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daiwa saltist 30

hi fellas new to this particular forum but i was just wondering what you think about the saltist range???

cheers

michael


40lb Braid

I've noticed most line manufacturers go from 30lb to 50lb, is there any that make 40lb line?? Is this the same as PE4?


bcf

just applied for a job at the bcf hopefully i get it :D fingers crossed


Back from Nornalup

Hi Guys,

I am back from Nornalup/Bow Bridge after a weekend of celebrating and fishing. I will put up a few photos up now and some stories later. I will also be in touch with all of you who have sent private messages as I had a very slow connection down south and was only able to check latest content.

I hope you all had a great long weekend,
Cheers,
Adam


Metro Salmon In October?

Mybe you won't believe me, but the lad went fishing this morning off the beach here in Mandurah...

He was chasing some whiting he had heard reports of.

When he got to the spot (not far from Bouvard Cut) he saw a school of salmon harrasing the whiting he was after...

So he nailed a couple - along wth the other guy who was fishing there.

I am used to THE SALMON RUN being in April May & June as they come up to the back of Rotto to spawn before returning to the south coast and points beyond Esperance - then across the Tasman and New Zealand + 3 kings islands etc before returning again in 12 months time.

In the past I've had a few show up early on the south coast like February - but I just haven't come across salmon in schools & numbers in the metro / Mandurah area in October before.

It's not like these are small juvenile salmon either, these are the full blown mature 8 or 9 pounders and better (least the one sitting in the freezer is at least that)...

He got a few pics on his camera phone I'll try and get him to download tonight when he gets home from work and post them up. (Edit done!)

SO there you go - salmon off the beach this morning in October in Mandurah. I am beginning to wonder if the worlds weather hasn't gone completely screwey!

Cheers!


Help from Pilbara Pirates?

Hi guys.

Have a character named Dan T Cook,

commin out from the USA to fly fish his way around Oz, who's landed in Sydney about today I think...and going to make his way out West to fish with me down here in Mandurah as part of his intended 5 or 6 weeks fly fishing the WA coast up to Broome - then Darwin...

This is the post he made at my website!

Quote:
G'day WA fisherpersons! Shann suggested I join the forum and start getting to know the community. I will be traveling through WA in mid- to late-October as part of a 2 year, around-the-world fly fishing expedition. My trip is primarily “do-it-yourself” while relying on local fly fishermen (and women!) to suggest places and techniques. I gladly accept offers to fish with local enthusiasts who are kind enough to “show me the ropes” at the local fishing spots. In return, I’ll pick up the beers afterward.

I am currently 2.5 months into the trip (I'm posting this from the Kenai Peninsula in Alaska) and can say that this is already the adventure of a lifetime! The fishing has been incredible, but equally significant are the wonderful, generous and interesting people that I have met along the way. The outpouring of assistance from Aussie rodders has already been overwheming and I can hardly wait to start the Oz portion of the trip.

I welcome all suggestions for places to fish, species to pursue, fishing clubs to consult, people to contact, etc. All stories and photos of this adventure will be posted at flyfishingtheglobe.net (the official expedition website) and excerpts will be posted at www.anglingreport.com.

Thank you and I look forward to meeting everyone!
endquote.

I am hoping that any members here from say Carnarvon north - might be able to point Dan and his fiancee` in the right direction for a few fish when they are your neck of the woods later in the month and thru November.

The guys a laugh a minute and a bit of a daredevil - which you'll see if you check out his website - he's on a 2 year oddysey fly fishing around the world...and a mad keen 4wd offroader as well..

Anyway - if any of you can help him out, it would be much approiciated I'm sure, and likely you'll end up immortalised on his website or in his book or whatever!

This is the last I heard from him a week ago.

Quote:
G'day all!

Thank you for all your recommendations, suggestions and informative tips. We will be arriving in Sydney Oct. 2, and after getting organized, heading to the best fishing Australia has to offer...the WEST Coast!

We are planning on devoting 5-6 weeks to fishing WA. I'll be contacting everyone that has extended an invitation to fish. Thanks again for all the help!

Kind regards,

Dan

I'm hoping a few a you guys in Exmouth & Karratha / Dampier can take him under your wing and show him how to catch Barra's outta the creeks etc (Mouth of Johns Creek @ Pt Sampson?)..which I am sure he would just love!

Also I reckon he should fish the houseboat & flying foam Passage etc

Please check out his website - the video of his Dakar Rally 4wd entry is wicked...and if you can help him out up north (Kimberleys as well if anyones from up that far) then send him a email and invite him for a fish please.

I'd like for him to go away with a good idea what Western Australia has to offer in the way of fishing!

Cheers & many thanks in advance!


Mindarie Boating Tragedy

I truly hope all on the forum are safe and sound. Not what you want to hear at any time, a fellow fisho lost at sea and in my local waters. One confirmed drowned another still missing and two very lucky lads in hospital.

Channel 7 news confirmed none were wearing life jackets.

Must have been a freak wave, though if they were 4nm north west of Mindaria that places them on or abouts the north end of Staggies reef which breaks in anything above 2m and it was closer to 5m out there today.

Thoughts and prayers for the families of those lost at sea.


HMAS Perth Dive Wreck footage

Anyone online right now, there is a school of sambo's or amberkjacks that just moved in to the wreck. I'll post a screen shot soon, here is the link if you want to watch the live action.

Herring around but a few moments ago I saw some big fish move in. Hope they hang around.

http://www.hmasperth.com.au/cam_both.html


Anyone have......

i am looking 4 a copy of seafarer does anyone here utilize this program?


MASSIVE MACK

peeps take a look at the massive mackkie in todays sunday times. got to be close to a state record i was thinging!!


weather report

I am looking for long range weather report for kalbarri, Can any one help

steve


White Super Braid

Saw this online the other day. Has anyone tried the white before or know someone who has? Does the white platypus super brad have a tendancy to get dirty - does it look grubby after it's been used for a while due to it's colour?


Mindarie Night Fishing Expedition - Sign Up

Current Plan :

21st of OCTOBER - Saturday Night - 3pm Mindarie Ramp fishing until around 10pm with a return time of before 11pm.

if conditions aren't ok then:

28th of OCTOBER - Saturday Night, same situation.

Please put down your boat name if you are able to make it if you have any spots available. To continue discussion about the night out, please use Andy's thread as this one is for people who wish to sign up. Hope you can make it.

Cheers,
Adam


Mindarie Night Fishing expedition

A few threads ago it was suggested we organise a Fishwrecked NOR night time Dhuie assault out from Mindarie.

I personally haven't fished at night much at all from my own boat and would love to give it a go with a small flotilla of boats on the water at the same time (for safety reasons).

If anyone is interested in getting such an event organised, post your comments below and we will try and get it to happen over the next month or so (weather permitting).

My suggestion would be to meet up at mindarie ramp about 5-30pm, head out and fish the sunset for snapper on or around Staggies reef, then maybe head to some promising ground for Dhuies etc. Back at the ramp by say 10-30pm for a late evening beer or two.


lures

hey guys neone got ne tips for using lures to catch bream... i use prawn stars and sum japanese brand little minnow lure..


GPRX How to keep GPS Spots Secret?

http://www.asiagis.com.sg/agis2/agis_about_us.asp

We are about to get a new technology rollout in the next 3 months or so that MAY make keeping your GPS waypoints a secret from fishing buddies quite difficult!

Quote:
GprX™, world’s 1st Zero Hardware, Zero Cost location technology.

Thats right - your mobile phone will be trackable - and all it needs is a once off software upgrade!!

Even someone onshore could note down the positions where your mates mobile phone stops still for any length of time - while he has it in his pocket!

There goes all your waypoints!

Not only that - the person can navigate back to those same spots without a gps - just using their mobile phone!

Scarey technology people!

Your boss will be able to see where you are by your mobile phones location...

Course it can have it's good uses too - like keeping a track of your kids (or your missus if she's bangin her boss in work hours!)

Hide a mobile phone in your car and you can track it, if it's stolen! ;o)

Theres a zillion & one uses people haven't even dreamed of yet!

Probably 3 months away - zero hardware & zero cost (after the initial software upgrade for $29) - it will be the next big thing in mobiles...and a lot of the manufacturers are signing MOU's with the company to include it standard into new phones, new sim cards etc etc...

So how do you know - if the guy with you - has a phone thats pinching all your GPS marks???

What about charter boats? Will you be able to take mobile phones 0n Charter boats after this????

Lots of implications here people - just a heads up hey! ;o)

Cheers!

"Piscator, non solum piscator" - "A fisherman, not just a catcher of fish"

http://www.flywest.com.au


Deceitful?

I had an argument, well lets say 'debate' with my parents about a comment that was made in reference to journalists and the articles published in fishing magazines today.
The comment in question was something along the lines of the fact that you can't rely on the credibility of articles written today mainly the fact that pictures might not be as recent as the author makes them out to be and the location is not what it seems.
I rebutted by saying that this is unethical and most fishing journalists have morals and wouldn't be deceitful to their readers. I will stick by that for the time being. It did get me thinking though, how sure can we be that what we are reading is a true recount of what happened and that the pictures are in fact from that particular outing and not from years past?

What do you think? Do you beleive that what fishing journalists write is credible or do you think it depends on each individual write? Do you think someone would go to terms to make things up in order to 'jazz' it up a bit and make it sound more interesting for sales purposes?


MULLOWAY

going mulloway hunting neone intrested? this time i AM going to catch one...bin nearly a week since i gone fishing...so yeah looking for ppl to go fishing for mulloway with ne intrested drop me a line here :)


New penn international

6.3-1 gear ratio and about 15kg of drag

I WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.pennreels.com/01_products/reels/conventional/10_torque/TRQ300.htm

Gully


GT knot

this knot has been bugging me for ages, i have seen it been tied once before but cant remember how it was done...
its for tying your double in your braid to the mono leader, has anyone heard of it before or have a better knots for attaching your leaders than say a standard albright???


Best time for yellowfin tuna

When is the best time to chase yellofin tuna. Wheres the best place to try for them. Out wide or in around rotto.
Thanks


Mako on fly

Check this out - 11ft, 600lb mako on FLY!

riverandreef.com/artman/publish/article_126.shtml

Gully


i am finally finished

finished another two weeks of work. time to fish for the next week. wats the out look for the week any good days ahead.


The Mackerel Islands

couple of us are thinking of heading up next year with a boat, has anyone here made the trip before?

cheers street.

http://www.mackerelislands.com.au/fishing.html


Circle hook's vs "J" hook perfomance in Billfish C&R

SUMMARY REPORT

"A COMPARISON OF CIRCLE HOOK AND "J" HOOK PERFORMANCE IN RECREATIONAL CATCH AND RELEASE FISHERIES FOR BILLFISH"

Eric D. Prince, Mauricio Ortiz, and Arietta Venzelos
National Marine Fisheries Service, Miami, Florida

This study evaluates the performance of circle and comparable size "J" hooks on Atlantic and Pacific sailfish. Terminal gear performances were assessed in terms of fishing success, hook location and bleeding associated with physical hook damage and trauma.

• 360 Pacific sails were caught in Guatemala to assess terminal gear performance: 235 sail were on circle hooks and 125 were on "J" hooks. Circle hooks used on sailfish had hooking percentages that were 1.83 times higher compared to "J" hooks.
• Significantly more sailfish were hooked in the corner of the mount using circle hooks (85%vs27%) whereas significantly more sailfish were deep hooked in the throat and stomach using "J" hooks (46%vs 2'%).
• Only one sailfish was foul hooked using circle hooks while 11 sailfish caught on "J" hooks were foul hooked.
• Sailfish caught on "J" hooks are about 21 times more likely to suffer hook related bleeding than those caught on circle hooks.
The study of the Atlantic Sailfish was primarily and compared the use of variations of offset circle hooks while live baiting for sailfish in S. Florida.
• 75 Atlantic sailfish were used in this study. No differences in catch percentage or bleeding was found between circle hooks with no offset, minor offset (about 4 degrees), or severe offset points (about 15 degrees).
• The percentage of deep hooking in the throat and stomach for circle hooks with severe offset (44%) was comparable to the deep hooking percentage for "J" hooks (46%)
• In general, use of circle hooks resulted in measures of fishing success that were comparable to or higher than "J" hooks.
• Circle hooks minimized deep hooking, foul hooking, and bleeding.
• Thus, the use of circle hooks has considerable potential for promoting the live release of billfish in recreational fisheries.

MORTALITY

• Stocks of Atlantic Sailfish, blue marlin and white marlin have been identified by ICCAT as either over-exploited or fully exploited for more than two decades.
• The most current summaries of stock status for Atlantic sailfish and marlin note the historically high rates of fishing mortality observed in recent years.
• Recent reports indicate that circle hooks used in rod & reel recreational fisheries for striped bass, Chinook salmon and Atlantic bluefin tuna have been shown to significantly reduce deep hooking and thus promote the live release of these species.

RESULTS OF STUDIES

• Circle hooks showed significantly higher hooking percentages compared to "J" hooks.
• Odds ratio tests indicated that on average, circle hooks are 1.83 times more likely to hook a sailfish than a "J" hook.
• Circle hooks are closely associated with hooks in in the corner of the mouth while "J" hooks were closely associated with deep hooking and foul hooking.
• Seventy on of the 125 sailfish caught on "J" hooks were observed bleeding, as compared to 14 of 235 sailfish caught on circle hooks. This difference was highly significant and the Odds ratio test indicated that a sailfish caught on a "J" hook was 20.75 times more likely to bleed compared to one caught on a circle hook.
• Correspondence analysis showed that "J" hooks were highly associated with minor/moderate/severe bleeding, while circle hooks were associated with no bleeding.
• Seventy-five sailfish were caught on circle hooks using live bait in the recreational fishery off South Florida. Conclusion showed that severe offset circle hooks were associated with deep hooking, while minor and no offset hooks were associated with jaw and corner of mouth hook locations.

FISHING SUCCESS

• One of the first concerns in attempting to change the terminal gear in any recreational fishery is that such a change will negatively impact fishing success. This study showed that catch percentages were unaffected by a change in hook type using the different terminal gears during the fishing in Guatemala.
• Sailfish catch percentages were also high for circle hooks fished with live bait off Florida. However, it should be noted that catch percentages and catch rates for circle hooks depended on the novel forehead hook placement used to rig the dead natural baits, as well as a certain amount of training to implement a more passive approach to setting circle hooks.
• Circle hooks fished in the manner described were found to have a higher hooking percentage for sailfish compared to "J" hooks and this result was corroborated with field observations. For example, it was observed that "J" hooks often de-hooked during the fight when sailfish jumped out of water and this was less likely to occur with a circle hook. The curved point of the circle hook appeared to reduce de-hooking under these circumstances.
• Overall, catch percentages, hooking percentages, and catch rates reported in this study were generally comparable to or higher for circle hooks compared to those for "J" hooks. These results are likely to encourage recreational billfishing constituents, who might not otherwise be receptive to changes in their fishing tackle, to consider the use of circle hooks as a terminal gear alternative to "J" hooks.

PHYSICAL INJURIES DUE TO HOOKING

• Hooks found in the jaw hinge or mouth, or fish bleeding from these locations, were not considered life threatening. Conversely, hooks found in the upper palate, throat, pharynx, esophagus, or in the stomach and fish showing lacerations or bleeding from these areas were considered potentially lethal.
• The results of this study clearly indicated that the use of circle hooks can minimize deep hooking and foul hooking in the recreational trolling/pitch bait fisheries for sailfish.
• Several instances were documented where "J" hooks were foul hooked in the eye. If eye injuries result in blindness, then this injury could potentially affect survival because billfish are highly dependent on daytime sight feeding in the upper portions of the water column. Blindness in one eye would negatively impact peripheral vision and could seriously inhibit the ability of these species to feed. Numerous instances were also documented where "J" hook injuries that were not caused by foul hooking could have caused eye damage. In some cases, "J" hooks caused deep lacerations to the upper palate, which, on occasion, affected the occipital orbit and resulted in hemorrhaging in the eye. These injuries are deceptive and are difficult to see in the fish at boat side. In addition, upper palate injuries can also affect the integrity of the cranial cavity by making this area susceptible to possible infection. However, these injuries are not immediately evident upon capture.
• The evaluation of bleeding indicated that significantly more sailfish caught on "J" hooks bled compared to circle hooks. This result may be the single most compelling finding in this study, as sailfish caught on "J" hooks were about 21 times more likely to bleed compared to those caught on circle hooks.
• Bleeding from the gills was found in 10% of the sailfish caught on "J" hooks and 1% of the sailfish caught on circle hooks. However, circle hooks were not found embedded in gill arches or filaments, whereas numerous "J" hooks were found lodged in these structures. After closer observation, it was determined that monofilament frequently became caught behind the gill plates during the fight, regardless of the type of terminal gear. Monofilament coming into contact with the gill structure appeared to irritate the gill filaments and resulted in mostly moderate or minor bleeding. This was non-hook related bleeding.

CONCLUSION

"The current high rate of fishing mortality and depressed stock status of most Atlantic billfish justify development of alternative approaches for reducing hook induced mortality for these species. One such approach would be the modification of terminal gear in order to reduce hook related injuries and trauma experienced during catch and release fishing. This study compared circle hook and similar size "J" hook performance while trolling/pitching dead bait or drifting live bait for billfish-methods often used by anglers targeting these species. Rates of fishing success and hooking percentage were comparable or higher for circle hooks compared to "J" hooks. In addition, use of circle hooks resulted in lower rates of deep hooking, foul hooking, and bleeding compared to "J" hooks. During live bait experiments, severe offset circle hooks (>15 degrees) were associated with increased deep hooking percentages (44%) that were similar to percentages observed for "J" hooks using dead bait (46%). Given the multiple benefits of minimized hook related injury and comparable or improved fishing success and hooking percentages using circle hooks in dead or live bait recreational fisheries for billfish, this terminal gear appears to have potential as a means to promote the live release of these species.

Courtesy of Scott Forbes, EGFC


Top australian lures for SW spinning

Hi guys,
I'm new of this forum and I fish very far away from you. I'm very intersted in top australian lures - here we got River2Sea but I think that there are other AU or Japan brands... please post your favourite selection, topwater and minnow...

thanks a lot, after I will talk about the plugs we use here!

Bye
Antonio


Gamex 2007

Here you go folks - Gamex dates for next year for those who are interested.

17th-24th March

So who is thinking of making the pilgrimage??


spots ppl?

hey guys going out tonite chasing mulloway till about 12ish...ne spots that will have a good chance produce ing the mulloway? i herd mosmans is a go but dont know of ne spots... can ne one inform me plase halp fwends :D


Line counters

I am just wondering if anyone has used these line counters before and would like too know whether they can be easily removed from the reel. Any ideas???
Haqve people used them?
What are there benefits?
Do they get in the way?

Spooled..........

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Navman, Furuno or Lowrance etc

Hi all just wondering if anyone can help me or push me in the direction of a good middle of the range colour sounder. I dont need split GPS because I have a separate chartplotter unit. I only need the sounder. Anything around the $1000 to $1500 mark would be good. Still learning a fair bit about the specs on these machines but my cheap Lowrance has just about had it. I have been looking at a LOwrance X107C but if anyone has any views on this unit or can give me directions that would be much appreciated.

Spooled....