Sometimes we all get pissed off. What do we do about it?
Recently I was trolling through the Brag Board as usual and once again I saw a photo that made my blood boil, really boil.
In this case it was of another dude showing off (Brag Board POTM I couldn't believe he wanted that!) another speared big Blue Grouper, hooka in the background.
I made a rare post that dared to say something deemed as negative and asked for a bit of a reply on the circumstances of the catch.
WOW!!!
Once again did I kick a hornet nest.
Most replies were to the effect of "How Dare You?" "He did nothing wrong!" "How can you comment you don't know shit" etc.
The reponse from the guy in shot was such a flippent careless reply that I realised he had no clue what I was on about and I just couldn't let it go. Just how many blokes look at this post and have no clue either I thought. Turns out HEAPS was the answer.
I'm simply astounded that so many of the site members only send in the typical "top fish" to those posting, nothing further. If it stirs you enough to make a post it can be with thought cant it? It all just becomes meaningless. So you have 500 posts? If they are all the same ego boost to all you post too then really, who cares?
As I saw the posts coming in both good and bad I couldn't help but wonder if I had done something wrong. Even Adam was dragged in and to my surprise his comment of "this old chesnut again" was at the top.
Ok so your over anyone bringing up a topic you've seen before? Sorry Mr G but without continued discussion of some practises out there we participate in, legal or not we don't get a set of laws, guidelines or just plain fishing morals that allow us all to continue to do what we love.
So for me when I see a great fish or outstanding catch I'll post my back pat with some feeling.
Just as when l let the dude that wants the same from a catch that is TO ME just plain wrong the next time I see one, I'd like to think I can let him know how I feel as well.
For me this site is fantastic for seeing whats going on throughout WA and some of you guys make some amazing catches. Take your pats on the back with glee. At the same time if and when someone gets pissed off about your post take on board the comment, have a little think and THEN reply if you think it's warranted.
Beware, to all who question a post. There are some super touchy guys who don't like being called out on anything but you will quickly find out though if they have any idea or not. So have the balls I urge you to pat the good shot on the back and speak your mind on the ones that shit you.
If you want POTM be willing to take a negative post as well, could be educational for you.
In the case in question here, the to and fro left me with but one conclusion. The guy had absolutly no idea of the species lifespan, ease of expliotation and lack of sporting effort, OR he is a guy who simply doesn't give shit about those things.
Both options to me are no excuse to do it. Legal or not.
The east coast saw this specie's variant all but wiped out by dickhead spearo's and that stigma sticks to all us spearo's weather we are aware or not. We get to choose the fish we spear unlike the more random practise of rod and reel, so a big blue, an undersize fish or an over-size cod is just not acceptable behavior to me.
We dont need to hide behide legality to know something is just not on do we?? Come on lads.
So go on and call me whatever you like and tell me I'm an opinionated wanker. I dont give one flying toss about that. When I see some Knob doing the like next time, I'll ask the same of them as I did with this bloke.
Then Maybe just Maybe some of you who may have thought nothing of it will stay your trigger and show your kids a photo of a live one as it feeds from your hand instead.
Thanks too to constructive critisism of me and the offering up of good ideas from some of the posters, keep that stuff up too.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
tangles
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onya
onya SQUIDDLY. Know what you mean. Same with big dhuis. Breeders that support the future stocks and there is a club that will try and get that !! Magic 20kg!! I get pysically sick when I see a big black like that slayed and even more if its a big female!
So I dont comment on it as I know the backlash that comes with it. ppl need to understand the breeding cycle of species and the impacts they have on these fish. And this applies to commercial wetliners and charter operators who ive been apart of but thats a different drama.
Yet if someone kills a marlin oh shit yr in trouble?? Well I can say if I catch a marlin between 50-100kg ill be keeping it for food!
No one dared had a go at the so called self proclamed grand poobah of game fishing whitey for slaying a marlin n dumping the carcass in the river here.
Dispicapble and shit call thats what that was but he is a law unto his own!!
Chin up SQUIDDLY no complaints from me on yr comments mate!
Jackfrost80
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So you made a post to talk
So you made a post to talk about the discussion in another post?
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
sea-kem
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No oppinion from me as yet
No oppinion from me as yet but dayum I'm gonna need a big bag of popcorn.
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scottland
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This should get interesting
nice post... Oh wait
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
dumper
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It's ironic, but there's
It's ironic, but there's some guys that have put a tonne of effort into fishermans rights, that have been chased off forums with pitchforks for stepping up and speaking their minds
SQUIDDLY
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Sorry man but I'm truly not sure of your meaning.
Ok Dumper Think you mean that Greenie's and the like have squealed so much that we have the toughest fishing laws in Australia. Guys who push against that tide are YES shot down in burning flames.
I am in no way in favour of some of the retrictions we have in this state Esp the Mid West region and the laws we troll through just to try to be sure we've broken none. So it's true that the same can be said for the bloke that stands up for his right to go out and catch a decent feed has the right to be pissed off as well.
It's the middle ground we all need to find between doing the simply dump and uneducated things that get the Anti lobby going and the reasonable requests and practises that both sustain and entertain us fishing and spearing lovers.
As I said in the post that triggered this forum topic (Yes Jack it was triggered by another seperate set of posts it was suggested I P%$s off from) as a fishing community we have a huge influence on where the rules go.
We allow recless Wally's to do anything they like and we will see more and more restrictions and more things banned.
Don't be squealing too hard if they deem spearing any fish at all on scuba or much less bloody hooka's when shots like that one get flogged around as a top job!!
If thats what you meant man I'm behind you, if we are all sensible with our fishing we will see the loosening of some of these laws I hope and pray.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
dodgy
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Does anyone know where the love of god goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
uncle
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We can all have our own opinion
I don't like to see fish held up on a gaff or big breeders killed but thats my opinion to which I am intitled to much rather see crays atm.
all aggressive fish love bigjohnsjigs
Bryce Day
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yep, y even shoot one! they
yep, y even shoot one! they follow you around like your pet dog all day! then go and blast it with a spear gun WOOHOO..... not!
However its not illegal to shoot one! and im screwed if they make winches illegal!
crano
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groper
Personally I have never shot a blue groper and never will [see quite a few] but I dont have a problem if someone else does.I dont see a lot of difference between his photo and
the photo of your big cod that was probably caught on an electric reel.
Not having a crack at you just my opinion.
I dont think we will have adam intervening in this thread as I just heard he is going to the monties on friday.
RobertMc
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lol, everyone is entitled to
lol, everyone is entitled to their own opinion at the end of the day, exactly as he has the right to pull the trigger if he wants, i think you need to get over it and worry about what your catching and not everyone Else....
tadpole
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Dale
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It also saddens me to see fish like a big blue grouper or similar held up on end of a spear like a trophy. But I don't get too bothered about something I can't do anything about, that's how I roll these days.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf
SQUIDDLY
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Spot on Crano
You are quite correct.
That cod WAS INDEED caught on a little electric reel.
As I know this will be a factor that comes up quite a bit I'll get it out of the way now (I hope, but feel free to rip me still if you like).
Was taken on 50Lb line in 80m looking for Reds. At no time was it even an option to crank up such a fish via the electric option nor do I use it for that purpose. It was pump and wind all the way and you bet it was a thrill at first but a crying shame as after all our efforts we could not get it back down or revive it.
Was dead at the boat.
Now the photos were taken then and that was that.
See, there is a huge distiction here. At no time was there a target or even a contemplation of it's capture. With the rod and reel we have always some degree of lucky or unlucky dip.
We all get sharked yes? Do we plan it? No.
I also feel the need to explain that catch and will always, as it is such a bloody shame to see that beast dead. Diving is so different.
Dont think for a moment I would rigg up and attempt a capure of such a beast if I saw it first or even knew it was there.
My Avitar will not help my point at all but well I'm stuck with it now.
And don't feel the need to say your not having a go at me, thats part of my point as well. It's a valid arguement mate so no problem with me if you did.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
petermac
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personaly think
just my opinion but don't think anyone should be able to shoot fish on air , free diving only in my opinion and that goes for crays too
Rob H
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Maybe provide a reason for
Maybe provide a reason for that?
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
RobertMc
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probably because he is to
probably because he is to scared to get in the water and is sick and tired of seeing divers clean up on the crays for the first month of every year and his pots wont catch shit.... hahahahaha
Rob H
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maybe
Maybe
some say "cos its too easy" but so what?
If there is plenty of crays so what, should it only be for superfit people?
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
tim-o
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Bahaha
Demersal ban, no different to every other year, everyone gets a bit cranky over nuthin. Chill Squiddly and co, less than a month to go!
I am, as I've said, merely competent. But in an age of incompetence, that makes me extraordinary.
Stevo81
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Food for thought
Either way Squiddly you've problably got a few people thinking about something that maybe they havent done before....
That's a win in my book.
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crano
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What does LBS=KGS mean ?
What does LBS=KGS mean ?
SQUIDDLY
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Lbs=Kgs?
Man just a little stab at the Bunbury lads. As I come from Geraldton it's kind of a must do.
Seems many of us have a serious affliction to just take a stab at the weight of a fish and it often seems very unrealistic.
Some claims are so outlandish that that was the actual reason I got onto this site. One dude claiming a 'MY 30+kg coral bay cod" in photo comp of all things.
Mates told me about it between huge fits of laughter at the poor lads expence and so I had a look. Dude holding one handed by the line a lovely little Estuary Cod. Well I wont make a call on the weight have a look at the shot and see for yourself.
Anyway so it's kind of a thing with us now. Goes like this//
Didn't measure it? Dont claim a length.
Didn't weight it? Dont claim a weight.
Simple really.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
Shark1
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is it illegal No
is it illegal No
would i Condone it- No
would i do it -No
would i say anything about it- no i dont know the blokes situation he might be feeding 12 kids
i dont keep any dhu s or blue groper and i dont like people targetting dhu s
but ohhh stay far away mr pink snapper i will kill kill kill
as long as its legal who are u to point fingers
and while we at it why do u use a "small electric" in the 80s ? they must be the most uncomfortable things to wind, why do u even have an electric?
and u dont have to try to defend it - i just dont agree with electrics - but thats my problem
Madmerv
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Ok Squiddly
I read your previous posts and thought Wow this guy has a pretty strong opinion on the subject. Some people agreed and some did not.
I respect your opinion and even somewhat agree with it. I do also respect others opinions and their right to have them.
If someone is fishing/spearing within the law and they post the photo on this forum then that is their right and if you have an opinion of that photo and are prepared to take the critisism then that is also your right.
Personally i love seeing peoples PB's being posted as i know that sometimes it takes many years of dedication to get that fish. Killing it or releasing it is entirely up to them.
Educating people is good as i believe that helps a lot but slagging someone for being uneducated, or because you think they are uneducated, just paints yourself in a bad light. Matt may or may not know how long they live and he may or may not care. He saw a cracker of a fish, took his shot, took photo's and then ate it. All done within WA laws and within his personal moral compass. Good on him.
Your educational speel and much less your opinion is what will help Matt decide wheather he does it again.
Oh and Tangles: 20kg Dhu is bucket list fish. To release or keep will depend on the condition of the fish but i'm fishing lighter and lighter these days so i can release more.
Sometimes when the water is quiet, you can hear the fish laughing at you !
Ashen
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Good "speech"!!
Good "speech"!!
A fish in the hand is worth 10 in the water!
SQUIDDLY
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Good On You.
Your post is exactly the sort of discussion I wanted and hoped to see.
Good points and a level head Grats.
Thanks for that truely, your the sort of response that will get more people thinking and THAT is always beneficial.
We don't fully agree. So what? It's a forum isn't it. Will all of you see my post as correct/good stuff? Shit no, but that was never my intention.
Thanks for taking the time to post Merv
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
sea-kem
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Yep well said mad merv and
Yep well said mad merv and yep I can't wait/hope to join the 20kg club. And I will keep it, as you said and I fish very light these days to give em a chance. I've been bagged on here before because of capture and release of Dhuies and as far as I'm concerened if you don't like it then tough shit. I fish within the law, obey the law and take what I can within the law. Matt was well within his rights to shoot that fish so good on him, hope he enjoyed it.
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Scotte
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Take a deep breath champion!
Take a deep breath champion! !
scottland
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Sooo
"I'm simply astounded that so many of the site members only send in the typical "top fish" to those posting, nothing further. If it stirs you enough to make a post it can be with thought cant it? It all just becomes meaningless. So you have 500 posts? If they are all the same ego boost to all you post too then really, who cares?"
Were you hugged as a child?
Why does positive feedback offend you so much?
i support two teams eagles and whoever is playing the dockers
sandbar
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while we"re at it
if you see me with a tyre strapped to my roo bar its because i dont want to damage it the next time some small brained turd pulls out in front of me. I will NOT apply the brakes
again!
3 f**King times yesterday in 5 mins. Then they turn off 5oo mtrs later!
Oh, and to answer the question of the title of your thread, we vent on a public forum
rob90
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"Top post" squiddly
"Top post" squiddly
Hi my name is rob............. and I'm a........... fishaholic
crano
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pounds kilos
Now I am upset.
Im from bunbury.
SQUIDDLY
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Bummer crano
And here is was thinking I could like you too damn it!
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
Boydy
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Why
I don't understand why it had to start with the continuation of a character assassination from a previous post.
What was Matt's last comment in the previous post on the matter.....
I have no idea what his thoughts were by asking for the posts to be removed, but I'm sure the continued bashing in this post is not all that constructive.
As Merv has said, education and discussion get a point across far more effectively than straight out shit canning.
Rob H
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Not sure if ive got this
Not sure if ive got this wrong but...
Your upset with people because they disagreed with your post, which was about your right to disagree with someone elses post...
Give a man a mask, and he'll show you his true face...
The older you get the more you realize that no one has a f++king clue what they're doing.
Everyone's just winging it.
Jackfrost80
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Must be pretty lonely all the
Must be pretty lonely all the way up there on that horse
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Adam Gallash
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lol
+1
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scotto
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all good.
No (read: nil, zero, nada, none) rules/laws broken. At all.
Governed by: fisheries, DPAW, state and federal government.
He took a legal fish, by legal means, in a legal area, which was within his legal limit, on his legal fishing license, all decided in conjunction with all (and more) parties above, to be legal. But hes an asshole for doing it?
Ive pulled the trigger on many blues. And until im not allowed, i will continue to do so. I have seen how many there are (especially in the area the "culprit" landed his fish), and personally back the rules fisheries enforce regarding them.
Hate the game chief, not the players.
SQUIDDLY
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Hey Scotto.
Ok so what you have done is look at the post, read all comments, had a think and made a calm reasoned response.
Thanks.
No problem with anyone doing that. All you said was perfectly correct.
I choose to disagree with your thoughts on Blues but that is my call and yours is yours.
Just as is the intent of this post, getting your type of input is HEALTHY.
This post would not have been here if not for the Unreasoned idiotic response of the dude in question.
If you all read my input I would have been quite staisfied (though yes still unhappy) with a response like yours Scotto. Even tried to help him with an example that a guy more like yourself could or would have wrote.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
sea-kem
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Geeez you are easily upset.
Geeez you are easily upset. I thought his (Matt's) response had a bit of humour and sarcasm. You've taken it upon yourself to make a mountain out of a molehill. Just wondering have you actually posted areport on this site yet or are you here just for arguments sake? I deffinitely don't agree with a lots of comments on here and even some of my friends comments, but don't make a 5 page essay crying that someone responded to you with a bit of cheek. It's the type of all guns balzing response you would expect from ISIS
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grantarctic1
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Have to agree
Have to agree with you Andy, I didn't want to comment because I thought it was just one big trolling rant from a member who never really contributes anyway.
Have also been surprised by some comments.
Personally I don't like to see certain types of fish taken, but choose not to comment, especially when the member has not broken any laws.
And I think I have had my fill of popcorn for the week.
Is the ban over yet ?
sea-kem
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Lol on the downward run
Lol on the downward run Grant. At least I get to wet the boat this weekend and drop the pots. We have a new boat winch and I've just fabricated a new filleting shack for up there too. Will post some pics when I get a chance. The winch is a little slower than the old one but will pull a battle tank out of the drink.
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Adam Gallash
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isis
Was wondering how long it would take until ISIS got a mention. Lol
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scotto
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@sqiddly
Thought about this straight, cant see your point. Had a few whiskeys, still cant see your point. Just about to set up a bucket....
I read the OP, and not only did he wind you up,he wound you THE FUCK UP,and you fell for it big time.
Try it this way:
BLOKE A - "hey guys, i drive to work today, didnt go over the speed limit the whole way. Earnt my pay, and paid my taxes. Didnt murder anyone, and smoked my cigarettes outside. Didnt have a beer until i got home, so as not to drink drive. Ate my dinner, and fucked my hot wife. Heres a photo of my hot wife".
BLOKE B - "you arrogant unreasoned idiotic fuck, I cant beleive you fucked your own wife".
BLOKE A - "Ummmm, yeah, my wife is hot as fark! Shes a trophy! Dont reckon ill ever do better!"
BLOKE B - "i am so gonna write a pointless post on how wrong this guy is for porkin his own wife".
sea-kem
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Ha ha ha love lateral
Ha ha ha love lateral thought......whiskey eh :P
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quest
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hahaha
Love it!
Boydy
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Scotto you sure you didn't
Hahaha Scotto you sure you didn't pull the chamber first!
Keep poking the squid and it will keep squirting shit every where.....
dano83
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Haha I wonder what ya
Haha I wonder what ya thought process woulda been like after the bucket!
Humpback
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SQUIDDLY
I like your post in that it may get people to think about there actions. Your right, your picture didnt help your case at all. (you can change it if your not proud of it) I witnessed 1st hand from my dad (87 now) who was from a different era and was providing for a family that had little or no money and would justify taking undersize cray, And didnt see a problem with taking an esky full of herring home. (can guarantee none was wasted)
We are all better educated these days and most of us especially i would suggest people on this site know all the rules and abide by so many rules that when a bloke posts a photo of a good fish for him that he may have had on his bucket list for a long time, and has finaly achieved his dream and within the rules he would expect a lot of good comments and fair enough.
IMO i dont think hes done anything wrong, it was his choice to make and within the rules.
Madmerv
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Different era
Like you i have an old man who was a keen fisherman. One of the photo's that he has i absolutley love. He was on Barrow island in the 60's and was one of the first people to dive off the west side. He has a photo of himself on the beach with a monster grouper that he speared. 150-200kg model. He has the biggest smile on his face that i think i have ever seen.
Now back then the mark of a man when it came to spearing was how big the fish was. All the guys were uneducated as to sustainability, life spans, etc. They were all in their early 20's. He looks at that photo now and laments the loss of such a majestic fish but i can still see the flush of pride he has at his once in a life time fish and probably the knowledge that he was the King on the island for a while. Different era.
I also have a photo of myself with a monster Blue grouper that i speared off two rocks many years ago. I show this to my kids with pride and shame mixed. It was a strange circumstance where i was swimming back to the boat with a half full bag of crays and fish when i saw some lips and an eye just behind some reef. I could see it was a blue and that it was pretty big so i lined it up. It poked it's head a bit further out and i shot a perfect brain shot. The fish went into the typical quiver and started to come into full view and i was shocked to see how big it really was. All the normal emotions of getting a monster fish went through me but i also was a bit saddened that i had killed the old man of the sea.
I have never speared another Blue grouper from that day on but then that is my choice.
Sometimes when the water is quiet, you can hear the fish laughing at you !
Willlo
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Hey squid i agree on yr
Hey squid i agree on yr point re diver's having a choice but not with yr comment about how people respond to a post. But that's just my opinion and they r just like arseholes, everyone has one eh.Tangles when i catch my 20 kg dhufish i won't post it lol not.
Edit Woops already did soz
Oh yeah squid I'm from bunno as well cob all my fish r weighed on electronic scales lol
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sea-kem
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Ha ha lolz right there
Ha ha lolz right there
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Notorious
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Classic speciesism Squiddly -
Classic speciesism Squiddly - why is the life of a Blue Groper more valuable than one of a Big Dhu, a Sea Sweep or a pilchard that was used as bait. Contradiction in my opinion. Why can commercial fisheries kill thousands of tones of fish and old mate cant take a big Blue on occasion to feed him and his family?
Dont talk about 'sporting effort' on a line fishing forum either - how is sitting in a boat, 20m+ above the bottom and dangling a baited hook over a concerted sporting effort? Its not.
Almost every Blue I have ever seen while spearing has bolted once it has seen me. Almost every Dhu, Baldie, and Breaksea has swum right up to me before getting plugged. But you dont see people getting upset about them getting shot.
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Bryce Day
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You must be a very lucky
You must be a very lucky spear fisherman to have so many good eating fish swim straight up to you before you spear them!
hooty
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Normally don't comment on
Normally don't comment on these type of pathetic posts but I've taken the bait(pun). After seeing screen shots on a regular basis of more fish than any one family could eat fresh, talk of 500-1000l eskys, auto pilot, transducers that are so big you don't have to cook the fish when landed, deck winches, electric reels and kryvac machines (I'm sure I've missed some), how you could even question how sporting or sustainable one bloke who jumps out of his boat and spears one fish, which he feeds his family with is beyond me. The topic started with one bloke catching a fish and freezing it for food, this upset another bloke who catches another fish who lets it sink to the bottom. LOL!
As or blues swimming up and eating your spear, not my experience either. All fish are different, some just want to be served up on a plate, regardless of species. I believe the blue that was caught was not one of the hand fed fish from a local swimming hole that people get so upset about.
Bryce Day
Posts: 812
Date Joined: 01/06/15
Hooked u as well ;)
Hooked u as well ;)
barracuda
Posts: 197
Date Joined: 01/09/13
Oh yeah
Love it, excemplary retort notorious
Notorious
Posts: 914
Date Joined: 23/02/12
Thanks - common sense is not
Thanks - common sense is not all that common :)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/174055815943047/?fref=nf
tadpole
Posts: 387
Date Joined: 28/01/13
Sometimes we all get pissed
Sometimes we all get pissed off. What do we do about it?
Not slag people off on a public forum for showing off their catch for starters. Voice your opinion for sure, but to keep keyboard bashing him and then starting another post expressing your displeasure might be a time to "get over it". He was proud of his catch, and wanted to show us. Good on him I say
z00m
Posts: 1086
Date Joined: 10/05/14
Misguided
You have every right to your opinion and your feelings about certain catches are your own.
But don't complain to the guy that, by following the rules, achieved something he has wanted to do.
The only place for your complaint and well worded posts is to the government as they are the ones that set the rules.
I for one often see posts of captures or quantities that I think are against what I would do myself but I don't post on those posts as I know the people are following the limits set that should promote sustainability. If my blood was 'really boiling' I'd fire off a letter to the fisheries minister - not to the poster of the legal activity.
tadpole
Posts: 387
Date Joined: 28/01/13
+1
+1
Swompa
Posts: 3786
Date Joined: 14/10/12
This may have already been
This may have already been mentioned and I am sure most people agree, the thing that shits me the most is a photo of a dead fish on a bench with the question 'what is it?"
If I don't know what a fish is, I generally assume that it is a crap and throw it back.
One fishing charter I did up north I kept putting Mangrove Jacks back, just assuming they were crap. I wondered why the charter operator kept wanting photos of my large, crappers.
Auslobster
Posts: 1901
Date Joined: 03/05/08
Not supposed to mention that anymore...
...Adam put the brakes on people responding negatively to "dead fish ID" pics/posts!
End of the day, all you have to do is go back through some of Squiddly's previous posts regarding fish weight estimations to realise how pedantic and anal he can be....
little johnny
Posts: 5332
Date Joined: 04/12/11
lol
Didn't see to many tears with big dead cod. Just smiles. No regrets by the looks. Shot down in 1 shot. Picture says a thousand words. If there was a tissue box in picture . That would be different story. :):). Just taking the piss:):). Happy hunting
Bryce Day
Posts: 812
Date Joined: 01/06/15
wile you can go around
wile you can go around spearing fish willy nilly not knowing what they are, and then posting it on here is not the best idea you've ever had as it shows a complete lack of respect to the fishing environment.
C.P
Posts: 345
Date Joined: 04/01/12
Summary
I think I can summarise this.
1) We should all carry out our fishing activitys in accordance with the law.
2) We each have our own set of values. We should always act in accordance with our own values
but not assign our values to other people.
3) Other people have their values. They should always act in accordance with their values
but not assign their values to us.
4) We are grateful that what pisses us off is a few dead fish & we humby acknowledge that the people
of France are pissed off about a great many dead people. We appologise if our rantings have
offended them.
Does that cover it?
Lamby
Posts: 3145
Date Joined: 04/08/09
Nothing like the demersal ban
Nothing like the demersal ban to bring out our inner frustrations, I am not going to delve into this one other than point out I see the argument for both sides. Phuck it boys, fair bump play on? Or continue to complain about sand in your vertical taco's, countdown to the 15th...
Scotte
Posts: 1142
Date Joined: 07/12/06
The sad thing is this type
The sad thing is this type of rubbish post gets more attention and comments than a genuine good fish or photo.seems people prefer to bicker
SQUIDDLY
Posts: 48
Date Joined: 22/12/13
Ahhhhhhh
Just exhaled mate.
Too true buddy and probs the last comment i'll be here for.
Closure over soon thank crap. Been an interesting ride this one I tell Ya!!
Thanks to all posts good bad and indifferant.
Love to fish love to spear, have a set of guidelines of my own that differ from many.
Said my bit got pats and rips even got some roundabout tips.
See some more shots soon on this site please don't post more photo's of shite.
Some of you hate me some berate me
I truely dont care either way.
Just let me say this you Blue raping tits..............
Don't cry when the fisheries take them away.
Good luck to all when we hit the water again lads.
PS//
Not you Matt, Hee Hee.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
PEEL 166
Posts: 83
Date Joined: 19/04/09
nice pic of ya cod !!
Held up so proud by the gills for a proud photo you use as your avatar pic !! do you think that could have helped it die ?? What a HYPOCRITE ! & a cyber bully you turned out to be !!!
Bryce Day
Posts: 812
Date Joined: 01/06/15
Sounds like we are all just
Sounds like we are all just as bad ;)
MandurahMatt
Posts: 613
Date Joined: 18/09/13
Go home Dave your drunk
Go home Dave your drunk lol.
Bewdey Fellaz
Baydreamer
Posts: 11
Date Joined: 06/08/14
Key board worriers
you will also find these key board hero's shit themselves and run like a rabbit when confronted face to face with a "please explain"
PEEL 166
Posts: 83
Date Joined: 19/04/09
blahaha
I worked in the northern prawn fisheries for years right over the top end to weepa seen more big dead kegs of cod go to waste than any one should see & so many other big beastys dumped from the deck !!
SQUIDDLY
Posts: 48
Date Joined: 22/12/13
Too Hard now eh lads?
Sorry Peel buddy this post is getting a little long to fully inform yourself by reading it all.
Ho hum.
Love all this Keyboard Warrior stuff too.
Just what the F&%K do you do then, send in your finger paintings?
Tell Ya what, I know!
SEE ABOVE FOR MORE INFORMATION.
Also check out the popcorn and beers Post.
Cheers all.
Remember, in Bunbury;
LBS=KGS and never actually weigh your fish.
Just guess away!!!!
MandurahMatt
Posts: 613
Date Joined: 18/09/13
Give it a rest champ. Lets
Give it a rest champ. Lets look at the facts of your history on this forum. You have made 2 posts of your own in the year or so you have joined.
The first was of you acting somewhat proud holding up a dead protected species that you caught on an electric reel.
Your second post this one, is a sook about me posting a picture of a fish that i captured by choice that is not protected and i broke no laws doing so, but it was your un-scientificly proven opinion that this fish holds the key to survival of the species as we know it, so you set about making a personal attack on my ethics and character, and have not relented in your pathetic attempts to justify yourself every night for nearly a week now.
In this post you basically described everyone on this forum who has ever posted a picture of their catch as being a bunch of show pony egomaniacs. Interesting way to win friends and influence people.
You are now telling every guy who has had a few beers & read this post that has taken offence to your actions and made a comment contrary to your opinion that they are a key board warrior.
"Good effort" i look forward to your next post & what other insites you have to offer in the future.
Bewdey Fellaz
sea-kem
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Date Joined: 30/11/09
Love the West!
Pitty
Posts: 161
Date Joined: 08/12/12
UBIQUE
Jackfrost80
Posts: 8051
Date Joined: 07/05/12
Well I have been pissed off
Well I have been pissed off all day.
You see my mum has been diagnosed with breast cancer and had an operation last week to remove the tumour and part of her lymph node and now has to go through 6 months of chemo and radio. She got a call this morning saying that the pathologist stuffed up his report and the tumour is actually 50mm and not the 20mm he told the surgeon before the operation and now she has to go in for another operation for the same issue which should have been resolved in the now uneccessary operation last week.
What am I gonna do about it?
Well I want to head down to the hospital and cave the pathologist's head in but I am going to instead focus all my energy into supporting mum through this next operation and into the next 6 months and use the correct channels to make sure that she does not face any medical bills and is compensated for lost income.
Not as dire as someone spearing a Blue Groper but it's affecting me all the same.
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
MandurahMatt
Posts: 613
Date Joined: 18/09/13
Sorry to hear that mate its
Sorry to hear that mate its not easy when people you love are sick hope things get better for her.
Bewdey Fellaz
meglodon
Posts: 5981
Date Joined: 17/06/10
Fingers crossed hoping for a good out come
I hope things go well for your Mum Jackfrost80 and that when the dust clears all is good and well for your mum.
Jackfrost80
Posts: 8051
Date Joined: 07/05/12
Cheers guys, she's a strong
Cheers guys, she's a strong woman and when she weakens we'll all be there for her and when we weaken our family and friends will be there for us
Officially off the Pies bandwagon
Da pirate
Posts: 1521
Date Joined: 03/05/15
Geez !!
Geez can't believe I actually read that
whole post !! Squiddly I want my 25mins
back !! Blah blah !!!!
Da pirate
Posts: 1521
Date Joined: 03/05/15
Jack !!
I wish you and your family all the best and your mum
a speedy recovery !!! Da pirate !!
BlueKiaser
Posts: 422
Date Joined: 22/04/15
Bluewater Therapy
I find there's not much better than getting out on the deep blue and forgetting about life's troubles for a few hours.
I hope JackFrost80, emem (stolen Prado) and anybody else with current worries, soon get the opportunity for some Bluewater Therapy of their own.
Squiddly, much of what you have posted does little to add to the good feelings I get from others who are willing to share their greater moments on the Bluewater ... eg. an impressive Blue Grouper catch. I'm sure there are better ways to communicate your reasons for your issues with such a particular catch, without the need for the personal character judgements.
axey45
Posts: 1758
Date Joined: 26/11/13
Squiddly should be deleted
Squiddly should be deleted for pushing his opinion.
axey45
Posts: 1758
Date Joined: 26/11/13
Watery grave f34ker.
Watery grave f34ker.
Kal
Posts: 160
Date Joined: 30/04/07
This is a fishing forum, i
This is a fishing forum, i get on here to see what people are catching in the report section brag section, and if i see a big fish being held up, good on the fisho that caught it When i catch my 30kg dhuie i tell you what ,ill post the pic every where and you know the really f#*ked up thing is, i probley wont even eat any of it .After ive made a fibre glass mould of it to hang on my wall with my other trophys ,but each to their own, id still donate the fish to recfish for research . If you dont have any thing good to say just dont say it .As people will stop posting ,an then we will just be on here to give each other the shits ,BLOODY BAN NEED TO WET A LINE .
Dale
Posts: 7930
Date Joined: 13/09/05
Amen Kal, and good to see you again.
"Just because you are a Character, Doesn't mean you have Character."
Mr Wolf