARMONTH, AUSTRALIA, HAS TRACKED EAST-SOUTHEASTWARD AT
03 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS. ANIMATED MULTISPECTRAL SATELLITE
IMAGERY AND RECENT MICROWAVE IMAGERY INDICATE THAT WHILE CONVECTION
HAS CONSOLIDATED OVER THE SYSTEM CENTER, THE LOW LEVEL CIRCULATION
REMAINS ELONGATED IN THE EAST-WEST DIRECTION. THERE IS SOME
UNCERTAINTY IN THE CURRENT POSITION, WITH A 130031Z 37 GHZ SSMIS
MICROWAVE IMAGE SUGGESTING A CENTER WEST OF CURRENT AGENCY FIXES.   
THE CURRENT INTENSITY OF 40 KNOTS IS BASED ON DVORAK INTENSITY
ESTIMATES RANGING FROM 35 T0 45 KNOTS FROM APRF, PGTW, AND KNES.
UPPER LEVEL ANALYSIS INDICATES THE SYSTEM IS IN A MARGINALLY
FAVORABLE ENVIRONMENT WITH DIFFLUENT FLOW ALOFT AND MODERATE (20
KNOTS) EASTERLY VERTICAL WIND SHEAR. TC 06S IS CURRENTLY DRIFTING
EASTWARD UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF A LOW TO MID-LEVEL WESTERLY WIND
BURST EQUATORWARD OF THE CYCLONE. THE SYSTEM IS FORECAST TO
INTENSIFY SLIGHTLY AND CONTINUING TRACKING GENERALLY EASTWARD
THROUGH TAU 48. AFTER TAU 48, TC 06S WILL TURN SHARPLY WESTWARD AS
THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE BUILDS POLEWARD OF THE CYCLONE, BEHIND A
PASSING MID-LATITUDE TROUGH. NUMERICAL MODEL GUIDANCE HAS COME INTO
BETTER AGREEMENT WITH THE TIMING OF THE TURN TO THE WEST, WITH THE
EXCEPTION OF NOGAPS AND GFS, WHICH HAVE SIGNIFICANTLY PULLED BACK ON
THE INTENSITY OF THE SYSTEM. BECAUSE THE NOGAPS AND GFS ARE
WEAKENING THIS SYSTEM AND DECREASING THE STEERING LEVEL MORE THAN
EXPECTED, THIS FORECAST IS SLIGHTLY SOUTH AND SLOWER THEN MODEL
CONSENSUS TO FAVOR THE ECMWF, GFDN, WBAR, AND EGRR MODEL GROUPING.
MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 130000Z IS 16 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS
AT 131500Z AND 140300Z.//
 

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its another big

Thu, 2011-01-13 16:40

fizzer! doing a complete about face according to the rio site!! wont let me post pictures though

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Lets

Thu, 2011-01-13 17:04

hope so and fizzes to a trop. low.

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trouble is it's U turn puts

Fri, 2011-01-14 15:24

trouble is it's U turn puts it back onto the sort of track that a cyclone is supposed to follow, which could mean bad news for when it gets angry and swings to the SE again. Mind you over the decades of cyclone modelling they seem to be reasonably accurate in their predictions. Still wouldn't like to be sitting around the NWS platforms right about now.

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Looks like they think it will

Fri, 2011-01-14 14:33

Looks like they think it will do a loop-d-loop at the moment...

 

http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDW60281.shtml

 

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yip, I give up, this ones on

Fri, 2011-01-14 14:35

yip, I give up, this ones on it's own drugs and mission!!!!

 

If you look at the projections over a few days, no body really knows what this one is going fo do now...lol

 

But with luck, it will stay of off the coast and bugger around doing circles in the sea

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Looking outside

Fri, 2011-01-14 14:40
Even though its miles n miles away the weather has changed. Who knows what will happen with it, a fizzer would be nice with a name like Vince.
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Well

Fri, 2011-01-14 16:40

us fellas sure hope so!

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Down graded

Fri, 2011-01-14 18:33

Was just on the news that is been down graded to a tropical low and isn't expected to affect the coast

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Thats good news

Fri, 2011-01-14 18:36

Steeppoint here we come

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Sherbs'

Fri, 2011-01-14 18:49

ass, here I cum!! Sorry just banter

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Lol That is a worse thought than any TC Max

Sat, 2011-01-15 12:26

In the end the only cyclone you might have at Steep Point is Sherbs' snoring

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Cat

Sat, 2011-01-15 19:50

5!!

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Take some industrial strength ear plugs Max

Sat, 2011-01-15 21:40

And have a great time

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Extras

Sat, 2011-01-15 21:42

Take twice as many and use the extras as nose plugs for when he farts.

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never

Sun, 2011-01-16 07:16

a truer word spoken!