Day with the Staal

Friday looked promising and so with Lockie unable to make it, Staal and I decided to get a quick practice session in for the "date with the Dropzone" trip in support of fishwrecked.

The forecast was for 10-13knot winds most of the day but when we got out there it was much lighter and only really came in around 2-00pm.

 

First spot was to try and get a pinky for Staal. Knowing the "first fish captured by a new deckie has to be released to satisfy the fishing gods" rule , he was unphased and said he would release anything. (When you have a fellow skipper as a deckie they tend to accept that rule a lot more easily than non skippers) First drop and I was casually talking about what species we had caught on this warm up spot, a few big Queenies here as well as plenty of Pinkies. Wham, my bait gets nailed and a struggle ensues. After a reasonable fight a pretty big Queenie comes over the side.

 

 

Another drift and I get a small pinky, which was released and Staal (Rod) thankfully jags a small fish so the fish gods were appeased with a quick release. OK, with that out of the way it was time to hit the Dropzone to see if any fish were awake. Unfortunately with the sounder lit up with lots of individual fish arches they just weren't interested at all. After a few drifts we headed a little wider and spread the load over several spots.

 

With all my trips out I try and find a new spot or fish spots that I haven't fished for years. These are generally numbered spots that I have no idea what was caught on them before. One such spot was given a try and as is usual I like to name them after new Deckies that are with me at the time if they nail a good fish. Well Rod didn't let me down and expertly skull dragged this fine specimen to the suface with the Staal combo not giving an inch. Actually the truth is that this fish actually took a bit of line momentarily against the drag which was still set for the Dropzone.

 

 

We continued on to catch a few more fish and between us we had the V4 covered (Dhuie,Pinky,Baldie,BB) The reds weren't in 40m. I even picked up two nice big KG's as bycatch as well as Staal nailing a nice Pinky (sorry no pic), which was his target species of the day. The release weight got a work out on Pinkies, Dhuies and Blackarse, including a double header off good size Blackarse that Staal caught.

 

All in all we had a great day on the water, the fish weren't huge but we had a good spread and plenty for a feed. Rod was great company on the boat and I would rate him very highly on the preferred deckie rankings, being a skipper himself, he understands what needs to be done and gets on and does it. It certainly helps that he is a top bloke too.

 

As a final post script, on one spot I managed a double header of BB on the one supersnell, one good fish and a little baby. We rigged up the release weight and dealt with the baby first and got him down pretty quick only to see that the other fish had a tag sticking in him. A check with Tim on the off chance it was one of ours and you wouldn't believe it, its my second recaptured fish in 2 weeks, this time it was one of Tim's. The tag sheet had the following comments "large swim bladder / stomach in mouth", we had used the release weight in over 40m of water and this fish (which suffers barotrauma just as much as dhuies do) was recaptured 11 months later and had grown quite a bit. (edited by me, just checked Tim's records and it was caught within 200m of the original capture) If you had any doubts about the effectiveness of a quick and careful release with a release weight, let me tell you that Release weights do work!

 

I'm looking forward to the Dropzone trip with Staal and Lockie, should be great fun. I'll have my new colour sounder by then woo hoo!

Thanks for sharing a great day on the water Rod.

 

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Yep was good fun

Sun, 2008-10-12 11:10

Rod had one big, big pinky on for a while but unfortunately dropped it half way up. Other than that the fish were pretty quiet most of the day, but weather was perfect.


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Well done guys, Sounds like

Sun, 2008-10-12 11:13

Well done guys, Sounds like a top dayCool

 

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Release Weight

Sun, 2008-10-12 16:26

Good report Andy...nice to know that the release weight is effective. I use them myself but always think "well it LOOKS like it's the right thing to do but does it actually WORK"?

It also confirms my belief that blackies are territorial and don't move far away from their "patch". When I approach them while diving they come right up to my mask and hold their ground and don't hesitate to chase larger fish like dhuies and rays away either!

Anyway, good job out there to you and Staal and enjoy the feed! 

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report!

Sun, 2008-10-12 16:12

Good report Andy, some nice fish caught fella's and yeh good to hear another T&R recapture. I'm with you Andy, the release weight works and that's just more evidence. PPL just need to slow up the winding speed..... MACH 2 doesnt help undersize fishes release chances!!!

 

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Cheers guys but I'm getting a bit forgetful in my old age.

Sun, 2008-10-12 16:57

I managed to remember the bungs, but got to the ramp and had forgotten to put the ice in the esky. Quick trip to the servo and that was sorted.
Got to the first spot where we hand released a pinky and everything fine but then I caught a little dhuie around 50cm and went to get the release weight and (oops...NOT THERE!!!Embarassed) a quick length of 100lb leader tied to a big sinker and the other end to the eye of a hook with a crushed barb (courtescy of Staal) and then a clip swivel squashed over the shank of the hook with pliers and then clipped to my jigging rod and hey presto instant release weight.
That rig successfully released half a dozen fish so it worked well.Wink
So if you are out there and you haven't got a store bought one don't hesitate to make one up yourself. It took Staal and me all of a minute to get one up and running, so the fish didn't suffer unecessarily before being returned.


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Good write up Andy

Sun, 2008-10-12 20:07

some really good and handy infomation on the release weights as well thanks .

Gee you got lucky rod two trips for the price of one *LOL* j/k mate

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that's awesome news about

Sun, 2008-10-12 20:22

that's awesome news about the Release weight!  what type of tagging program are you working with?  Do they need other anglers?  I use to work with a tagging program in the US....it's very rewarding to give back to the sport.

 Let me know more about it if you have time, Andy!  Top report!

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ANSA's Westag

Sun, 2008-10-12 22:26

The tags Tim and I used were ANSA ones, through their Westag programme. John Stevens is still running it I think. Tim has all the details. I asked about more tags but it seems the govt hasn't been so generous with funding and its pretty hard to get the tags. I think Tim said he had to wait about 6 months.
Hopefully they will be able to keep the program running now that the new govt is in power.
I will be ringing them tomoprrow with the tag details, so I will check on availability and post something up for those who are interested.


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Some nice fish there andy

Sun, 2008-10-12 20:24

Some nice fish there andy

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Have also used some 2kg mono

Sun, 2008-10-12 21:26

Have also used some 2kg mono looped through the fishes lip onto  a bottom rig  , a quick hit and its off

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Thanks Andy

Sun, 2008-10-12 22:59

For the excellent day on the water and your kind words (it's great every now and then not to skipper). You know you are with a quality skipper when a deckie says he hasn't caught a snapper in a LONG time and you put him on one !!!!

The family loved the Baldie(white chin sea sweep) but have rated the Dhuie higher!! Would think the snapper would please them about the same as the Dhuie IMO.Laughing

REALLY REALLY REALLY looking forward to the Dropzone trip now!!!!!

 

 

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Just Remind Me

Sun, 2008-10-12 23:14

To get the ice..... and the release weight before we leave the house.Wink


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Well Done

Sun, 2008-10-12 23:19

Well Done guys - Sounds like you had a good day out.

For those interested the tagging is done through WESTAG. Heres a link to some information on the recfishwest site. http://www.recfishwest.org.au/TaggingProgram.htm

I was going to post the direct link to WESTAG but it has been removed from the Web. Not sure if it is because of a lack of funding or what but there have been cuts in all areas.

Will find out some more info on whats going on and post it up. 

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Thanks Tim

Sun, 2008-10-12 23:30

Will start to tag on the south side at some of my spots !!!

Andy will pack my own release weight next time just in case!! But as you said not too hard to bang one up in a minute or two !!!!! As for the ice. It's never too far away anyway !!!

 

 

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Good to hear you guys had a good trip!!!

Mon, 2008-10-13 08:19

It was a bummer i couldn't make it and looks like i missed out on a good day well next i will be there good stuff guys

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Not really Lockie!!!!

Mon, 2008-10-13 10:14

Gave me a second go!!!!!!Tongue out

Hopefully the fish are a little more on the chew when we head out !!!!Cool

 

 

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Nice work guys

Mon, 2008-10-13 08:20

It sounds like it was a good day out. Glad to hear the conditions turned out better than forecast.
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i dont think boats should be

Mon, 2008-10-13 08:29

i dont think boats should be allowed ont he water without having a release weight onboard.

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Good stuff Andy and Rod

Mon, 2008-10-13 10:47

Nice size blubber lips Andy and shame about Rod's lost pinky, but the baldie is nice compensation.

Great news on the release weight and recapture!

Buy FWA next month, and you won't forget the ice Wink

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good report again andy,

Mon, 2008-10-13 19:38

good report again andy, sounds like u boys had fun, good effort 2 catch one of the fish u & tim tagged. congrats

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Good stuff

Mon, 2008-10-13 20:20

Looks like a good prelim trip, lucky Staal :)  Hopefully the actual day out produces the big bertha. 

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A couple of very nice fish

Mon, 2008-10-13 21:11

A couple of very nice fish there. good to hear about the release weights work