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Risk of fatal shark attack doubles in WA
Submitted by Adam Gallash on Mon, 2012-11-26 16:41BEING attacked by a white shark in the waters off Western Australia is a one in a million chance.
That is the conclusion of a major study of every attack on a human by a white shark in WA in the past two decades. Of the 10 fatalities in that time, the most recent five occurred in just over 12 months.
WA's Department of Fisheries on Monday released the results of the second part of a $1.7 million, three-year study - which comes amid an unprecedented spike in deadly shark attacks in the past year.
The five fatal attacks since September 2011 prompted the government to widen the powers of Department of Fisheries boss Stuart Smith to make a "catch and kill" order.
The research results have busted some myths about who is most likely to be attacked in the water, and when.
Dr Rick Fletcher, who led the study, said while the risk of being attacked by a shark in WA was still very low, it was increasing.
"We are still talking about a very low risk of attack - but over the 20-year period there has been an increase in shark attacks greater than the increase in population," Dr Fletcher said.
The study figures show annual rate of risk of attack has increased from 0.4 per million people in 1995/96 to 1 per million in 2010/11.
The rate for 2011-12 was about double the long-term trend at 2 per million.
The belief dawn and dusk are the most likely times for an attack may prove a fallacy. The research shows deeper and cooler water is more risky, but sharks don't seem to care about the time, or the weather, when they attack.
"The lowest level of risk seems to be when you are swimming close to the coast in water temperatures over 22 degrees - but that does not mean there is no risk," Dr Fletcher said.
"If you go out thinking that if you avoid dusk and dawn you are at a substantially lower risk, then that is not what the data suggested.
"There was only one shark attack within 30m of the mainland coast, and there was no correlation with wind or rain or overcast conditions."
Snorkellers and divers have been the targets of the most attacks in WA in the past 20 years, followed by surfers. Swimmers are the least likely to be killed or injured despite being most prevalent in the water.
Mr Smith said the increased powers to order a shark be caught and killed were nothing to do with a "cull", listing specific dangers that would need to be evident for an order to be made.
Surfer Ben Linden, 24, was fatally mauled in July some 180km north of Perth, three months after 33-year-old diver Peter Kurmann was killed by a shark off the southwest coast.
Last year, bodyboarder Kyle Burden, 21, died near Bunker Bay, Bryn Martin, 64, was taken while swimming off Cottesloe, and American George Thomas Wainwright, 32, died after an attack while scuba diving off Rottnest Island.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/national/risk-of-fatal-shark-attack-doubles-in-wa/story-e6frfku9-1226524462724#ixzz2DJehPL5N
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Giant sharks shock for water police
Submitted by Adam Gallash on Mon, 2012-11-26 16:32http://www.news.com.au/national/giant-sharks-shock-for-water-police/story-fndo4bst-1226524338597
WATER police who rushed to investigate reports of an overturned boat with people in the water off a popular Sydney beach instead discovered two immense great white sharks feeding on the remains of a whale.
The largest of the sharks was estimated to be six metres long, and the smaller shark "just'' 4.5 metres long.
The sharks were feeding on the floating blubber only a few hundred metres off Whale Beach on Sydney's northern beaches on Saturday afternoon.
"The bigger of the two sharks was the biggest thing apart from a full grown humpback I've ever seen in the water,'' one of the Broken Bay water police officers said.
"It was about six metres long, it came up beside our boat many times and that's a reliable estimate of its size, it was a very very big shark.
"They were really getting stuck into the whale blubber, it was about three square metres at the start but a lot smaller by the time we left them.''
The sharks were last seen just a few hundred metres off the southern end of Whale Beach on dusk.

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help im stuck!
Submitted by parry123 on Mon, 2012-11-26 14:34hey fellas im stuck between the 13ft sensor and the 12ft sensor. i want to pair one of these with me emblem pro but im unsure on witch rod to pair it with im looking to cast baits for mulloway but also metals for tailor. i usshally use 12ft rods for lures anway but i doubt that it will be able to cast a scalie and star sinker. unlike the 13ft witch seems like a good rod for big baits but to big for lures. what do you guys think i should go for?
thanks parry
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Are the fads out yet?
Submitted by pgreen1 on Mon, 2012-11-26 14:24Heard they were supposed to be out last week. Can anyone confirm?
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Flathead tackle
Submitted by Bigfisher on Mon, 2012-11-26 11:30Hi guys,
long time reader and thought i should get involved after taking advantage of all the advice.
I have been targeting flathead in the shallows recently just throwing around hard lures. Just wondering if its worth putting on a heavier trace as a I lost a big fish on the weekend after it engulfed the lure. running 4lb mainline.
thanks in advance
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Kimberley Boat Ramps
Submitted by jdavies_99 on Mon, 2012-11-26 10:25Hi Guys,
Just planning a trip out to the Kimberleys in Easter and hoping to get some knowledge.
We are running a 2006 23ft Fibreglass walkaround and planning on spending a few nights abroad amongst the Buccaneer Archipelago.
I understand we can launch from Derby but I was just wondering if there were any other launch options. Getting to the Horizontal falls from Derby is quite a mission so was just wondering if there were any other ramps along the top end and if so what is the condition of the road getting to the ramps.
I was told we could launch from cape levique however it would be a mission getting the boat there.
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Molloy island Augusta - Whats around in December
Submitted by deanganfield on Mon, 2012-11-26 09:40Im heading down to Molloy island for a week in mid december, Ive never been there before, im taking my 4.75 bluefinn, does anyone know much about this time of year.
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North Mole Sunday Night
Submitted by Fisher Kid on Mon, 2012-11-26 07:29Went down to the north mole from 6;20-7;40, casting twistys for Bonito and tailor, had two hits, none landed. Saw a smalll whiting landed, and the slimey/scalie/yellowtail baitfish sizes 10cm-20cm max were also around, helped a guy land a 80cm+ blacktip shark, bit through the hooks while i grabbed it by the tail and almost bit me so i dropeed it, went down the cracks and swam away :)
1 guy also has a big run on his 12ft rod, bit through his wire.
other than that just the usual buckets full of undersized whiting, skippy etc.
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Hamilton Island
Submitted by Slap on Sun, 2012-11-25 22:38G'Day lads & ladies
I am fortunate enough to have a family trip from NOR Perth, east to Hamilton Island for a week. We will be spending 5 days on board a 50ft Cat w/tender, followed by a couple of days on the island.
Just wondering whether anyone had any experiences regarding fishing amongst the islands? (NB: I have done a forum search & read the material) I am hoping to get some updated information on their particular trip, what to expect & perhaps areas/species to keep an eye out for.
If we don't get any luck onboard the Cat which we skipper, we have organised to board a fishing charter for one of the days we are on the island. The trip itself is not a 'fishing' trip, but a family trip that myself and my brother will take every opportunity to spin around in the tender looking for fish.
Cheers guys.
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Fishinwa on today at 4:30 channel 7
Submitted by ricey on Sun, 2012-11-25 16:22Looking forward to it.
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PE3 rod
Submitted by neville hood on Sun, 2012-11-25 14:43Gday fellas
I am in the market for a good quality rod to complement my arsenal in the pe3 range that can threw lures from 20 gm to 80 gm and can be used land based but also on my 6.2m boat. i am thinking of something in the range of 7 foot 8 to 8 foot 4, and can be matched up with either a sw5000 or a bio6000. i already have a barra flats 8 foot with a c14 4000 and 30 lb tuffline for lures up to 30gm. i was thinking along the lines of a dorado mo83 f or something similar. cheers neville
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A few nice pilbara BARRA !!!
Submitted by krabman on Sun, 2012-11-25 14:03landed a few good barra,55cm,82cm,85,86cm,great day up the creek!!!
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Shimano Tyrnos or Fin-nor Marquesa?
Submitted by JackoW on Sun, 2012-11-25 13:30Does anyone have any opinions or info on the Tyrnos or marquesa reels for bottom bouncing?
cheers
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where to go beach 4wding ?
Submitted by fishing94 on Sun, 2012-11-25 12:27so finally got my licence and have just got my first car
was just wondering where a good place would be to go beach 4wding
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Artificial reef
Submitted by Em801 on Sun, 2012-11-25 12:06Hey guys was supposed to be doing a BBQ today but have been let down by pretty much everyone so I thought bollox to it I'll Put the boat in and go for a fish anyone think much of that artificial reef in Warnbro sound never fished it but keen to try
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Where to buy fresh tailor or herring?
Submitted by dkonig82 on Sun, 2012-11-25 11:55Chasing a store (preferably south of river) to buy fresh/never been frozen tailor.
Anyone know anywhere?
IDeally somewhere open late nights on Thursday!
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Biscayne oil rig - Lancelin
Submitted by gone fishin on Sun, 2012-11-25 11:25hi all just wondering if any of you have fished this oil rig wreck of lancelin and is it worth a go and best location to set out from.
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Super trawlers
Submitted by pale ale on Sun, 2012-11-25 09:30http://www.icij.org/project/looting-seas-iii/free-all-decimates-fish-stocks-southern-pacific
“It’s going fast,” Pineda said. “We’ve got to fish harder before it’s all gone.” Asked what he would leave to his son, he shrugged: “He’ll have to find something else.”
Pretty piss poor attitude these greedy bastards have 
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monday??
Submitted by fisho-ron on Sun, 2012-11-25 09:19mondays looking good atm, got no work booked in so i might have to go for a fish me thinks!!!
anyone else heading out??
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how weedy is it at secret harbour?
Submitted by Midor on Sun, 2012-11-25 07:27if anyones been down to secret harbour, or anywhere close by, how weedy is it?
think theres a chance of some nice whiting?
thanks guys :)
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Mullas down deep, what rigs?
Submitted by dkonig82 on Sat, 2012-11-24 19:20Going to have a crack at some mulloway at some deep marks I have.
Jigs will be the first attempt, but failing that will probably resort to some dirty bait. If I were to send down a tailor fillet, what are people's thoughts on a paternoster with a snelled set of 3 to hold the fillet? Or any other suggestions?
Am a newbie to chasing these things and pretty keen for some success this week so any tips appreciated!
Dan
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land based fishing tomorrow metro area
Submitted by tomharders247 on Sat, 2012-11-24 19:13is it worth fishing tomorrow like at the moles, cottesloe, challenger etc.... is there anything biting.
because we have just just a storm and its ment to be sorta flat 7 knts southlys tomorrow...
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what tackle for tailor off the rocks?
Submitted by just_fishin on Sat, 2012-11-24 18:54new to the fishing scene and really want to get into it..
i want to throw mullies under floats and maybe lures, what cast weight will i need?
is a 2500 reel with 4kg drag and 10lb braid enough?
is a 2-6kg rod enough or is it too light?
i know how shit this is for a first post but cheers in advance!
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Crabbin and trollin for flatties this morn
Submitted by tim-o on Sat, 2012-11-24 16:27Went for a quick sesh at mozzies as the forecast (wasnt so bad afterall grrr) wasnt ideal for a tuna troll on the 3 mile so I opted to drop the nets and try and troll up some flatties. After a drop we set off for a troll and before long Brock claimed my rod when it hooked up. Had a decent little run then surfaced was a 40cm flatty and Brock's first. Went and pulled the pots and ended up with a few bigguns but lots of littlies. The woos didnt want to hold his fish after I educated him of the spikes lol. Attatched a pretty crappy vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLyp28Xm_Iw&feature=youtu.be
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HELP! Johnson street boat ramp
Submitted by tim-o on Sat, 2012-11-24 06:06Spur of the moment decision this morning, but hoping to get advise on this little boat ramp. Iv got a 15ft aly runabout and will use the mrs' crv, will it be ok at low tide there to launch and retrieve? Never been there thats all just need the heads up, certainly dont want to have an issue retrieving.

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What 4wd to buy?
Submitted by oz74 on Fri, 2012-11-23 20:52Hi all,
looking for any input on experiences with 4wd as I'm in the market for a new car.
I have had a 200 series petrol Landcruiser for the last couple of years and it has been awesome but before I blindly just replace it with another, would be good to hear people suggestions.
It will need at least a 3 tonne towing rating and will tow the boat anywhere from the metro area and up to Coral Bay. Apart from towing the boat, it will just be on-road driving around the metro area.
availability may be a big factor as I'd like to get a car within the next couple of weeks.
cheers
brett
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Preston beach
Submitted by trav32 on Fri, 2012-11-23 18:54Just wondering what sort of weather conditions would I need to deploy my kayak off of Preston beach? Do big swells run at this beach? I heard the bouvards reef run close in this spot and so guessing good fish will be in close here?
Cheers!
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todays(friday) quick trip
Submitted by fisho-ron on Fri, 2012-11-23 18:01i could not wait any longer, i had to get out and scratch the itch!!
with the weather not looking the best my 2 boys and myself headed out for some fun anyhow and i was right it was sloopy as hell.
it might look ok in the pics, but it was sloppy!! very steep waves hitting the tub spraying water all over us, hard to stand without holding onto something.
we were hoping to get onto some good sambos from the same spot as last time, only small tackers coming up for the first hour and then they slowly started to get bigger.
not the big boys we got last time, but big enough for some fun.
we got a couple of triple hookups which was madness with us ducking and weaving around each other to land them all, then it was my turn to shine with my favorite jig....jm fallings in chrome....this thing was getting 4 hookups to the boys 1.
troy and blake could not belive i was getting smashed instantly on the bottom and they were getting nothing, then i had a biggen decide he wanted my jig more than me, i felt it scrap againts the rocks and bye bye it went.(oceanside better order some more)
we ended up calling it a day early as they wemt off the bite, but we still managed to get 20+ fish, with 3 larger ones lost on the rocks
brought a couple home for my dogs, they love raw fish!!
some pics of the biggest for the day
cheers ron
blakes

troys

mine

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Whats Biting hot in Geographe bay atm
Submitted by 6130jason on Fri, 2012-11-23 17:21Hey guys , just got my new tub 4.3mtr stacer just wondering whats on the bite in geo bay atm ?
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