Demersal Jigging Rods

What is everyone using at the moment for demersal jigging? Will be chasing a couple of rods in the not too distant future and just trying to get an idea of what's out there. Got my eye on a couple of MC works rods but they're damn near impossible to get hold of so need some alternatives. Will be looking at one for PE2 and 120-150g ish jigs and PE3 and 180-200g ish jigs. Length wise between 5'7" - 6' Price not an issue.


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MC WORKS rods are as rare as

Wed, 2011-04-13 16:43

MC WORKS rods are as rare as hens teeth mate

i tried for 3months to get one

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Yeah it sucks, dissapointing

Wed, 2011-04-13 16:50

Yeah it sucks, dissapointing though as so far nothing else has really impressed me.

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xzoga and hearty rise atm,

Wed, 2011-04-13 16:46

xzoga and hearty rise atm, nothing too fancy :p. I must say I do like jamies golden mean. Seemed pretty crisp.

(will be interesting to see what other people are using)

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I can speak for a few of us

Wed, 2011-04-13 17:03

I can speak for a few of us on here Jay that use the Majorcraft Alexander 60/3 for PE2 Jigging, all very impressed with them and have knocked over plenty of demersals.

They do range of jigging rods to suite all PE's. I barely see a rod on the market with Titanium guides in the same price range of the Majorcrafts.

 

Also have a look at the Poseidon Spin Jerker's...the name pretty much speaks for themselves

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Got a friend coming over from

Wed, 2011-04-13 17:45

Got a friend coming over from Asia very soon, he does Majorcraft and Evergreen, so find a model and get back to me asap and I'll ask for a price. I'm using his cheapseats alternatives: Golden Mean Earthshaker PE4 and Sabel Dance PE1 (yikes!).

They're both nice rods but if you want something just a bit different, and totally ace. Check out the Synit DeepShot 150?

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Thank till, the Synit

Wed, 2011-04-13 18:13

Thank till, the Synit Deepshot 150 is a bit shorter than what I'm after and doesn't seem like it's been designed for what I have in mind.

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Jay - just picked up a JM

Wed, 2011-04-13 18:26

Jay - just picked up a JM three Kings ultralight I reckon that might be pretty spot on for PE3 up there. Got an Ocea Jigger 1500nr on it but any of your nice jig reels would be sweet.

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 Just got a Ripplefisher 575,

Wed, 2011-04-13 22:06

 Just got a Ripplefisher 575, yet to catch anything on it though :(

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What do you think of the RF?

Thu, 2011-04-14 09:25

What do you think of the RF?

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 I don't have much to compare

Thu, 2011-04-14 22:59

 I don't have much to compare it to unfortunately.  All I can say is that I prefer it over my Evergreen PSPJ410 which feels like a broomstick by comparison 

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Giggle, when comparing a

Fri, 2011-04-15 07:58

Giggle, when comparing a pspj410 to broom stick, the pspj410 probably feels more like a broom stick than the actual broom stick.

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Have a majorcraft Alexander

Wed, 2011-04-13 19:17

Have a majorcraft Alexander pe2, very nice for lighter stuff 80-110 g.

My favorite is the hearty rise pe1.5 to 3 with ocea jigger on pe3. Can jig 100 to 200 g, not fancy but very nice feel.

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Haven't seen one yet but the

Wed, 2011-04-13 21:14

Haven't seen one yet but the new saltiga 2010 jig rods are around the right length and jig weight your looking at.

http://daiwafishing.com.au/?p=4317

You looking at spin or OH?

 

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Cheers Zac, looking at spin.

Thu, 2011-04-14 09:23

Cheers Zac, looking at spin.

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Yeah ive got a saltiga rod i use with a saltiga game 3500 reel

Fri, 2011-04-15 17:33

Alot of guys say they are over rated and you can get better value for money....

I also have a couple of smith jigging rods that are great but i guess my point is i like the saltiga rod just as much as the smith rods i have.

 

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Jay, I use a few rods from

Wed, 2011-04-13 21:34

Jay, I use a few rods from the MC Alexander range. I personally don't see the point in trying to hunt down a hard to get $1k light jig rod. I concede I have a few short supply, high demand heavy popping & jig rods, but for light work, I couldn't go past a good quality major craft for a third of the price.

see SamC's comments - agree 100%.

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Also loaded up SimonC's Maria

Wed, 2011-04-13 21:54

Also loaded up SimonC's Maria Steady Jigging 593 last week which was impressed with aswell, very similar to the taper of the AMJ smith's if you've ever played with one.

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Jigging Master Three Kings UL

Wed, 2011-04-13 22:25

Jigging Master Three Kings UL or I've got a older JM Terminator 150gm that I've got a Trinidad 12 on and it is one sweet combo for light demersal work.

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Lemax

Wed, 2011-04-13 23:18

Lemax SlimMax 6'6" 12-40lb sweet rod with heaps of grunt

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currently using a hearty rise

Wed, 2011-04-13 23:28

currently using a hearty rise jigforce pe1.5-3 matched up to a 5000sw running pe3...mad combo with heaps of power. contemplating wether or not to upgrade to a jm powerspell pe1.5-3, such a sweet rod!

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Use the force Jay.

Wed, 2011-04-13 23:51

Use the force Jay.

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Jay,If you know which

Thu, 2011-04-14 09:45

Jay,

If you know which MC works rod you want in particular, you can send me a PM. Alternatively, if you want a really light rod like PE1, I'm thinking of selling my Golden Mean.

 

Kasey

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G'day KC, looking at Northern

Thu, 2011-04-14 10:13

G'day KC, looking at Northern Blue Evolution NB603SS, NB604SS and NB605SS. Spoke with Tak best option might be to put in a custom order and wait 12 months.

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You can try Tak as well - he

Thu, 2011-04-14 13:57

You can try Tak as well - he has a direct line

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Geez,

Thu, 2011-04-14 11:06

i'm a little embarrased to say what I use given some of the gear being mentioned by the gear junkies

Eupro Exploder II pe2-4, been very happy with it so far.

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Matt,At least its not a

Thu, 2011-04-14 13:55

Matt,

At least its not a 'Ruler of the Sea, A Brand New Creator' rod!

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Dont forget 'Born to lead'

Thu, 2011-04-14 14:02

Dont forget 'Born to lead' and 'Dare to challenge'.  I swear they thought of a few slogans, couldnt decide and just went with all of them.

 

TBH though, I love my xzoga PE2. So many demersals caught on that thing, its great. Sure, its not really japanese (writing it in カタカナ doesnt make it so) and there are better rods out there, but for under $300 when I got it, it has been a pretty damn good rod.

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How did you write ...

Thu, 2011-04-14 23:09

katakana in your post hlokk?  Is there a downloadable font somewhere? 

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It's not - its a Malaysian

Fri, 2011-04-15 21:00

It's not - its a Malaysian brand and Malaysian-made. Writing it in カタカナ and having Japanese flags plastered all over the place only makes it more of a 'wannabe' brand bordering on false advertising - especially when it tries to sell itself in the same price bracket as properly field tested and balanced Japanese rods.

Oh well, they do a decent job of marketing and building up hype. Caveat emptor.

P.S. 300AUD is now something like 1000 Malaysian Ringgit - even at that price someone in between has been laughing all the way to the bank.

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mmmm,I 'field tested' a

Sat, 2011-04-16 18:28

mmmm,I 'field tested' a couple of Xzoga rods 3yrs ago at the 3 Kings...on a trip with Mogi and the grouper boys - they were using Carpenter, Valley Hill, Fisherman, blah, blah and MC works(exact same rods they are still making 3 yrs on....couple of the grouper boys managed to convert them to 2 piece as well)

Anyway, the Xzoga rods were custom models and really impressed.

It's easy to get caught up in 'brand porn' and miss out on fantastic gear....another couple of examples -

Kiwell Talon - dimissed it when I first saw it - but what a rod, immensely powerful with great attention to detail

WS Laurie 'Nemesis' 450S

These rods are phenomenal - beautifully made, light, incredibly strong....my new favourite jigging rod...I have the 250 OH

John the owner was 'field testing' a new 150g model at the 3 Kings last week..........

 

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Sean,I'm sure some of the

Sat, 2011-04-16 19:24

Sean,

I'm sure some of the rods perform well enough (It's not hard to get good blanks these days) but its more the 'false advertising' that really makes it distastefull, I would say. Since the only Japanese part of those rods might be the Fuji guides, I wonder why they try and capitalise so much on the 'Japan' thing....

Perhaps its so they can price their product in the same 'super premium' category, would be a good guess.

Anyway, as I said - this means they've achieved a good job marketing (or misleading, depending on your perspective) their products well enough that people will pay the price.

 

Their other sister company with the same guys positions itself as from England/UK - talk about gear reputedly from different ends of the world coming from the same warehouse!

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Have you ever thought about

Thu, 2011-04-14 20:27

Have you ever thought about looking at Kilwell rods from NZ? Zane Grey discovered Game Fishing in NZ long before Bermagui, and a lot of good fishing gear was produced there as a result of that.

As a kid growing up in NZ we were jigging for Demersals, namely Snapper and Hapuka using Grim Reaper Lures and Penn Squidders on Kilwell rods and I'm talking 30 plus years ago.

When I 1st came to WA no one new what Jigging was.

I know a few people building rods these days and they swear by Kilwell, so maybe check this site out.

 

http://www.kilwell.co.nz/Saltwater_Rods_KilwellRodCraft.html

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Another rod is an albagraph from NZ

Fri, 2011-04-15 20:06

i have a custom 4b, fishing 20lb and it is absolutely awesome. cant rate it enough. like any high peformance graphite they need to be babied a bit, but worth it!!

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talk to Tony at Yeehaa in

Fri, 2011-04-15 13:46

talk to Tony at Yeehaa in Auckland, NZ...he'll be happy to lighten your wallet

http://www.yeehaa.co.nz/products/yeehaafishingmcworksrods_5.html

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medusa custom craft

Sat, 2011-04-16 20:06

Saltywatertackle.com had a shipment come in a while back but only in standard form might have some jigging ones left

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Yamaga Blanks

Fri, 2011-05-20 13:43

Got myself a Yamaga Blanks Galahad PE3 Max rod lure max 120g.

Tried it at Eden NSW caught some fish ( pinkies aka small snapper, rock cod & flathead)- nothing  big to put a bend on the rod.

Find the rod very soft and easy to jig with. However, not sure how much hurt it can put on the fish.

That is a 1 piece rod with titanium guides.

http://yamaga-blanks.com/product/galhad.html

 

Will be using it up in NT next month jigging up demersals, perhaps I can shed some light on its performance then.

 

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Just got back from my darwin

Mon, 2011-06-27 17:32

Just got back from my darwin jigging trip.

Didn't get any black jew or spaniards to give the rod a good work out but managed to snare a parrot/tusk fish, bluenose salmon, and a golden snapper (finger mark bream). I mate the rod with a 2010 Certate 3000. 

The rod has a rather soft tip allowing me to work the lighter jigs very well. It is so light which makes it a pleasure to jig all day. The only complaint I have is the handle of the certate being a tad too short. I use to jig with a Caldia Kix 3000 and the handle is longer ( or i feel it is longer anyway). Jigging with the new Certate feels a little awkward.

I notice how much the rod bent when I was fighting a bluenose salmon but there is still enough power for me to steer the goldie away from the danger.

All in all I love the rod can't wait to land a Dhufish on it!