AFL 2023
Submitted by Jackfrost80 on Tue, 2023-03-07 14:13
Anyone want to have a crack at the end of season AFL ladder? Last week I had West Coast in the top 8 
1. Geelong
2. Brisbane
3. Sydney
4. Melbourne
5. Fremantle
6. Collingwood
7. Richmond
8. Carlton
9. Western Bulldogs
10. Gold Coast
11. Port Adelaide
12. Adelaide
13. GWS
14. Essendon
15. St Kilda
16. West Coast
17. North Melbourne
18. Hawthorn
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Soccer? What went wrong there
Soccer? What went wrong there Unc?
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Grandson is nephew
of soccer's stan lazaridis, so its natural I guess.
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I didnt watch but listened
I didnt watch but listened on the radio Unc,
Crows seem to be playing some good footy....
Still pretty open for the flag...
Teams that are playing the Eagles twice have an advantage, top 4 could come down percentage...
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Yeah
They had their chances
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Recon Simmo wants nothing
Recon Simmo wants nothing more than to be let go...but that's the last thing the Eagles need, plus who wants the fill-in job to get hammered mentally for a few years before likely getting the axe himself.
So you now have a pile of players you want out...but cant as still contracted and they wont retire, plus you have a coach you really need to keep, but wants out and I recon will walk even though still contracted.
Cluster fk..
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Yep it's a bloody mess and I
Yep it's a bloody mess and I have no idea how to fix it. Sacking the coach will only shut up the whingers for a short time and then they'll want more blood anyway. Problem runs a lot deeper than what is on the paddock each week.
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Question
I have a question,
If this was happening to Fremantle, would there be the same outcry as what is going on now?
Me thinks not! The end is a long way off and sadly its all their doing in the taking of a last gasp chance at a finals finish that didn't eventuate and their fitness people not doing their job
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Ha ha no there wouldn't be
Ha ha no there wouldn't be mate as they are used to their mediocrity, we're not that's why all the chardy set are jumping up and down. It's a mangement cluster f&ck pure and simple. I'll stand by them through the long haul, always have. They've had hard days before especially when incepted into the supposed AFL against a biased Victorian comp. Nesbitt should have his neck on the block first.
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Your comments puts in the
Your comments puts in the Chardy crew Andy, not that we had any doubts.
Fk...Ross lyon lost a few game and the west coast 7 head hunted him until the club had no choice, you mob have short memories.
Typical west coast arrogance.
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If you think we're arrogant
If you think we're arrogant now wait until we win a 5th flag before Freo win one
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Lol if the cap fits I'll
Lol if the cap fits I'll wear it.
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It's always the vfls fault ha ha
Bet their to blame for saturday
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It's always the vfls fault ha ha
Bet their to blame for saturday
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After 9000 odd posts uncle I
After 9000 odd posts uncle I thought you would have stopped double posting by now.... but I guess you are a Collingwood supporter.
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Just think
Just think Billy, now that you're moving south you'll be able to get to see the boys play live!
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Be moving just in time to
Be moving just in time to see the improvements..... I hope
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Yeah and I still
Don't know how??
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Lol stop pressing the back
Lol stop pressing the back arrow. Post then go straight to latest content .
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I don't even know what to
I don't even know what to say.... I remember how sorry I used to feel for Sydney, Brisbane Bears and Fitzroy in the 90s and that's us at the moment. I do look back to round 1-3 and we looked pretty competitive before the demolition derby and it's just been getting worse and worse since then.
All the talk this week of sacking Simmo. You just need to look across the Nullarbor to see how unsuccessful that’s been for Carlton and St Kilda but I’ll put a caveat on that….
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I tend to agree Frosty,
I tend to agree Frosty, although I don't have the depth of knowledge that you and some others here do. I think the real problem is senior payers either not being fit to play or playing very badly. How much have we been getting out of Gaff, Sheed, Cole, etc. over the last few years.
Some of these kids will make it but we have a raft of guys that have had their chances and are just not up to it. Think Petruccelle, Waterman, Foley etc. They may come good but I doubt it from what we've seen. I think the next wave of players will deliver more talent than that lot. Time will tell.
I haven't been on the changing coach bandwagon, and I'm still not unless a decent replacement is available. No point paying out a shitload on Simmo's contract plus the soft cap penalties to the AFL if there is no-one to step into the job.
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Except Swans, Bears, Lions
Except Swans, Bears, Lions were all off the back of many years of non competitive football, financial mismanagement and lack of fan support.
Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
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Senior players are playing
Senior players are playing for cash not the team, they know they won't win a flag in their time now so why break your balls...
Agree Jack, keep the coach ( sounds like it will cost them a fuck load to get rid of him anyway ), see out another year or two then go for a big name coach....
If they could get a bloke like woosha or even McKenna then you could move on simo but in my opinion there isn't any point.
Next year will be worse!
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Pointsbet offering new
Pointsbet offering new customers $4 for Saints to win...
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Whats the conditions frosty
Whats the conditions frosty ?...put me fkn house on that.
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Yeah I'd take that even if
Yeah I'd take that even if it's limited.
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Freind of mine who's closely
Freind of mine who's closely in the know regarding the Appoimtement of Roger Cook for prem. Say that Sportsbet were offering $10 odds but a max bet of $28. Wankers lol
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$10 limit but still enough to
$10 limit but still enough to buy a pub meals with the total winnings
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Another great weekend of footy
Would've been better if the bombers had won
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Happy middle child...
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He would of been
Happy
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Boons full of shit....Eagles
Boons full of shit....Eagles rebuild complete. Premiership Contenders again.
West Coast 7 playing the longest sport / football section since the 2018 grand final...fk me they replayed half the game.
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Peddles(Scott)
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Certainly a better
Certainly a better performance against Ross the Toss yesterday. Nice to see a few goals by the under 20 crew.
Should be a good show in a few years.
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Yeah they looked way better
Yeah they looked way better mate. With one or two more experienced heads out there they probabl;y would have pulled it off. At least now they know they can be competitive. I'm sure those young guys enjoyed the feeling yesterday a lot more, even though they fell short.
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Apparently the big difference
Apparently the big difference was there more experienced guys turned up.
So swoomper...given they show up for work on a 1 week on 4 week off roster we would need to see if it aligns with the derby...I'm sure the first few quarters will cover the gate fee for there supporters.
On that note was good to see them showing up in force...last week there was talks of boycotting games..
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And your superstar part
And your superstar part timer breaking down and as much use as nic nat this year will you make the finals Brock O or just doing your usual making up the numbers.....
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Happy to put money on them
Happy to put money on them Not making the finals. Nothing's changed there.
Had to give him another crack...big body taking a key opposite away, big loss really, and that showed last quarter.
Doggies are a big side.
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Was a ripper game to be at
Was a ripper game to be at (despite the loss) especially to be right where Long slotted his banana from. Thankfully a few free seats around us and the Mrs and my daughter were able to join myself my Saints supporting son and brother in law.
Elijah Hewett is starting to show a few tricks now with a couple of games in a row under his belt and having Cripps back gives us that high half forward option and a better forward line structure but geez, Darling remains out of form! Bailey Williams continues to develop nicely and our disposal in general was 100x better yesterday and I just about fainted when Gaff put his head over the ball. I can't remember who Ginbey hit up in the forward line with a bullet but it's something we've been sorely missing and makes footy seem to easy when you're doing that.
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Jesus's I must be slow
Picking Darcy and his super hero's!
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Hot and cold at moment
Hot and cold at moment uncle. No finals for Freo this year.
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Melbourne currently looking
Melbourne currently looking at picks 5, 15 and 23 in the draft
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Pies in Melbourne
Next week
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Eh Frosty, You keep banging
Eh Frosty,
You keep banging on about the Eagles and the kids theyve fgot and how they have drafted the past two years.....
Frosty I'm not sure if you have noticed but the shit teams get better draft picks ( thats if you havent traded them out )....
Enlighten me who are these young guns the Eagles have on their list??
I'll remind you again, Ginbey was their first top ten pick since Gaff.....
I'll say it again, in my opinion every club in the comp has a better ( I'm not talking about kids that make up the numbers I'm talking about future B+ or A graders that will play week in week out ) crop of kids than the Eagles do!!
The Eagles will trade away no.1 because they know Reid wont come and if he does he'll fuck off after a year or two of mediocrity!!
Keep Simo, trade their picks to get more higher end picks and target every decent WA kid in the league so after a twenty goal beating he can go home and nestle his tired little head in his mothers bosoms and weep himself to sleep....
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Read your two comments below
Read your two comments below really slowwwwwwly then tell me how a team that finished in the bottom 10 once from 2010 to 2022 could have a crop of top 10 draft picks? We did finish 13th in 2013 and traded out our pick 6 for pick 11 and 2nd round pick which we ended up using to draft Sheed and Yeo which kinda won us a flag.
Frosty I'm not sure if you have noticed but the shit teams get better draft picks ( thats if you havent traded them out )....
I'll remind you again, Ginbey was their first top ten pick since Gaff....
Have a few more Coopers tonight and have another crack at it/me without completely contradicting yourself maybe?
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No contradiction there mate,
No contradiction there mate, Ginbey was their first top ten since Gaff, ladder position doesn't mean you can't pick swap etc etc ( surely you know this ).....
They let Van Rooyen and Johnston go and went Chesser!!
They have been fucking woeful in the draft!!
"Contrary to popular opinion we actually have hit the draft pretty heavy in the previous two years and I expect we’ll do the same again this year and look to bring in some top end talent via trade/free agency in 2024. At the moment we are being forced into playing kids who aren't quite ready for AFL or at least not ready to carry the loads they've had to due to senior players being injured but that is no excuse for the weekend where we had Shuey, Yeo, Gaff, Kelly and Sheed all rolling through the midfield."
Thats your comment above and thats what made me question who were the decent kids ( which you didnt answer! )
It would be a drawn out excersize but I could give you 3 youngsters from EVERY team that are every bit as good and most better than the very very few the Eagles have....
Enlighten me who these top end free agents are that will come to the Eagles?? I'll tell you who, blokes that want a massive pay packet, exactly what they don't need....
I'm hearing Barrass to Sydney next year?
I think Oscar Allen could also be tempted out to a Collingwood or someone in the premiership window, lets watch this space shall we...
Nice little barb too Frosty, but its a school night mate, no Coopers for me
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Both the club and West Coast
Both the club and West Coast supporters accept that we made a mess of trying to pinch another flag by hanging onto older, injury prone players are are looking forward. Bottom feeders like Caro, Cornes, Barrett et al can rejoice as much as they like in the meantime harping on about things that can't be changed. I actually take all the boot laying as a compliment and testament to our sustained success over the years.
Chesser... I wasn't convinced then and remain unconvinced as he's still a deer in the headlights at AFL level but you've singled out the one kid who hasn't had a decent run at putting a bunch of his 8 games together due to smashing his ankle and then hurting his knee.
Of the current crop of kids I think may be around long term: your mate Chesser, Long, Bazzo, Hough, Ginbey, Hewett, Culley, Williams. Maric def has a good footy smarts and skill for AFL level but still very much raw, young and skinny and only being played out of pure necessity and will benefit from an AFL pre-season. Letting Nic Martin go from right under our noses was a grave error in our list management going forward.
Most, if not all of the above I'd take before Karl Amon aka Diet Andrew Gaff.
I hear Brockman wants out of Hawks so perhaps pick 3, Brockman and DGB for pick 1 might be on the cards seeing as Hawks are supposedly bursting at the seams with young top tier talent despite being three wins above the worst team in AFL history....
I think we'll go hard at Devon Robertson for a pick somewhere in the 20's this year and see what we can do to land Georgidies and next year will target English and Baker who are yet to sign extensions. I can't see Norton being enticed but I reckon we've got one eye on McDonald as well and I wouldn't mind a crack at Ash Johnson. Whether they all want to leave is a completely different topic altogether. Barrass and Oscar are both contracted and going nowhere and I'd be happy to see what you'd be happy to put on them leaving... you don't trade away your spine (unless you're forced to) and if we take them both out of our side we can start considering 200+ point losses a given.
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Oh and by the way I'm not
Oh and by the way I'm not saying in time Chesser won't be half decent but right now he's a long way behind the two WA lads, Van Rooyen and Johnston....
You'd have your fwd line sorted with Darling, VR and Allen......
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Bottom feeders like caro
Bottom feeders like caro cornes and Barrett?
Is that because they don't bow down to the Western Australian WC supporters bias bs....
Only 3 wins above the worst team in history, what does that even mean? WC have won 3 faves in two years, you'll be lucky to win another in the next two. Hawks have an agenda and they are sticking to it, we will certainly flail around the lower end for a couple of years before the large number of very good younger kids get games into them then hopefully it's prolonged success.
Contracts mean fuck all now, WC would look absolutely foolish if they didn't allow Barrass to leave should he want to and loses interest in AFL rolling up week in week out putting up with utter tripe.
Good luck getting free agents, be careful not to pay overs, WC need a few good news stories....
Perhaps you'd be a good front man, you seem pretty good at polishing a turd.... Xo
Oh and yep, I'm hearing same thing Brockman ( good player ) DGB ( not getting a game but will fit in well at WC for Harley Reid.... Fucking boom....
Generational player, it's a damn shame he won't be in blue n gold eh...
Fuck the Freo supporters and Pies supporters must love this shit....
I have no bone in this and until you start waffling bullshit I stick to either my general opinion from an outsider looking in or what I hear probably listening to far too much sports talk, and you my friend seem to be slowly allowing reality to creep in but for now, keep on polishing!!
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Good chat
Good chat
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Freo supporters have their
Freo supporters have their own shit to contemplate atm lol
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Dont change the subject
Dont change the subject Andy...stay on topic.
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But it hurts pappy
But it hurts pappy
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Lol, some of my fav humans
Lol, some of my fav humans here...
Brock
Andy
Frosty....
You are good fellas that are half the reason I keep coming back to this website....
How good am I for keeping frosty quiet with his reply!?!?
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Yeah, your footy noise and
Yeah, your footy noise and insight was too much for me to handle.... pretty impressive for someone that never played the game
You should have your own thread and we can call it Booncano or Tim's Arrow.
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Eh frosty, Thursdays aren't
Eh frosty, Thursdays aren't a school night, having a few tonight
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Green or Red?
Green or Red?
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Eha, Mad How's your weekend
Eha, Mad
How's your weekend tracking?
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Junior footy club event
Junior footy club event tonight that I need to take my daughter to.
My gym session then junior bball and swimming tomorrow for my oldest two. Got one eye on a late arvo fish.
2x footy games Sunday morning for my youngest two. Gotta umpire Y3/4 girls and am runner for the Y5 boys as there's only 2-3 parents who ever put their hand up to volunteer.
Then round off the weekend torturing myself by tuning into the footy with the weight of false hope of a sneaky win.
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Few Darks at golf, few
Few Darks at golf, few Greens after....
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Freo are cooked...after
Freo are cooked...after losing a few players last season getting reset was slow at best.
Few injuries, new young players plus the existing still to develop, not replacing Darcey with another ruck man has not helped.
Expecting a west coast score line against the Pies this week, and reading more of Uncles piss dribble straight after.
Next season..
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Won't even get decent draft
Won't even get decent draft picks as they traded out their first and second rounders to Melbourne for a bloke that can ruck a bit, go forward a bit but isn't top 15-20 in either position. Freo thought they were getting Jacques Kallis but it's looking like they've ended up with Shane Watson.
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Funny comment Jack, talk is
Funny comment Jack, talk is the bloke goes alright. Fair to say we can live a few seasons with out drafts pics ?
Regardless, when Darcy was out they should have brought another ruck in and left Jackson in his same role.
Uncle...if we win...Flagmantle again...lol.
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I was pretty happy with that
I was pretty happy with that one
He actually goes alright for a 21y old. Still another 3-5 years before he hits the supposed avg peak age for a big man. West Coast stalled Oscar's development by playing him all over the shop and looks like Jackson is stuck in the same situation.
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Leaving the
Piss dribble to you this week brocko
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And what will you do
If you do win, ha ha
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Call an ambulance because
Call an ambulance because freo fans will all have a heart attack in disbelief.....Ramping will be shockering down Perth way
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Gaff dropped (finally but is
Gaff dropped (finally but is still sub), Grundy dropped and Lobb dropped... that's the best part of $2m sitting on the pine.
West Coast might even be worth a sneaky punt without Gaff Boon.
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With Gaff on the bench does
With Gaff on the bench does that mean the players will kick towards their own goal for a change. One can only hope.
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Even kicking to our own
Even kicking to our own players will be a win. Got to see some faith with Hough starting on the wing
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I know this thread is about the AFL
But I have something to smile about atm with the mighty Royals knocking off Claremont today and now sitting on their rightful throne on top of the WAFL ladder now
A pity Collingwood couldn't really get the job done on the floggers this weekend and give them the beating they really deserved lol.
Can we say that the Eagles are improving by not losing by 100 plus points now? I hope so!
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On track to win their first
On track to win their first legit flag since 1978
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Now don't start that again
Now don't start that again with my beloved Royals. It's a shame now that Cable has destroyed part of my childhood legacy, I idolised him as a kid FFS.
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Lol
Touche Frosty
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I hate the royals but my
I hate the royals but my wife is a closset supporter so I won't say much
. Freo may as well start tanking and the junior eagles are getting a bit of support finally
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Let's see how they
go against the blues then
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I've been out of circulation
I've been out of circulation for 10 days or so but got some laughs catching up on the comments above!
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As expected, Harley Reid has
As expected, Harley Reid has told the Eagles he's not coming West.
While I don't blame him, if the Eagles want him and they select him and he knocks them back then perhaps he should be forced to wait another year and hope it's not the same club again...
You can't have the tail wagging the dog...
Probably unlikely WC would've selected him anyway as they need to pick split. I guess the question now is, does this water down pick One that at this stage the Eagles have a firm grip on?
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Once a player nominates for
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Smart boy
I reackon, otherwise another Horne Francis.
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The same approach didn't work
The same approach didn't work out well for Buckley. Could have been a 3x premiership player
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I agree with Boon and Unc.
I agree with Boon and Unc. Although WCE have been quick to deny what Reid has supposedly said, there is no point drafting a player that will almost certainly leave once you put some time and effort into him. Boon is rigtht that this waters down the value of pick one in these circumstances unless you trade the pick.
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Reckon they trade it Dave,
Reckon they trade it Dave, but we need a savvy selector who can spot the talent down the line. Jesus they did it so well in the late 80's early 90's.
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Agreed Andy. A good mate
Agreed Andy. A good mate that was involved back then selected Juddy as his first recruit in a full time role! He worked out okay I guess.
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Need a Dennis hine
Can't believe the guys the pies picked up for this year
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Just saw it was Sam
Just saw it was Sam McClueless who broke the Reid won't come west story. LOL
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
uncle
Posts: 9474
Date Joined: 10/02/07
Ohh what a comeback
6 out of 6 tips ha ha
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
uncle
Posts: 9474
Date Joined: 10/02/07
Not much chatter this weekend
Big changes in the 8, picked the 9 winners,happy with that
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
davewillo
Posts: 2398
Date Joined: 08/09/16
Yep I got the 9 too Unc.
Yep I got the 9 too Unc. Only 1 off the lead now with 5 rounds to go. I was 7 off at one stage!
PGFC member and lure tragic
carnarvonite
Posts: 8667
Date Joined: 24/07/07
Got 8
I got 8 to bring tally up to 118, 9 adrift of the leader on the Game competition.