Deep Drop Weights

 I am setting myself up to start deep dropping and about to make some weights.

What weight range to people use for the varying currents, winds, etc. Going to start in the 250 - 400m range.

Thanks for the advice.


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 I would go minimum 32 oz  .

Wed, 2020-09-16 11:03

 I would go minimum 32 oz  . Heard of people using 2 kg of lead 

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 i use 38mm rebar with an eye

Wed, 2020-09-16 12:50

 i use 38mm rebar with an eye welded on  - cut to different lengths for weight

depending on current/wind 2 kg can be a bit light out in the 400 s sometimes

lead becomes very expensive

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Rebar

Wed, 2020-09-16 16:04

Where do you get teh rebar from? Im looking toget some for deep dropping. 

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 lel off building sites at

Wed, 2020-09-16 16:44

 lel off building sites at night   ;p

 

got  about 6 m which has lasted me a while from scrap metal place- paid like 20c a kilo

 lead was about $2 - and painted/of roof with silicone on- i would have had to melt, cast etc 

if u wanna go the lead way i have a 2kg mould i made u can borrow

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Thanks

Wed, 2020-09-16 16:48

Not too keen on making leads, i might head down scrap metal place on the weekend.

Thanks for the advice.

 

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weight

Wed, 2020-09-16 14:01

 2-2.5 kg

If you go light any current will have you land well off where your trying to fish. 

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Agree

Wed, 2020-09-16 16:48

 Agree with shark , lead is expensive , I have a heap of old  Liebherr excavator slew bolts that wiegh 6kg each so we cut them to different lengths in the drop saw , weld on a lug and away you go

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 Normal round bar will do the

Wed, 2020-09-16 16:57

 Normal round bar will do the job, if you're metro Dicandillo will sell by the metre.

You can by eyebolts at Atom supply or any lifting company. I can weld on for you for beers ;) 

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 F+* EYE BOLTS - CUT SLICES

Wed, 2020-09-16 17:43

 F+* EYE BOLTS - CUT SLICES OUT OF PIPE - 20 FOR THE PRICE OF AN EYE BOLT

 

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 Lol Now that is tight arse

Wed, 2020-09-16 21:39

 Lol Now that is tight arse ha ha I was going the luxury way, even a 16-20mm nut would do the job eh. I've got buckets full of them. 

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 more money for bait   ;p

Thu, 2020-09-17 06:43

 more money for bait   ;p

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 2.5-3kg mill charge balls

Wed, 2020-09-16 18:06

 2.5-3kg mill charge balls with eye welded on. Anything lighter and you will struggle. Current can be hectic, 400m is a long way down 

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 I use reo bar like the

Wed, 2020-09-16 18:15

 I use reo bar like the others but wrap a bit of wire around  it and make a  eye at the top , takes 2 secs to make and does the same job , its good  if ya can't be arsed welding eyelets on 

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80 ounces

Wed, 2020-09-16 18:16

 80 ounces, wasting your time if not straight up and down. Most if not all bites are when you hit the bottom. Look down from any of the big towers in the world, Tokyo, Malaysia,Chicago from 400-500m puts a whole new perspective on where the bait may be in comparison to the boat. Add a bit of current, tide and wind into the mix and it becomes an art dropping on a Ledge in 500m. Soon get sick of pulling up another green eye if off the mark.

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Long way down

Wed, 2020-09-16 22:57

 Its along way down alright, i remember standing on the Observation Deck on the 86th floor of Petronas Towers, thinking no wonder it takes so long to drop baits lol, and thats only 360m IIRC.

Usually i start with 96oz sinker, and then change according to wind and current

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 speaking to a flow engineer

Thu, 2020-09-17 06:42

 speaking to a flow engineer once  -he recommended ball weights - rebar , snapper sinkers etc. will skew off in the water column and not track straight down

so if u can get mill balls would be better, i m stilll looking for someone who works in a crusher 

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 The problem with balls or

Thu, 2020-09-17 09:13

 The problem with balls or round bar is they roll all over the place when you put them down.

 

I use square bar, 2kg and have never had any issues. Stays where you put it....

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 Agreed, if you've got big

Thu, 2020-09-17 09:19

 Agreed, if you've got big cup holders welded into your gunnel, they go ok with a rag.. or just put them into a bucket. Deep dropping tends to be a team effort, I try and stay at the wheel until decky has deployed 

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great feedback, thank you all

Thu, 2020-09-17 09:33

 

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concret

Thu, 2020-09-17 10:07

Whats would be wrong with concrete cylinders ,bit of gravel and cement mixed in a pvc length of pipe as a mould bit of wire as eye .
Could make to any length/weight you like and if it breaks away no biggie ,low cost low pollution ?

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 no reason - except i work in

Thu, 2020-09-17 13:51

 no reason - except i work in metal not granno -so easier in that sense

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I have threaded bar with 6

Thu, 2020-09-17 14:27

I have threaded bar with 6 large nuts screwed onto it. The whole lot is wrapped in insulation tape allowing nuts to be removed if need be. There is a smaller nut welded on top for attaching the line and all-up they weigh 2.2kg.

I have not actually tried them yet so cant comment on their effectivness. 

 

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 lol on the fly weight

Thu, 2020-09-17 15:21

 lol on the fly weight adjustment

 

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 I made mine from old diff

Sun, 2020-09-20 10:33

 I made mine from old diff axles from the mechanic next door to me , free.

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 Plenty of good points above

Wed, 2020-09-23 07:57

 Plenty of good points above but here is my two C worth.

 

You've got to keep in mind it's the upper water column where the tide is obviously.

 

While it's important to get down quickly it's more important to set the boat on the right drift to hit your target, plenty of guys on here probably keep reversing up to keep lines up and down.

 

In saying that as long as your holding bottom it can be a good thing to cover some country.

 

Commercial guys generally speaking drop line for trevally and long line for Puka.

 

Trevally like the big drop off where as Puka are often on the flats or the bottom of the drop offs.

 

We've had pro gear drift a long way in a screaming tide and killed it. Hard to know whether we got them on the drop or over the next few hours as the gear moved and found fish that way.