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Two rocks Sunday 4th

Went out from two rocks yesterday headed out round the 25 mile mark plenty fish on sound but not to much biting.moved round alot ended up with 3 baldies 1 size and 1 3 foot bronzie. Did everyone else find not to much being caught.spoke to a couple of guys at the ramp and they were saying not much taking bait but the boat next to them fishing the same ground cleaned up on plastics.


Couple of Metro Macks

Myself and another fishwrecked member Silly hit the water pretty early on sunday  to chase a few spaniards

 

Quite a bit of action early on with a decent 7kg fish landed within the first hour plus lost another hooter right next to the boat when the fish saw the boat & really took off in the other direction pulling free of the lure.

 

It was quite weedy out there, esspecially in the current lines which was frustrating at times but paid off when were lucky enough to pick up another 10kg macky plus a decent maybe 5kg Striped which actually tasted good marinaded in soy & lemon then seared on the bbq. I'd keep another one any day. Tried some for sashimi but it tasted too fishy to eat raw.

 

we believe the first one was a narrow banded mack as the markings suggested, plus the skin was quite rough compared to the second one.

 

here's a few pics

 

 


Any South Africans on this Forum ?

Hi guys I have been an inactive member on your forum, and have read and seen some really cool things on here . 

I am visiting sunny Australia, My sister's Wedding in Perth . 

An I just wondered are there any Expats on here . 

As for my Fishing agenda , things are unknown , and still to be researched on my side . 

Any Ideas , spots , species from the locals will be appreciated ....

Please enlighten me .

Regards 


cockburn sound snapper

 hey, just got back froma day out in the sound with dad fishing for snapper. we found some school of what we think were snapper, dropped some baits on them had one hookup but lost it son after. we then went out to inbetweeen carnac island and garden islan and i hooked and laded a massive eagle ray. that was it for the day. 

 

anyone else haveing any luck with snapper in the sound ?

 

cheers pom 


Braided line life expectancy.

I was wondering how long you would leave a reel spooled with braid before removing it and respooling it. I was using a penn spinfisher 9500ss that was spooled with braid a fair while ago and became suss on the quality of the braid after having it break above the double twice under a load I would expect it to handle no problems. I know there is the possibility of damage from various sources but I'm thinking the braid has just had it's day. Any opinions appreciated.


STOLEN BOAT!!!!

Hey guys need help from all eyes on the sight. Had my boat stolen last night from the side of my house. It was taken from Hocking (near Wanneroo) betwwen 12am and 1am. It is a 6.1m Bermuda with an inboard turbo diesel with mercruiser leg. It is a one of a kind in WA! The boat rego is BR563. The police have told me there is slim chance of finding it so i need all the help i can get. There is a gps on board with 10 years of co-ordinates which is bringing me to tears. Any info that leads to the recovery will be offered a reward. My mobile number is 0407651444 or pm me. Cheers guys


Best mono

Hey guys/girls, looking for peoples thoughts on mono, what's the best mono going around at the moment, or what's everyone using, looking at 50lb and 20lb suggestions would be very much appreciated. Thanks Rails8291


2012 Salmon

Has any one caught any salmon around the capes area yet this year?


Chase the ACE Friday nights @ MBFC

 enlightenedChase the Ace starting again this friday 9/3/12 $Cash$ jackpot starting at $400 then upwards until the winner takes all, Drawn 7pm but be early to get your tickets!$$$$$$$$
Also a charity meat raffle early in the eveningyes
BBQ available or you can purchase a hamburger or a sizzled snag sanga for $2.00 If your a member or a guest of a member, come along and join the fun, music and friends at Mangles Bay Fishing ClubcoolKid Friendly too!smiley


Caprice Does it Again

After 5 weeks out of the water due to some boat mods I finally got out on Saturday. Weather wasn't the best with moderate NE winds but managed to do OK anyway. Jigging was tough early in the morning with a quick drift but as the drift slowed the fish started to come on the bite. Manged to find a few dhuies with the best falling to one of my favourite jigs, a Caprice. Decky Mark landed his first dhuie on a plastic so he was pretty stoked. I also scored my first double header on a jig. Not sure if I hooked the baker first then the dhuie went for that but hey I still will claim it. After bagging out with a good BB and nanny we decided to go jig some sambos. Picked up the odd fish including a amba but didn't really find any large schools. Thats probably the last fish for a while as I'm of to Exy in a couple of weeks and have a million things to do.


Live chat?

Wondering why this site doesnt have live chat?

Would it be to hard to set up?

Would certainly come in handy for some quick answers from the people in the know.

Cheers


Talica12 2 speed

Hi all just bout to purchase a Talica12 2 speed anyone got any feedback on them and would this be big enough for the mackies and tuna any info much appreciated cheers


Night trolling

Me and my mates were discussing this the other day.Would it work?Anyone ever tried?


Best dhuy bait?

Hey just wondering what you bait guys use while hunting a dhuy,

Last few days i have found 2 really good baits for the dhuys aswell as other fish like snapper/baldies and blackass


Gangsters n Molls night

 Saturday 10th march. Fancy dress [if you want to] live entertainment and supper provided. Tickets $15 p/head, available from the club or at the door on the night. 7pm start. Mangles Bay Fishing Club, Point Peron rd, Rockingham. All welcome.


Gotta find some new ground or I'll go nuts...

...haven't caught anything in a week down through East Freo, Point Walter, etc. Does anyone have some ideas before I'm committed permanently?


Who's heading out tomorrow

 Just wondering who's heading out tomorrow ?


Mandurah

A couple of questions, and I'm not necesarily after secret spots or anything (Although they would be welcome!) but how close in can you find tuna, sampsonfish, snapper, etc? I've moved to Silver Sands late last year, been fishing the beaches here, but given it up as a bad joke, looking at getting a boat, seeing the Mrs has all but given it the tick of approval. I haven't got a huge budget or much storage space at the moment, so the smaller I can get away with the better...to a point! I'd also appreciate any pointers on how to find gummies here too. 

I realise I'm probably being a bit ambitious asking about tuna, but if bonito can come into Cockburn sound, surely they must come in close to Mandurah, along with stripies, etc? I've done a lot of small boat tuna fishing over east, is it a possibility here? I'm more into sporting, fighting fish than eating, and I don't plan on heading out a long way to bottom bounce

Cheers


Possible new tub?

http://perth.gumtree.com.au/c-Boats-Jet-Skis-boats-jet-skis-other-Russian-submarine-W0QQAdIdZ358595765

 

Just saw this add on gumtree. Cant imagine to many russian subs being on the market. Plenty of deck space.


Addition to Lure Fishing Post - Lure Collection (Mar 2012)

I wanted to add some pictures of the lures I use to give people some idea of what I catch fish on. I hope you enjoy the pics.

David.


Attention Rod Builders

 So I have access to a Jigging Master Powerspell 400 that's been snapped and was wondering if the guides and reel seat can be used in building a new rod? It's only been used a few times. How much would that save on costs of a rod build? 

Anyone out there keen to build me a PE6-8 jig spin using the guides and stuff off the JM rod?

Cheers,

Ben.


No one wants to or can deckie??

This post may be frowned upon by most but here goes.

Spoke to mate 1 yesterday at bbq and was put out there nice weather big day fishing tomorrow, maybe is the call from him but today he's hung over also has to pick up a couple of pool tables tomorrow and his wife is sick so he has the kids... fair enough.

Mate 2 is already going fishing with his dad.

Mate 3 just went sleep so have to wait and see if he wants to when he wakes up.

Mate 4 has no license like me so cant really help. (although he is still keen to come)

Brother isnt interested as he's a lazy %$#@.

Dads just gone on holidays.

Brother in law also did not seem interested.

Mate 5 is away working.

Cousin is away working.

Mate 6 has no drivers license or fishing gear so would be of no use to me only a burden.

Never been so hard to go fishing in my life.

What a joke.

"EDIT"

Sorry guys this isnt me looking for a fw deckie although im sure theres heaps of great people/deckies available here, its more of a whinge all my mates and family are busy or away and i cant get the boat to the water alone.


Friday avo fish

got a call from my mate lunchtime Friday saying pack up lets go fishing. He only had to ask once. We headed towards Rotto from Hillarys on a glassy ocean. Picked up these on plastics and bait in a few hours. cheers Pete.


need info on the kalgan river

hay guys i just need some info and some tips on fishing the kalgan river, albany.

i'm staying at the caravan park at the mouth and i will be doing most of my fishing off my kayak.

also wondering what i would catch and what lures to use. i know the basics, eg. blades, soft plastics and diving minnows for bream and flathead.

would surface lures be any good in the river. i know that bream and whiting attack them but i have never tryed fishing with them.

any info would be apprieciated heaps.

thanks.


San remo beach

Hey guys/girls how are we all

Just wondering what San Remo beach has been like lately, if there has been much caught there,
thanks rails


San remo beach

Hey guys/girls how are we all

Just wondering what San Remo beach has been like lately, if there has been much caught there,
thanks rails


guide changing

 hey just got home to find out my little brothr was playing with one of my rods and left it n the floor in the garage and dad has ran  over it, two of the guides are bent and the eyes have fallen out

anyone know how much this will cost to fix ? or anyone who dose this sought of thing ?

 

cheers pom 


butter fish

It would appear, that lately, I have become an expert at catching Butter fish.

Could anyone tell me if they are good for live bait!!

 

Thanks


Alvey Reel Nightmare

Hi. I've got an Alvey 650, attached to a 10 ft Lemax Blue Diamond rod. The first time I used this combo was at Floreat drain. Strong crosswind. When casting I found that big loops of line sprung (really sprung) off the reel causing horror wind knots and so on. I switched back to my Daiwa Silverspin. I've got Suffix mono on the Alvey now but have yet to try it out. I was wondering what peoples thoughts were - should I use braid, will the Suffix be okay? What kind of lines are others using on Alveys?

 

Much appreciated,

 

Dave.


Thoughts on Successful Lure Fishing

I originally posted this on WA Fishing. I'm no lure expert, but this is a catalog of my experiences on inshore and estuary lure fishing. I hope people get something positive out of it.

Regards,

Dave.

 

Thoughts on Successful Lure Fishing:

Version 1. 25th Feb 2012.

David Vitali.


Lure fishing is a fun, satisfying, exciting and productive way to fish. I hear so many people say “I never catch anything on lures!”. I also saw a young boy the other day with a lovely little spin outfit with a Rio Prawn rigged. The only issue was that the lure was far too big for the species in the area he was fishing. So I decided to write this mini-article. I’m no lure expert or guru at anything really but I do catch fish on lures. I hope that my experiences described in this thread might be of value to someone. Perhaps there’s another budding young fisherman or fisherlady out there wanting to get into the art of lure fishing but are not quite sure how. Hopefully there’s some ideas below for them. Note: I only cover esturine and inshore lure fishing, but some of the principles also apply to fishing pelagics offshore.

1. Rod and Reel:

A light spin outfit with a fine, whippy rod tip is needed to cast light lures any distance. I've found that a 2000 or 2500 series reel works best. I'm currently using a Daiwa Presio on a 6'6" Fishing Western Austalia Finess Spinning rod. The combination is well balanced, light and gives you good cast distance even with the lightest of lures. Line is also part of that equation and is discussed below.

2. Line, Rig and Lure Presentation:

Line should be light braid or mono roughly 2-4kg with an appropriate fluorocarbon leader. I use 6lb Nanofil with 10lb Daiwa fluorocarbon leader. As for the rig, I’ve found the simpler the better. I use a tiny black crane swivel between mainline and leader to eliminate any line twist. I use a leader length of 1m+ with a fairly generous loop at the bottom with a small, wire clip (travelling on the loop) to make it easy to switch lures on the fly. These clips are cheap and don’t seem to detract anything from the lure at all. The loop is there to allow the lures I’m using a full range of natural motion. Having said that, many people do not use a swivel at all - they tie their leader directly to their mainline with a double-uni or equivalent line-line knot. It’s worth trying this arrangement before adding a swivel because when lure fishing less is definitely more. You don’t want shiny swivels and other tackle spooking your fish - you want your lure presented in a way that appears natural to the fish you’re targeting. A good knowledge of knots is therefore essential.

3. Selecting and Buying Lures:

When selecting and purchasing your lures, always consider your target species, its environment and what it generally preys on. Lures need to look and behave similarly to your target fish's prey to achieve the deception needed to catch them. The lure should be the approximate size as the prey item and in general move through the water in a similar way and at around the same depth as the prey. Lure colour is a controversial topic but I've found it important for several reasons, one of which is the clarity of the water you're fishing - the target fish have to be able to see it. Same consideration for overcast days or at times when sunlight is at a premium. For example, lets consider targeting Bartailed Flathead in an estuarine emvionent such as the Swan. We know the FH is an ambush predator, sitting on the edge of dropoffs or around weedbanks when there is tidal movement making small baitfish and crustaceans (such as river prawns and crabs) available. We therefore know that the strike zone is around the bottom and for an environment such as the Swan, that our lure should resemble a small baitfish (mullet/hardyhead/whitebait) or prawn. Many lures fit the bill, but particularly the Strike Pro Shrimp in a river prawn colour and various small to medium divers and blades, such as Shimano Lure Project medium-deep runners, Atomic Hardz Shad 50 DDs, small Strike-Pro Cybervibe and TT 1/8oz blades for example. When I've selected my lure, I generally get two. I aim for the second to be roughly of the same type but in a different coloration (lighter or darker). Occasionally I'll choose one "fishy" looking lure and then a "prawny" looking lure of the same type. Quite often I've found myself getting no bites at all and upon changing to the second/alternate lure - bang, first cast. In terms of behaviour, lures can move on one or more axis when being retrieved: (a) sway (side to side); (b) pitch (up and down) and (c) roll. Pick lures that have the characteristics of your target species prey items and you will increase your chances of success. The way you work the lure through the water, over and above its standard behaviour, also contributes greatly to your success when fishing with lures (again, I’ll expand upon this shortly).

4. Having a Comprehensive Set of Lures:

To be really successful at lure fishing, I've found that you often need to rotate what you're using to something else when you’re not getting bites – often many times. I'll sometimes rotate through up to 10 lures when I'm wading and hitting a single area. I have two pocket boxes full of them to allow me plenty of options when I'm out there. These options include: surface poppers; surface walkers; sliders; suspending divers, medium/deep divers; deep divers (large and small); vibes; blades and a few metal slices of various sizes just in case some tailor or giant herring turn up. I don’t use all of these lures in a single session by any means. Generally when I’m fishing a specific area I’ll give a lure about four casts and if no bites then I’ll change. I’ve seen so many poor souls bashing away for hours with the same lure and getting no results, which must be very disheartening. I also work the entire water column (which I’ll expand on shortly). You can gradually build up your lure collection – you don’t need to go out and instantly spend $$$ to get started. But do spend your money wisely.

5. Working Lures:

I use about four basic techniques with lures: (a) yo-yo; (b) twitch; (c) stop/start; (d) speed up/slow down. Yo-yo: retrieving a lure such as a jig, blade or vibe, lifting the rod tip to make it flutter up then lowering your tip and continue the retrieve. When you lower your rod tip the lure will flutter down and resume its normal swimming pattern. This technique is particularly effective on flathead when using blades. Twitch: similar to the yo-yo but I use this more with divers and poppers. You give the rod a sharp twitch upwards to get the lure to hit the bottom and kick up a puff of sand, or in the case of a popper a little splash or zip, then resume your normal retrieve. Stop/start: literally pause your retrieve for a second or two, then resume. Many fish such as bream will take the lure on the pause. During the pause, you are allowing the fish to catch up and you can also make it more enticing based on the lure at hand. For example most vibes and blades will flutter down when paused. Floating divers slowly rise upwards. Speed up/slow down: literally give the lure a couple of fast turns intermittently on your retrieve, imitating a prey item attempting to escape and enticing the fish to bite.

6. Working the Water Column:

I’ve found that working the water column from top down is a great way to find and encourage fish to bite. I start off with a popper or walker, then down to a suspender or shallow runner, then a vibe or blade, then a diver with the target depth dictated by the lure. Even if you’re not getting any hits on a popper, as you work down the water column, you’ll often find that all the commotion on the surface has stimulated fish further down. When you get to that depth you’ll often get a strike I’ve found. This happened with a Flattie the other day. You could even get a big surprise, like I did when I caught my first monster Yellowfin Whiting on a popper.

7. Finding the Fish:

When wading or shore bashing movement is essential. I've often had strikes immediately after moving or changing angle, but I've also had many cases where a lure change has also resulted in a strike. My general principle is to hit one fairly large area with several lures, right through the water column if possible, before moving on to new ground. I'll generally give a lure about four casts in different spots around the area before rotating to something else (e.g. from a blade to a deep diver; from a surface lure to a suspender). I'll go through a few lure changes like this before moving onto another area (a new weedbank cluster, turbid water, drop-off, etc). When moving, I also cast along my line of approach to the new area in case something is around. I've seen too many big puffs of sand and darting fish. Nothing worse than disturbing a big Flattie and watch it screech out of sight and off into deeper water.

8. Keeping Your Lures in Optimum Working Order:

Salt destroys lures. Amongst other things hooks and split rings rust quickly. To prevent this I always rinse the lures I've used after every fishing session in fresh water and let them dry. Periodically, I also remove all my lures from their travel boxes and wash/dry the boxes and all the lures. Doing this helps your lures maintain optimum working order and they will also last for many years, which is a good thing because generally, they're not cheap. I've found that for the most part - but certainly not always - you get what you pay for.

9. "Every lure has its day":

Don't be discouraged when a lure that works one day, doesn't get touched the next. Rotate through the lures applicable to your fishing situation and if there are fish around, something will eventually bite. If not, move around – rotating through applicable lures - until you locate your target fish.

10. Berleying:

I sometimes use berley pellets to get fish - particularly the ones I see chasing the lure I'm using - to strike. I've found that you can get great results doing this if the fish are timid (e.g. in shallow water) or the fishing very slow. Carrying a couple of handfuls of pellets when you're wading or shore bashing can sometimes mean the difference between fish or no.

11. My Essentials:

I'm going to go out on a limb and make a shortlist of what I consider to be my top 10 (essential) lures, the ones that I couldn't do without.

Poppers and Surface Walkers:

Sebile Splasher 65 in dark green and gold fleck.
Berkley 3B Scum Dog in clear prawn.

Vibes and Blades:

River to Sea Baby Vibe 35 in dark brown with black spots.
Strike Pro 6.6gm Cybervibe in green and silver.
TT 1/8oz blade in burnt orange.

Suspenders:

Strike Pro Shrimp in river prawn.

Sliders:

Lil' Jack in mullet pattern.

Divers:

Cultiva SP Rainbow Trout.
Atomic Shad 50 DD in prawn colouration.

Slices:

Halco 10gm chrome.

12. A Note on Blade Lure Tuning:

Most blade lures have three anchor points for the small clip they come with. Out of the box, the clip is usually on the second (from front) anchor point. I have seen some blades experience problems with their standard clip arrangement, with hooks fouling on the leader. If you buy a blade give it a workout and if it fouls on the leader, move the clip forward by one anchor point (hole). By moving the clip, the attitude of the lure should change just enough to keep the hooks from fouling.

13. Miscellaneous:

Polarised sunnys are a must, especially when wading to find good ground to fish and even fish themselves. I also use camo to minimise spooking the fish. At the first sign of black, I've found they're off - rapidly. To a fish, a dark shape in the water probably = predator.