PE8 Braid
Submitted by Ectopic on Thu, 2009-12-03 20:17
Another questions for you folks 
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Trying to decide what braid (PE8) to spool a SW20000 with. I've read that your looking at around about 350m of PE8 braid which kinda sucks given the usual 100, 300, 600 yard/m it is sold in.
I did see that YGK jig man ultra can be bought as 100m 'joined' spools up to 1200m but 'joined' sounds dodgey. Anyone tried this before?
-Eric
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kinga86
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Its not "joined" so to
Its not "joined" so to speak, its all 1 roll of line but you can decide how many 100m spools you want! Vote 1 for jigman its great stuff :)
Rob C
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I use YGK jigman ultra in
I use YGK jigman ultra in pe8 on a EXP and cant fault this at all, The spools dont actualy have a join, it is one continuous 1200m length spooled over 12 100mtr spools.
Rob
Ectopic
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Apparently is is joined:
Apparently one piece of line wrapped over joined spools:
http://www.anglers-proshop.com/product_view.php?product_id=124
So no problems with weakness between spools then...
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hlokk
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The spools are in 100m
The spools are in 100m spools, but the line is continuous across spools (up to 12 i think) so there arent any actual joins in the line, its just how they're spooled up. I dont think theres really all that much difference between 300 and 350m. I think 350m is the 'stated capacity' for PE8, but you may as well just run a little backing.
As for braid, go either varivas, or ygk ultra jigman. Keep in mind, they're 110lb+. PE6 is 85/86lb if you wanted more line but wanted 80lb min (a lot of people think PE8=80lb and so on).
Btw, what rod did you end up going.
till
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Umm that link doesn't
Umm that link doesn't work.
Irrespective, its not a join. Its one thread across all the spools. The idea is that they can cut off a few lengths to sell, if people want less than 1200m
Rob C
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Yes as you say its wrapped
Yes as you say its wrapped over several spools. If you dont want to spend the money and not fussed about the meter marks have a look at the Jerry Brown Solid.
This line looks the goods.
Rob
PilbaraBrad
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can vouch for the jerry
can vouch for the jerry brown solid, mate of mine is popping with the pe10 on his 18000, not bad line
till
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I think Huggy picked up some
I think Huggy picked up some recently? Or perhaps his was hollow?
Ectopic
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Yeah, even though its a
Yeah, even though its a single piece, I was just worried than perhaps the line would be weakened by stretching it over so many spools, I must be just paranoid.(OCD personality trait
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Till: that link works for me (no idea why)
Hlokk: after searching the net I've ordered a Hots One Pitch Slider SOS56XH, it came down to availability really. The SOS56XH apparently less prone to breakage than the wei's world (we'll see).
Still have an eye out for a Ripplefisher. Was keen on a 5215 but they seem to be sold out everywhere. (Thanks for the offer RobC, but I've been too flat-out to checkout your rod!) Will consider the 5620, which is a new model, apparently lighter than the 5215 (but 5'6").
Still need to purchase a SW20000, want to checkout local stores first but if not price competitive will order from overseas (sorry, sensitive topic!!). Anyone bought one recently for a good price?
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DazSamFishing
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As Kasey mentioned - you're
As Kasey mentioned - you're comparing 2 completely different rods here (One Pitch vs. Wei World). Both rods require a great amount of respect... i.e. stricly no high sticking & monitor the use if you lend it to mates. Both are great rods - but both have similar purposes, but different limitations.
Re: 20000SW purchase. I personally buy a lot of my 'specialist tackle' overseas. Only purely due to price. I buy a lot of tackle locally & would prefer to buy my specialist tackle locally, however, money & availability factors play a big role in the top end gear. Some of the savings I've made are quite astronomical.
Oh, I use YGK Ultra Jig Man PE8 - great braid. If you intend to use it whilst jigging for sambos & whilst on charter, try to consider another high quality cheaper braid so you don't have a whinge if you lose plenty due to line cuts against other anglers.
Ask Jamie (Till), he lost all his YGK... I also lost 50m of my YGK & now only use Tufline for my sambo jigging safari's. On Sunday, I lost 100m of Tufline - but I'll shrug it off due to it's affordability.
Ectopic
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Thanks Daz, Once again
Thanks Daz,
Once again 'hard' info on many of these rods is hard to obtain. Of course they are different rods but care to elaborate on 'different limitations' ?
The lack of info is frustrating!. It would be great if those of use with such specialist equipment could review/compare such rods for others...
Will consider getting cheaper braid for charters.. makes sense.
Feel free to PM any recommended O/S shops.
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DazSamFishing
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Ectopic - you've chose a
Ectopic - you've chose a very good rod. I previously ordered a Wei World over a month ago, purely because I wanted a high quality piece of equipment, that is light weight, but more importantly, something that can seriously take punishment from both the angler & fish. However, I ended up with a Valley Hill & Evergreen jigging rod.
I should have mentioned earlier - I am not too familiar with the One Pitch Slider. - so excuse my initial ignorance. My first thought was that you had purchased a SOS56H, which is a step behind a Wei World - purely in ability to land big fish. The SOS56XH on the other hand seems like a very tough rod.
The Wei World is more suited to 'deep water' jigging, hence, the length of both options (4'8 & 5'2).
Though, both rods offer a parabolic curve, are extremely light weight & fish long sliding jigs quite effectively.
Ectopic
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Yeah, I figured I'd buy
Yeah, I figured I'd buy something different. It will be interesting to see what it's like. Specs from Hots website;
One pitch slider SOS56XH Length:5.6feet Pieces: one LineWT: PE6～10 JERK MAX:420g
Hots wei world 52XH Length:5.2feet Pieces: one LineWT: PE8 JERK MAX:420g
I'm keeping an eye out on the Ripplefisher 5620; the tackleshop I've enquired at says its a newer model, similar to the 5215 but 4 inches longer and lighter. May place an order if they get stock in before this sambo season ends. Would be interesting to compare with RobC's 5215.
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Kasey L.
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the one pitch slider and the
the one pitch slider and the wei world are completely different rods!
Ectopic
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Yeah... hence the different
Yeah... hence the different model designation. Read on another forum they were less prone to breakage, figured they'd be better for a beginner like me!
http://www.sportfishermen.com/board/f172/hots-wei-world-48xxh-alternative-392271.html
Kasey, have you used both, how do they compare?
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wildinp
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whiplash
does anyone use whiplash braid at all for jigging? i use it on most of my other reels but have not yet put any on for jigging
hlokk
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Pretty sure Ryan Thipthorp
Pretty sure Ryan Thipthorp does. I much prefer the colour marked braids just so you know how much longer you have til the bottom, can gauge the amount your line is drifting (e.g. if 100m deep but 100m of line out but not at the bottom), allows you to work a certain number of meters instead of getting half way up to the boat, and lets you know when you're halfway when fighting the fish, how much line the fish take, and also allow them to vent around the 20m mark (though you can sometimes just see them which is a good timing indicator). Used my own braid on jigging charters but havent lost any line (just gotta have a deckie and other members who know what they're doing when you get a tangle and reduce the amount of pressure you apply).
Ryan Thipthorp (not verified)
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Whippy!
Yep, use my 80lb Whiplash on my Stella 20000SW for sambo jigging. Also use the same on my Daiwa megatwin overhead reel for deepwater jigging ie harpuka/bass/blue-eye trevalla etc
Thin, strong, reliable and well priced when compared to premium Japanesse PE stuff. I've used it before and dont mind spending big bucks on gear but i need to see the benefits. Also used the colour depth lines and dont think its either necessary or worth the money (each to their own). My Whiplash has caught me a shit load of fish without any issues what so ever!