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Powderfinger Concert

The finger are on Youtube now with a home concert. Bernard still has it!!


Virtual footy fans

Collingwood want to use virtual footy fans at their games....Lets get the  comments going should be fun


Lowarance sounder help

got a new boat and running the elite 5 every time im out the sounder just does this has anyone else had problems like this any suggestions?


Chicago Bulls - The Last Dance

 If you have even considered watching this series on Netlix - do it!

Watched the final episode last night and it is seriously one of the best shows I have ever watched. I'm not really a basketball fan but this was awesome. Michael Jordan is amazing to watch and as good as he was (and as arrogant) he still listened when told he had to change the focus away from him to win a championship. Brilliant stuff!


The Alkimos

 Been a very long time between posts here, but I figured there would be a few old salts and some not so old salts on the page that would have some great memories or experiences with the Alkimos. Chucked together a quick video of the Life and Loss of the Alkimos the other day after diving on whats left of the wreck. Paid a small price to Henry but he was all good last Thursday, video goes for a little while (8minutes) the dive stuff is the last few minutes. Love hearing a few old stories if anyone has them.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-5l0JZTi_Y


Chilling out and new species I'd needed

 Finished work at midday today and decided to go and chill out for the rest of the day down by the water and of cause had to have a line in as well. 

Along with my usual cash of gardies I also got a few other species which I don't know and of cause they are still swimming . Was a bit of fun getting the 3 un known as they all put up a great fight on light gear. 


New tow vehicle

Got a phone call from Sandy a few days ago asking me what sort of 4x4 I like . Thinking practically I told her which one so the search began . After looking at a number of them on line and in person (not me ) Sandy found a good one . Rang me again and said happy birthday.  Sandy and my mum collect it tomorrow but w hi knows when I will get to drive it .

 


After life Ricky Gervais - Fishing related

 Who has watched After Life with Ricky Gervais on Netflix?

 

Yep its a bit morbid but fucking funny....

 

Frost I haven't cried that much since the 2015 GF - Thats the fishing part


Covid creation and other tasks

Didn't totally waste my time whilst observing isolation protocols, mounted a 1.2 metre saw fish saw on a piece of feature banksia and also started repainting the interior of the house.   The latter is not something I enjoy.

NB. The sawfish saw is around fifty years old, got caught in a pro Barra fishermen's net out of Derby and regretfully died but I thought I should do it justice 


Another day another gar

 Another day with little work so what else is there to do . Got a good catch of bait and food . Them long toms have a nasty bite and they are bloody quick to turn on you 


Piesse wooden structure boats

 Anyone heard of these piesse boats supposedly built in Fremantle  anyone had any experience with wooden. Structure boats


New sounder advice for new boat

 Gday guys,

 

well I've settled on a Caribbean 2300 as the new boat. Just looking at fit out at the moment.

have most of it sorted, except for sounder and navigation.

i have only had old type sounders, never had any of the new type MFD.

im looking for opinions on best product vs cost. I doubt I will use the sounder to anywhere near its abilities.

Im looking for a large screen so 12-16"

I want something easy to use, good picture of the bottom up to 150m depth, easy to use nav, and will incorporate auto pilot.

Im having a yammie 300 with electronic gauges, so don't think I will be using any engine data on it.

im not tied to any brand, and look forward to hearing from you blokes on what you think would suit?

ive also noticed that the Furuno MFD are able to display on a phone or tablet also, could be handy to have at the back of the boat.

 

cheers

 

BigbadDhu


Canning river

Hi everyone. Hope all is well, can anyone tell me how far up the canning river you can drive a trailer boat up? I have been down the swan up 2 the womans prison all the way to fremantle many many times but never really been to far up the canning... when does it become to shallow or narrow? Would like a new scenery just to cruise down. Cheers


Cheap boats in USA again soon?

 I've been listening to a shitload of podcasts lately, mostly financial stuff and i'm thinking there might again be a shitload of cheap boats around in the states in years to come.

 

I know when our dollar went to parity a few years back lots of lads from here bought boats over there, I cant help but think that could happen again in the near future.

 

33,000,000 have filed for unemployment insurance since March - That is staggerring I reckon and no doubt what they will recieve is probably stuff all if they meet the criteria!!

 

The US has been printing cash at a massive rate ( no longer print notes as its digital but basically create more currency ), I heard over a 60 day period they created 2.5 trillon bucks which works out to be $500,000 per second!!!

 

Surely the path they are on over there and the amount of currency they are creating the US dollar could crash...

 

On this particluar podcast they spoke of Germany post WW1 and the actual printing of their own currency which totally fucked it...

 

Devalued it so much they reckon there were people literally pushing wheelbarrows full of cash around but they were more worried about getting the wheel barrow stolen than the pile of cash inside it...

 

It was apparently cheaper to use cash notes as wall paper than to buy wall paper itself, I've gone a bit off topic here but they are examples of what happens when you print money and devalue their currency!!

 

Unless their fearless ( i now think he's fucked come the election as he has totally lost it now ) leader can make america great again then i'm thinking cheap boats!!

 

Sorry that was a little long winded but you get my drift...

 

Boon


Travel bans

 Would be interested to know how the coastal towns are handling this intrastate bans i could only imagine kalbarri  coral bay  exmouth business must be hurting badly can't believe the government has hung them out to dry for another month. 


Converting shed from gable to skillion

 Fellas,

 

With a couple of youngsters wanting to go out in the boat all the time I think i've now found a decent excuse to get a new ( second hand ) craft across the line with the missus.

 

I'm on half an acre so reasonable amount of room but my shed height isn't high enough to get anything decent underneath the gutters.

 

I'm seriously considering ripping the gable roof off and throwing on a skillion ( like the house - should've done to start with )...

 

House is about 5 years old and my shed was only the second one on the street at the time i built it... Its 16 x 8m under roof with 12 x 8 enclosed... 

 

The neighbours weren't keen on me going the height i wanted and I didnt want to ruffle any feathers so now i've ended up with a good size shed but one of which i can't get a decent boat under...

 

Pretty drastic I know but has anyone here ripped the gable off a shed and thrown a skillion lid on??

 

I figure If i have a 5deg pitch I'll get it pretty high without pissing the neighbours off and should be able to get the new boat under...


Freighting boat from Sydney cost?

 Has anyone had a boat trucked east to west recently?

 

Looking at a 20fter on a trailer so roll on roll off Sydney to Perth.

 

Wondering how much Freight cost approximately would be.

 

 


Killing time

 Its one of them days . Few deliveries to do in the morning and the a truck to unload in the arvo. Not much can be planned on days like these so off to kill some time down near the harbor.

Wast much realy on the bite but did get a couple of firsts  . First Queenie small but it still counts . Also managed to get 2 of the black spot gars which fight much harder than t he standard ones . 

Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this monster of a manta Ray barrel rolling right in front of me only about 30 mtrs from shore , managed to get one pic of it (Not the best) while rolling then got a short video of it before it took off. Awesome to see . Its that large white patch in the middle 


Ryobi Generator Repairs.

 G'day 

 

I have a Ryobi 2000W generator, bought it a few years ago and used it very little. Has been left sitting there for 2 years and i cant get her started again - I know not great to not start it for such a long time. 

 

Anyone on here know anyone who can repair these? Not sure how much of a repair it would need, probably something fairly simple. 

 

Thanks, 

 

 


Aker in the news

 I have been reading the news articles lately on my phone trying to get a footy fix and I can't believe the rubbish that Ajer is dribbling from whining about being labelled not a team player to how Barry Hall ruined his career and cost him 2.5 million dollars, what a joke even when he is trying to defend himself and tell us that he is a team player he only uses the word I. 


Anyone in the wood trade? Or collects feature wood?

 Hi everyone, 

 

I was wondering whether there are any forum members that are either into some home woodwork? Or in the wood craft trade industry?

 

I have just recently finished a home made fishing trophy piece, and want a nice bit of feature wood / plaque to mount it on. Nothing huge, only something like 20cm x 20cm square. Something cool like an off cut bit of feature Jarrah or even Blackbutt etc eoukd be ideal. 
 

if any of you work with that sort of thing either as a job or a hobby, and can guide me where I can get something to suit the above description, it would be appreciated.

many thanks, Scano 


Another WC player fall from grace

 Bloody sad story and I can't see old mate coming back from this one.

 

How can you end up so fucked.

 

Another victim of the West Coast culture.

 

Poor bugger, how many more are going to fall off the perch or feel the need for a rear door pounding before there is an enquiry.


Another small shark

 Got to go for a fish again on Sunday despite the wind . Loads of big long toms about which were taking the bait before anything else could. Biggest I got went around 800 but they are fun on light gear. 

Managed another small shark on the light stuff this one a bit bigger than my first. It's amazing the size 10 hook didn't break with the fight they put up


Junkyard dog


Fire season please take care!

Take care this fire season, my neighbour lost his sheds today. Seemingly the other neighbour that lives elsewhere came down and lit a few fires the night before. I gather they stayed the night to make sure all fires were out. One must have sparked back up around 9am this morning and jumped the fence. I was driving past and saw the fire right near the shed, raced in to put it out but it had caught fire to the hay. I managed to get his tractor out but all 50 bales of hay were lost along with his neighbours shed that had $50,000 worth of electrical equipment in it. Called 000 and grabbed my fire unit from home. Didn't make it back in time to stop it before it got to second shed. Was just lucky the paddock was under irrigation and didn't go further. Make sure your fires are out before going to bed or leaving property.


Bait run

 When you got nothing else to do why not gather some bait . Got a small shark on a size 10 hook meant for the gardies 


My first land based shark.

 Fishing for bait and got this one. Fun on gardie gear 


still money around for boats...........

As a CC fan the PMY24 is a pretty cool boat - given the current situation i thought it surprising that their is money being thrown around, but maybe i am just jealous i didnt get it for the price i wanted ! :-) :-)

The one below on was on an online auction - you couldnt view it and the engine (2005 verado) is not running and unknown hours and no key, the starboard gunnel had the cleat ripped out and had taken a fair bit of the topside gunnel with it - to say the boat was in poor condition would be an understatement - it also has no trailer
it sold for 46750 +gst +11% buyers premium = $57081!!!
add 10k for a 2nd hand trailer and probably the same for a second hand 4 stroke and a couple of grand in fibreglass repairs and anything else that may be required and your are somewhere around 80K for a 15 year old boat.....
What recession! :-)


footy hubs mmumm

if this happens there will be some new dealers needed


think of coronavirus as a test run: Australian military leaders warn we must prepare for worse

this might have some positives for australia if we take heed

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/coronavirus/think-of-coronavirus-as-a-test-run-australian-military-leaders-warn-we-must-prepare-for-worse/ar-BB13kM0Z?ocid=spartanntp
think of coronavirus as a test run: Australian military leaders warn we must prepare for worse

By Sean Rubinsztein-Dunlop and Kyle Taylor 3 hrs ago

© Provided by ABC Health There are potential shortages much worse than toilet paper if global supply chains were to shut down completely. (ABC News: Freya Michie)
As Australia was swept by panic buying and medical shortages this year, the scenes were eerily familiar for one of the country's most senior military planners.
In a secret meeting only a year earlier, the Defence Department's director of preparedness Cheryl Durrant and a group of Australian industry leaders had predicted a strikingly similar scenario.
"We predicted the unpredictable," says Ms Durrant, who left the department in January.
"We knew the problems, we knew this might be coming, we knew that various things needed to be done."
The ABC has obtained a confidential report prepared for Defence just a year before the COVID-19 outbreak, which provides a forecast of Australia's vulnerabilities in a global crisis.
Ms Durrant is speaking out about the predictions after ending her 30-year Defence career because she believes it is her duty to convince Australia to prepare for an increasingly unstable world.
"I've looked at the global situation," she says. "It's no use festering in a bunker somewhere in Canberra — it's a time of crisis."
She says the risks to Australia are snowballing, with climate change, US-China tensions and the rise of nationalist governments among the key threats to global stability.
The report, which Ms Durrant commissioned to plan for the growing threats, lays out a timeline of how Australian essential services would collapse within just three months of a crisis worse than the COVID-19 threat, which would put a halt to global trade.
"If you think of the COVID crisis as a test run, it's really a critical thing for us to learn from this," she said.
"The lesson is expect the unexpected."
Preparing for the worst
As the Defence Department's director of preparedness and mobilisation, Ms Durrant planned for horror scenarios that would keep most Australians up at night.
Last year, she commissioned a landmark review of Defence planning — the first so-called mobilisation review since the Cold War — to prepare for what the department concluded was an increasingly likely global crisis.
"We saw three main possibilities of that happening: the increasing and escalating effects of climate change and natural disasters; a global power conflict, probably between America and China; and finally a pandemic — one with a much greater death rate than what we're seeing with the COVID crisis," Ms Durrant said.
"The review looked at the big issues, like if we had to go to war, do we have enough fuel? Do we have enough energy?
"Can the national supply chains and our national infrastructure support Defence in a war or other crisis?"
To answer her questions, Ms Durrant gathered 17 senior engineers from Australia's key industries to war-game whether Australia's supplies could sustain the nation through a prolonged crisis, where global supply chains were severely disrupted.

"We asked, if we had basically a halt on global supply — a couple of steps more demanding than we're seeing in the current crisis — what would run out in one week, two weeks, one month or three months?" she said.
"We wanted to understand what was the thing we were most vulnerable in."
The experts were selected by their industry peak body, Engineers Australia, from sectors including health care, electricity, fuel, water, mining and telecommunications.
"Out of this thought experiment, what the group looked at across each of their sectors was what would this mean for their particular sector," Engineers Australia CEO Dr Bronwyn Evans said.
"They identified that because we're part of the global supply chain, when the ability for that to continue to function [broke down], you'd start to get shortages, you'd run out of things in areas, for example, like the water supply, like telecommunications."
The report's forecasts
The final report by Engineers Australia, obtained by the ABC, laid out a chilling timeline of how Australia's essential services would break down in an unspecified global crisis.
While the group didn't look at a pandemic specifically, some of the predictions were eerily accurate.
According to the report, "the workshop delivered the overarching advice that, in the scenario provided, Australia would suffer massive upheaval within one week due to job losses, social unease and [public and industrial] hoarding."
With at least 90 per cent of Australia's specialist medical supplies imported, the report found specialist medicines "may be exhausted within days", with "severe repercussions for public health".
Within a fortnight, with a restriction of imported medical equipment, "health care would be degraded".
For Ms Durrant, the report was evidence Australian governments could have been better prepared when the fallout from the pandemic hit the nation's hospitals, supermarkets and Centrelink queues.
"Our preparedness planning was probably a D-plus or a C-minus, but our response was much better," she said.
"In order to have that response that is really sharp out of the blocks, we weren't quite there in the first couple of weeks.
"I was bemoaning the fact that even though we'd done the work and had seen what might happen, we hadn't yet been able to get the buy-in to do the further planning and actually act on that information."
Australia's fragile position
Australian industries and governments are now scrambling to prepare in case more supply chains come under threat in the global economic fallout from coronavirus.
The pandemic is causing widespread disruptions to shipping and air freight, and wreaking havoc on suppliers across Europe, America and Asia.
For nearly a decade, former Air Force deputy chief John Blackburn has been sounding the alarm, warning Australia is vulnerable to global forces because of its low stocks of essential supplies.
The retired air-vice marshal is attracting a chorus of supporters from the military and Federal Parliament, who are urging Prime Minister Scott Morrison to establish a national strategy to make Australia more resilient to global shocks.
"The economic fallout from COVID is putting us into uncharted territory," says Mr Blackburn.
"We could be talking about a failure of the trading system in areas — that is a nightmare we don't want to go to and requires very close cooperation between governments.
He says successive Australian governments have failed to consider the risks of an overwhelming reliance on global trade, particularly given our geographic isolation.
"Almost all our trade — 98 per cent of our trade, imports and exports — depends upon foreign-owned shipping systems, so we are actually in a pretty fragile position."
Report says water systems could fail within a week
The Engineers Australia report predicts a disastrous domino effect for Australia if trade is severely disrupted.
According to the report, the first casualty after health care would be sanitation, creating a further risk of disease.
It says water treatment and sewage systems could start to fail within a week as crucial imported chemicals run out.
"That surprised us, that was something we hadn't expected," Ms Durrant said.
"We found that like our medical supplies, most of the chemicals were sourced offshore and we had only a limited supply.
"And also like our medical supplies, they're complex chemical compounds — chemicals that require the raw product to be shipped somewhere, made into a secondary product, and then coming into Australia to be used in the water supply system."
The risk of disruptions has been a wake-up call for the industry.
Water suppliers and treatment companies are coordinating with national authorities, as they try to trace their supply chains, identify bottlenecks, stockpile more chemicals and confront unprecedented competition for shipping.
At its factory in south-east Melbourne, water treatment company Hydrochem began hoarding chemicals not long after the outbreak in Wuhan.
"When we first got wind of what was happening in China, we were very aware of how that might play out," Hydrochem chief executive Nick Duncan said.
The company uses chemicals from China and other countries to treat water and prevent disease in crucial sites across Australia, including hospitals, building developments, meat processing plants, shopping centres and mining facilities.
"The total percentage [of chemicals] from overseas is probably in the range of maybe 20 or 30 per cent," he said.
"At the moment, the delays in shipping have meant that what would normally come in two months is taking four months. We're basically doubling the advanced stock that we're ordering from those countries.
"Most of the time, if something's unavailable, then we can find something else that will do. But it might be more expensive. It might not be as efficient."
A month ago, the industry's peak body wrote to the National COVID-19 Coordination Commission to warn that potential shortages and other "high-risk" supply chain issues could require government assistance.
"It's right at the top of the watching brief for all the water utilities, just to make sure that the chemicals are there," says Adam Lovell, the executive director of the Water Services Association of Australia.
"When you get down to some of the more critical or nuanced chemicals that are used in treatment, many water utilities will be making sure they've got contingency plans.
"All of those are currently in stock but there could be a situation that they may run low, especially if they're made overseas."
Fuel for thought
There's no clearer sign of how seriously the Federal Government is taking the risks to Australia than its decision last week to relent to years of pressure and invest in a stockpile of fuel.
According to Energy Minister Angus Taylor, the pandemic is shifting the Government's thinking on market intervention.
"COVID-19 has heightened our sense of awareness of what is an essential good or service," Mr Taylor said.
"There are critical items where we need to ensure we've got strong control over the supply chain."
The Federal Government has been warned since 2011 that Australia's fuel reserves are insufficient to sustain the country through a crisis.
According to the Defence-commissioned report, Australia only has enough liquid fuel to last just over two months if global supplies are cut off.
A shortage of fuel would have a devastating impact on all Australian industries, including trucking — and with no way to move them, Australia's plentiful food supplies would begin to run out in the first month of the crisis.
It is a sobering thought for Gavin Stevenson, whose Sydney delivery business Fruitman Sam is busier than ever because of the coronavirus lockdown.
Driving across the city to hand-deliver boxes of seasonal fruit and vegetables from the markets, he's also reaping the benefits of low demand for diesel fuel, which is considerably cheaper.
"You probably take it for granted that you can just go to a bowser and fill up, like it's your lifeline," he said.
"I can't walk these boxes to places."
The Federal Government will take advantage of the record low prices, spending $94 million on a US stockpile of fuel in an attempt to keep food suppliers like Fruitman Sam moving in a crisis — but it has nowhere in Australia to store it.
"We do want to make sure we have enough fuel in the event of an extreme disruption," Mr Taylor said.
"The great challenge at the moment is the world is close to running out of storage for fuel because of the demand drops due to COVID-19.
"Right now in Australia, our storages are full or close to full, but over time we want to make sure there is [more] storage closer to home.
"This is hugely important whether you're a farmer, manufacturer, a commuter, a trade.
"That's why this is such an important initiative to ensure Australia is safe, is secure, can control our own destiny and have real national sovereignty."
The Defence-commissioned report warned that Australia's problems would go far beyond fuel.
It predicted that within three months, the nation as we know it would cease to function. Australia would be racked by social unrest and widespread unemployment.
Essential services including electricity and telecommunications would be falling apart because the industries rely on imported spare parts.
Within the Liberal Party, there are hopes among some that the Government's new focus on supply chains and sovereignty will translate to broader government policy.
Before the pandemic, Mr Morrison was already facing a push from two former military men on his backbench, retired army Major-General Jim Molan and former Special Air Services soldier Andrew Hastie, for a new national security strategy to make Australia more self-sufficient.
"Right now, a lot of our supply chain is hyper-concentrated in China itself," chair of the parliamentary security and intelligence committee Andrew Hastie said.
"We don't want to ever be in a position where we're reliant upon another country for our security or our prosperity."
"We do not want to be strategically or economically coerced."
To be prepared for any threat, Ms Durrant is urging the nation to invest in resilience, starting with a series of steps: a comprehensive tally of Australia's essential supplies, detailed models of our supply chains, and decisions on which capabilities need to be established domestically.
"It's critical Australia doesn't only respond to the COVID crisis but prepares for the unexpected," says Ms Durrant, who has joined John Blackburn's think-tank, the Institute for Integrated Economic Research.
"We need to understand the supply chain vulnerabilities, we need to make choices about what is critical for the functioning of Australian society and economy and business, and we need to invest in the processes and skillsets and the data systems that enable you to do that.
"Australia is at an interesting fork in the road where it goes on from here. If we take the attitude, 'She'll be right, go back to business as usual, bounce back', I think we're going to find ourselves not as well prepared for what happens next."